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Title: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 01:34:57 PM
Hi

Was going to start agility with Indie after christmas but have had an email to say I can start now on Saturdays.   I'm a bit worried now that we'll get shown up as she can be a bit mad and scatty  :005:

What should she be good at before we go, is there anything I can practice this week or do they not expect much when you first start  :-\

Any advice would be appreciated - I'm starting to have second thoughts - panic setting in that we'll look stupid  :shades:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: stuffster on November 04, 2008, 01:38:47 PM
Ooh lucky you. Ive still got 5 months to go til Purdey is old enough to start.

I'm not speaking from experience but I would imagine they would expect plenty of antics on the first few lessons. If you watch agility on the TV, or at a dog show etc, even the very experienced dogs will suddenly change their mind and refuse to perform from time to time, so it must happen all the time with beginner dogs.

Dont give up til you have at least tried it - I hear it is very addictive!!!

Good luck and dont forget to let us all know how it goes!
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 01:45:46 PM
Ooh lucky you. Ive still got 5 months to go til Purdey is old enough to start.

I'm not speaking from experience but I would imagine they would expect plenty of antics on the first few lessons. If you watch agility on the TV, or at a dog show etc, even the very experienced dogs will suddenly change their mind and refuse to perform from time to time, so it must happen all the time with beginner dogs.

Dont give up til you have at least tried it - I hear it is very addictive!!!

Good luck and dont forget to let us all know how it goes!

I can't give up as its a course in 8 week blocks so can't even go once and then not go again as would be a waste of money - think thats where my panic is.  Having said that its the same trainer we did obedience with so at least she knows us.   I will stop being silly and just go, Indie's told me she wants to go anyway  :005:     Need to have a search to find out what commands I need to learn. 
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Beth on November 04, 2008, 02:11:18 PM
Go for it, i was really impressed at Jarvis' natural ability when we had a go at agility at a doggy fun day. :D (And as all those who have met him will confirm, he is no angel ph34r :005:)
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Max X 2 on November 04, 2008, 02:33:55 PM
Lots of treats (maybe a clicker if you use one  :-\), sensible running shoes & a sense of humour  :005:
You'll be just fine, IMO all cockers love agility.  I'm sure they won't be expecting much at a beginners class, they'll probably just get Indie used to the different pieces of equipment & maybe on lead for part of it.
Just go & enjoy it but be warned........It becomes addictive  :005:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 03:39:12 PM
Lots of treats (maybe a clicker if you use one  :-\), sensible running shoes & a sense of humour  :005:
You'll be just fine, IMO all cockers love agility.  I'm sure they won't be expecting much at a beginners class, they'll probably just get Indie used to the different pieces of equipment & maybe on lead for part of it.
Just go & enjoy it but be warned........It becomes addictive  :005:

Just hope I can keep up with her  ;)  Might help me lose a few pounds. 
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Max X 2 on November 04, 2008, 03:53:24 PM
Lots of treats (maybe a clicker if you use one  :-\), sensible running shoes & a sense of humour  :005:
You'll be just fine, IMO all cockers love agility.  I'm sure they won't be expecting much at a beginners class, they'll probably just get Indie used to the different pieces of equipment & maybe on lead for part of it.
Just go & enjoy it but be warned........It becomes addictive  :005:

Just hope I can keep up with her  ;)  Might help me lose a few pounds. 

I can't keep up with Max but unless told otherwise he'll just go over what's infront of him anyway  :005: & I hate to tell you this but I've certainly not lost any weight since we started :(
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: stuffster on November 04, 2008, 04:09:10 PM

Just hope I can keep up with her  ;)  Might help me lose a few pounds. 

I can't keep up with Max but unless told otherwise he'll just go over what's infront of him anyway  :005: & I hate to tell you this but I've certainly not lost any weight since we started :(

Damn - thats one of my main incentives for doing it! Mind you, Id probably need a mars bar or 3 to help me recover after running round like a loon!  :005:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 04:30:01 PM
Lots of treats (maybe a clicker if you use one  :-\), sensible running shoes & a sense of humour  :005:
You'll be just fine, IMO all cockers love agility.  I'm sure they won't be expecting much at a beginners class, they'll probably just get Indie used to the different pieces of equipment & maybe on lead for part of it.
Just go & enjoy it but be warned........It becomes addictive  :005:

Just hope I can keep up with her  ;)  Might help me lose a few pounds. 

I can't keep up with Max but unless told otherwise he'll just go over what's infront of him anyway  :005: & I hate to tell you this but I've certainly not lost any weight since we started :(

I was hoping to - it sounds like more running round than I'm used to. 
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Ori1 on November 04, 2008, 06:05:02 PM
I'm sure you will be fine.

I run an agility club and when we hold beginner courses we don't expect that the owners or dogs will know anything... so don't worry!!!!!!!

As long as you have decent basic obedience you will be FINE!!!!!!!!

The only thing I find with training cockers (workers mainly) is that it is better not to stick to one reward e.g food or one toy e.g ball - their attention span is soooooooooooooooo short  :luv: :005: :luv:- a mix of everthing keeps them focussed - but it will depend on your little angel - you will know what's best as a reward.

we get our beginners to teach their dog a 'go on' command, a touch command and left and right - as well as building up their confidence on each piece of equipment. But it depends on the course your trainer is running. I can pm you the steps for the above commands if you want - happy to help - but it maybe worth seeing what your trainer is going to teach you - and then practice those commands in between sessions (if you can).

Cockers always enjoy it - and I'm sure you will be great too!!!!!!

Keep us all posted

 :luv:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Oliver21508 on November 04, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
Can't wait to start with Ollie in May. Got a long wait yet. :005: Good Luck!!!
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: lolajays on November 04, 2008, 07:08:49 PM
The most important thing to master is sit and wait for agility!!!! There isnt a lot else you can practice before hand just enjoy it! I cant wait to start with Alice in April!
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Ori1 on November 04, 2008, 07:18:50 PM
I agree with the sit and wait thing - but it has to be in th context of can they sit and wait whilst there is something really exciting either happening or about to happen? Sometimes even the best behaved dog goes to pot when they anticipate something really exciting is about to happen - you can definitely practice this - when they need to wait for a treat or toy they can see -  whilst still sitting and waiting...

good luck,

 :luv:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Karma on November 04, 2008, 07:25:34 PM


That's quite good news - we hope to start agility with Honey (prob in the New Year when they restart weekday sessions), but I always make her sit and wait at the beginning of her walk, while I go on ahead....  :D
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Ori1 on November 04, 2008, 07:49:29 PM
That is good training - as they are learning to control themselves - when they don't really want to - they wanna go MAD!!!!!! Hehehehehehe :005:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Clover on November 04, 2008, 07:56:26 PM
Willow and I did a little six week course in the summer, we had general obedience  :005: which was all that was needed. Our group was very relaxed and fun, and only one collie in sight.  No one came already prepared for obedience, it really did start from the beginning, leads on most of the time.  We all had good fun, probably at my expense some of the time  :005:, we managed to come last position on the very last session, we had a little competition between two groups, little madam, wouldn't lay down on table, we managed to finish a good minute after the rest  :005:  Relax and enjoy.   ps. where roughly is the agility based ? , as I cannot find indoor/winter courses around here.
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Ori1 on November 04, 2008, 08:06:03 PM
Are you anywhere near melton mowbray???? EMDAC run training...or have you tried looking on agility.net? They list clubs on there...this might help you?????
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Clover on November 04, 2008, 08:14:05 PM
Yes, well about 20 miles. Will have a look, thanks.
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 08:28:42 PM
Willow and I did a little six week course in the summer, we had general obedience  :005: which was all that was needed. Our group was very relaxed and fun, and only one collie in sight.  No one came already prepared for obedience, it really did start from the beginning, leads on most of the time.  We all had good fun, probably at my expense some of the time  :005:, we managed to come last position on the very last session, we had a little competition between two groups, little madam, wouldn't lay down on table, we managed to finish a good minute after the rest  :005:  Relax and enjoy.   ps. where roughly is the agility based ? , as I cannot find indoor/winter courses around here.

I'm going to one in Crowland, Lincs and it will be in a barn so still cold but not wet  :005:   There was one I was going to contact run by the woman who whose dog won Crufts this year but it looks like its in a field and its so wet and cold at the moment I didn't fancy it.   I'll see how I get on with this one as its run by the trainer who I did my second puppy training course with and she was brilliant at teaching me so much so hoping we'll pick it up quickly.   We're only going for fun anyway, not for competition, I've had to wait a while til I'm sure she has healed inside from being spayed and am looking forward to starting some sort of training with her again. 

I always practice the sit and wait as we do that at roadsides but to make her move, I just say come on so hoping I can use the same words.   I do this in the kitchen as well as I'm heading for the door but we've not cracked that yet as when I'm out of site, she comes a looking.   :005:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Clover on November 04, 2008, 08:36:00 PM
Definitely need one inside at this time of year. Even one of our sessions was a wet Wednesday in the summer, could I get her to do 'down' >:D  nope, she wasn't getting her belly wet. Will you still be going to the COL meet ? or does this clash ?
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 08:38:44 PM
Definitely need one inside. Even one of our sessions was a wet Wednesday in the summer, could I get her to do 'down' >:D  nope, she wasn't getting her belly wet. Will you still be going to the COL meet ? or does this clash ?

Oooh, good point, can't remember the time of the meet - off to have a look.

Definitely still going on the meet - can't miss that as Indie loves them.    Agility is either 10.00 am or 11.00 am so can still get there at 1.00 p.m., we might both be knackered though   :D
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Clover on November 04, 2008, 08:49:02 PM
That's good then. It's the first we've been able to make.
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 08:50:32 PM
That's good then. It's the first we've been able to make.

Great, watermead was a great meet last time, I really liked the place and think there were about 18 cockers last time  :D
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Cob-Web on November 04, 2008, 09:52:49 PM
I always practice the sit and wait as we do that at roadsides but to make her move, I just say come on so hoping I can use the same words.   I do this in the kitchen as well as I'm heading for the door but we've not cracked that yet as when I'm out of site, she comes a looking.   :005:

Try making her sit and wait for her dinner; once you have that mastered, a wait at the start of an agility course is a lot easier to master  ;)
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: elaine.e on November 04, 2008, 10:43:56 PM
I always practice the sit and wait as we do that at roadsides but to make her move, I just say come on so hoping I can use the same words.   I do this in the kitchen as well as I'm heading for the door but we've not cracked that yet as when I'm out of site, she comes a looking.   :005:

Try making her sit and wait for her dinner; once you have that mastered, a wait at the start of an agility course is a lot easier to master  ;)

I'm the wrong side of 50, overweight and unfit! So making sure William can do a really good sit and wait at the start of an agility course is one of the most important things in our agility training. I need a head start on him! :005:
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Jeanette on November 04, 2008, 10:57:07 PM
I always practice the sit and wait as we do that at roadsides but to make her move, I just say come on so hoping I can use the same words.   I do this in the kitchen as well as I'm heading for the door but we've not cracked that yet as when I'm out of site, she comes a looking.   :005:

Try making her sit and wait for her dinner; once you have that mastered, a wait at the start of an agility course is a lot easier to master  ;)

She does that already so that sounds quite promising.   :D
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Workingcocker on November 06, 2008, 12:28:32 PM
My advice would be

Bring some really nice treats Liver cake or something equally smelly and appealing so that sniffing the arena isnt an option.

Keep everything positive

Train the sit stay at the beginning.

Most of all have fun

xxxxx
Title: Re: Agility advice
Post by: Freckle on November 12, 2008, 05:08:39 PM
Sorry to dispoint you - but all agility does is make you realise how unfit you are - not how fit you can become.

Or perhaps it is just me!   >:(