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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: ziglu on October 13, 2014, 10:13:25 AM
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Hi all, yesterday I took Lulu (4 year old orange roan cocker) to our local park and as usual she jumped out the car barking and excited because I had her ball ready to play which she did. But about thirty minuets in instead of running like a greyhound she started to just stroll, and since then she has been whining and pacing about, even through the night when I tried to comfort her she wanted to just sit at the bottom of the garden. She also tries to lay down and then stops so she either sits or paces. She would normally jump on my lap or go upstairs like a rocket.But she just looks at both as though they were aliens and the paces up and down again. I took her to the vet who checked her legs feet and spine and said everything seems fine. She then gave her an injection for pain relief and I have to take her back tomorrow. Does anyone have any ideas please.
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Sorry to hear Lulu isn't herself.
My first thought was pain in her spine or muscle spasm but if she has been checked there maybe not!
Did the vet check her tummy at all? Is she bowing at all - by this I mean going down on her front legs? Does she struggle to get up ? One thought I had was tummy pain, maybe pancreatitis ?
Keep an eye on her and if she causes you more concern go straight back to the vet today.
Hope she feels better soon.
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Thanks rubybella for you reply, Lulu has no trouble getting up from the sitting position or laid down position (when she manages to lay down)
But mainly she is sitting or pacing. Her appetite is as usual very good and no problems with her wee or poo!!
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If no better tomorrow and no sign of limping, no temp, and toiletting is all fine I would probably be going down the route of a spinal xray!
I don't want to worry you and it may not be related at all, but the reason I say this is that a friends dog had a disc problem which presented itself in a similar manner.
Hope you get to the bottom of the problem.
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sending Lulu :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
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No idea what it can be but if it is a spinal problem only an MRI or dye injection can give a definitive answer. Did the vet do the proprioception test?
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Update on Lulu is tomorrow morning she is going for an x ray on her spine, might know more then. It doesn't help matters that she gets very agitated when she goes to the vets. :'(
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Sending over calm and positive thoughts for Lulu tomorrow at the Vets, will be thinking of you both :luv: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
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Even if the disc is a problem, which it may not be, often it can be corrected with painkillers and crate rest. Not every case ends in an operation. Try not to worry too much, I know it is easier said than done but worst case scenario is an op and there are many wonderful spinal experts out there.
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You must be beside yourself with worry, we'll keep all fingers and paws crossed here for you both :bigarmhug:
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Thinking of you and trusting tomorrow will bring good news.
Julie
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I hope you get more answers tomorrow and that Lulu isn't too stressed by the whole experience.
Based on my friends experience I would recommend that if it is an issue with the spine or discs I would be pushing for an immediate referral to a specialist. You will need to be prepared for costs involved though as an MRI is likely too.
I will be thinking about Lulu tomorrow.
Take care.
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I have sent you a pm chick. Seeing as Lylas original experience (and subsequent disc leaks) are etched on my brain, if I can help, I will. I agree that if it is a spinal problem then you need a referral but not all disc leaks require surgery. I really hope that it is something less serious for both your sakes. :bigarmhug:
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I hope she's ok - I'm trying to find an article on ball chasing/fetching which I saw online a couple of weeks ago but am failing miserably so I'll precis it from memory!
It's very likely she injured herself fetching her ball - the motion of running flat out and then braking, twisting and turning to get the ball is not a natural movement for a dog and they do place massive stresses on their joints and can cause many injuries. Retrieving in water is better and less stress on them, or restrict to only a few ball throws per walk.
It's much better for them to 'find' things and slow down and use their nose rather than chasing a ball.
I hope she's ok and has just twisted something that is easily fixed :luv:
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Really hope Lulu is better soon. Could it be her tail?
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Update on Lulu is, not much showed up on X ray this morning so she has been referred to a veterinary hospital for an MRI scan. So I took her there this afternoon where she will stay overnight and have a scan tomorrow.:'( We could have brought her home tonight and take her to the hospital tomorrow but at least she should get some strong pain killers whilst she is there. I couldn't bear to hear her cry in pain again tomorrow like she did this morning.
But again when we got to the hospital this afternoon the vet did all the pulling and prodding that he could possibly do as well as tapping for reflex and he said everything seems ok. All I know is that the house is a very quite place without Lulu Xxx
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Oh dear, poor Lulu and poor you!
Really hope the MRI can give you some more information. It is so awful to hear them in pain and not be able to help. I think you made the best decision to leave her at the hospital because at least she is in the right place to keep her as comfortable as possible.
Take care, I can imagine how worried you must be.
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Poor Lulu :016:think, she is definitely in the right place.i hope the scan goes well tomorrow and she is back home with you very soon :luv: :bigarmhug:
Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
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I hope the scan reveals the problem and that it can be resolved by rest and careful management :bigarmhug:
William had a MRI scan 5 years ago after 3 episodes of relatively mild back pain over a period of months made me concerned that it might be something major. His turned out to be lumbosacral disc damage but luckily he didn't need surgery and has continued to lead a normal life, although we'd already stopped doing agility as a precautionary measure and I never throw balls for him and restrict his access to stairs, jumping in and out of vehicles etc. But he's still active, fit and lively at 10 years old despite having protruding discs.
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Really hope you get some answers. It is not nice when they are not at home :bigarmhug: Positive thoughts for Lulu.
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Any news on Lulu ?
I have been thinking about you today.
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Sending Lulu postive healing thoughts and lots of :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
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Update on Lulu is, I picked her up this evening from the Vet Hospital and the MRI scans show nothing apart from a bruised or inflamed (white patch) on a muscle in the area of back and calf. So we have just got to carry on with the Metacam and see if it improves. Although he did say it has been known for a grass seed to get that far in!! Thanks for all the support from the forum and all my well wishes Lulu Xxx
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I am so relieved for you and Lulu that it isn't anything serious. After my friend's tragic experience I would hate anyone else to go through the same thing.
Hope Lulu feels 100% soon.
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Relieved for you both, hope rest and anti-inflammatories do the trick.
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Fingers crossed for you both xx
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So pleased for you. A spinal op is not without risks (although Lyla dashes around like a loon now) and anything that avoids that is good! :blink:
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So glad for both of you, gentle hugs to Lulu
Val
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That is a good update, please give Lulu a gentle squidge from us :luv: :luv:
Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
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Pleased to hear that the MRI scan didn't reveal anything nasty :D
Hopefully the rest and the anti-inflammatories will do the trick and get her back to normal.
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How is she doing now? I hope there has been some improvement for her now. Thinking of you both, give her a gentle hug from me :bigarmhug:
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Thanks for all your enquiries about Lulu, she is a lot more comfortable now, she still has a few days left of medicine to take. I think she is getting bored now just resting. I think we are all a lot happier now it's just like a stab to the heart when something is hurting our little babies. Xxx
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That sounds better news, hope she keeps improving :luv:
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Pleased to hear that. Sounds like the rest and medication is doing the trick. :luv: Good news.
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Great news :003: hope she will soon be back to her normal bouncy self.
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Hi all, update on Lulu is that she seems to be free from pain. the only problem now is that her poops are very watery and sometimes with a small amout of blood. She is on Metacam so I have stopped giving it her from today.
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I am so glad to hear that Lulu's pain has eased. :luv: With a bit of luck, the meds will be causing the runny bum, and that will clear up too. Will watch out for an update.