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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2016, 04:43:07 PM »
a little stunning worker to show off  ;)

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2016, 05:32:16 PM »
This is my Stevie  :luv:  She is very similar to your pup.
She is 100% worker.  She is now 8 years old and one of the best girls ever.  Very biddable, kind and a joy to live with.  I hope you have as much enjoyment from your girl as I have had from my two  :luv: :luv:





She was very sleepy in the first photo  ;) :005:

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2016, 05:58:46 PM »
Incidentally there are breeders crossing working and show - what's called dual purpose- so you could get the best of both worlds.

Personally I don't think you should be crossing the lines.  I can't think what a show type could bring to the working line or vice versa  :huh: :huh:   And as to the best of both worlds  :huh:  with luck you could do but you could end up with the worst of both types.  Sorry for being blunt but serious reputable breeders wouldn't mix the lines. 
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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2016, 06:11:38 PM »
Mmm...I'm not sure there is a worst of both types. There is one huge advantage and that is a wider range of mates- hence genetic diversity- hence lower CoI - hence health, happiness and longer life. But of course many breeders may be in denial about these. :-\ A pity because the majority of spaniels live in pet homes.

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2016, 09:17:31 PM »
No decent breeder is crossing the lines Daw - the mix is no good for working or showing so if people do its merely for the pet market.
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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2016, 09:43:22 PM »
No decent breeder is crossing the lines Daw - the mix is no good for working or showing so if people do its merely for the pet market.

I would guess that 90% or more of cocker owners neither show or work their dogs.

Though I completely understand why people would be against the idea of mixing the lines, there is nothing to say that a worker/show cross won't make a fantastic pet for the average owner.

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2016, 01:12:27 PM »
and there is a worst of both lines as well as you can get health problems you don't want or need for your dog - don't be fooled into thinking because a dog is a cross they won't have health problems as you don't know where the genes will fall as it doesn't necessarily mean they will be diluted (I have a sprocker from working lines on both sides who has had to have a cataract op age 2y old)

also some may think they are getting a show type then end up with a working dog with high prey/scent/working drive and can't cope or have the time to train

and at the end of the day a crossbreed is a crossbreed
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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2016, 03:20:49 PM »
Here is a show Cocker as a puppy:



and at 2-years he looks like this:



You can see how the ears seem to be fixed lower down. Actually its the skull which gradually domes up.

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 04:09:42 PM »
Heres Bonnie as a Pup and Fully Grown.




 
Bonnie as you can see goes more toward the working side,though  Her Sire is a Stud Show Cocker.

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 04:26:09 PM »
Bonnie's beautiful!

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2016, 12:40:18 PM »
Incidentally there are breeders crossing working and show - what's called dual purpose- so you could get the best of both worlds.

Personally I don't think you should be crossing the lines.  I can't think what a show type could bring to the working line or vice versa  :huh: :huh:   And as to the best of both worlds  :huh:  with luck you could do but you could end up with the worst of both types.  Sorry for being blunt but serious reputable breeders wouldn't mix the lines.
I agree the pure  show strain is getting very hard to get these days as a lot of breeders breed for colour and often use worker or part workers and its a shame
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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2016, 12:59:57 PM »
I think we nailed it here. They are quite hard to tell apart when puppies.
But after about 18 months the show face appears.

You can work a show dog. Mine can blind-retrieve by scent, follow a whistle and loves agility.
But his legs are heavy and he's not quick.

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Re: Working or Show Advice
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2016, 02:09:17 PM »
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