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Cocker Specific Discussion => General Cocker Spaniel Discussion => Topic started by: Michele on November 26, 2002, 05:34:31 PM
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The subject of chicken wings has been covered in various threads on the board & so I wasn't sure where to put my post.........so I started a new one ;D
Anyway just wanted to say for the first time ever I tried my 4 with a chicken wing each today(about 1/2 an hour ago). I was wary and not least a little concerned about the bones, but they ate them with enthusiasm but not greedily (makes a change for my lot ;)) and have all settled down for a nap.
I wanted them to try them to see if its helps with keeping their teeth clean. I'll let you know ;D
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I feed my boys chicken wings each day - they get one each and they love them ;D They let me know when they're overdue ;D ;D
I've had no problems other than them trying to eat them too quickly and one did once get stuck in Jaspers throat. Consequently - I would never leave them unattended. Otherwsie - I find them great. They also seem to boost the appetite too, which if you have a picky eater may be helpful.
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Interesting - goes against everything I was always 'taught', which is that you should keep chicken away from dogs because of the danger of bones. Dont really know what I'd do if they got a bone stuck in their throat, I think mine would bite me if I tried the Heimlich manoevre :D
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Mike
The danger with chicken bones is the cooked ones. They become very brittle when cooked and can splinter and cause severe damage - even death to the dog. Raw chicken bones are fine as they are softer.
hth
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Hi Michelle :)
Well done. I fed my Golden Retriever on Iams most of his life, but he was a very fussy eater, he was always suffering with his stomach and had bad breath. But I never connected the two.
When I got my Cocker pup 6 weeks ago the breeder was feeding on the BARF diet (Bones and Raw Food) I was very wary of it. But she had fed the pups with bones and they loved them. So tried Alfie with a chicken wing after about a week as I needed to pluck up courage first. :-
He loved it and took his time chewing away on it, with me watching him like a hawk. :)Anyway he now has one a day and really looks forward to it. I also bought the book 'Give Your Dog A Bone' which is a very interesting read. It states that RAW bones are fine as that is what dogs and wolves eat in the wild, but cooked bones make them splinter and must NEVER be fed.
I'm hoping Alfie won't have bad breath like Monty did, and so far he hasn't suffered with the runs.!
Hope all goes well for you too.
Lou. ;D
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Where do you get chicken wings? Do they still have feathers or flesh on them? I quite like the sound of them as a healthy treat but wouldn't know where to get them.
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Just have a look in your local supermarket Fiona - I can usually get packs of 12 in our Safeways (not a feather to be seen :)) in the poultry section. I often stock up on packs they are reducing because the sell-by date is near & freeze them. If you want to buy in bulk, AMP (http://www.prizechoice.co.uk (http://www.prizechoice.co.uk)) supply them or you could ask at your local butchers (if you have one)
Jane
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Where do you get chicken wings? Do they still have feathers or flesh on them? I quite like the sound of them as a healthy treat but wouldn't know where to get them.
Hi Fiona,
I bought mine at Asda from the chilled cabinet. They were £1.24 for 14, so a very cheap treat ;D No they don't have the feathers on them but they do have the flesh. There the ones that you would buy if you were going to do Bar B Q wings & ribs etc.
hth
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Thanks Jane and Michele :)
I never go to the meat or poultry sections in the supermarket but I'll make a special trip down those aisles.
Got a feeling that Poppy will be in 7th heaven when she finds a chicken wing in her bowl ;D
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Very interesting.... Hope I'm not appearing dumb here... are you all talking JUST the raw bone of the chicken wing or flesh included ???
Fran.
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We're talking the whole thing Fran - bone, flesh, skin, the lot ;D
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This sounds quite interesting, the last raw bone I gave to Cooper he ate the lot and then promptly threw it up but then it was a fairly big bone from a friendly butcher. (This prompted me to boil future ones - something I will no longer be doing I can assure you) Maybe I should try the chicken wings as they are a lot smaller.
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Glad you've brought this up Michelle as I've been having an argument with the otherhalf as he says you shouldn't give them Chicken Wings, and I've said that everybody does and it is really good for them etc ;D
I'm going to print this out so he can see that I'm not putting them at any risk ....
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Derryn
I think your hubby is probably thinking of the cooked variety too. We tend to generalise and say Chicken bones without qualifying the relevance of cooked or raw. I thought the same too until earlier this year when someone explained the difference.
It's logical really - how many wild animals die from chicken bones - other than those they pinch from the bin ;)
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I decided to buy my two chicken wings today - Brook turned his nose up at his so Mr Bin ate that one ;) but Vegas ate his. i expected it to be gobbled up in 30 seconds flat but he took a good five minutes. Don't think he knew what to do with it in the beginning but once I heard the sound of crunching bones, I had to leave him to it :P I'll give him one a day in place of his rask and see how he gets on.
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Well I took the plunge too, and Cooper was very glad, he really enjoyed it once he worked out that he could eat it and I wasn't going to tell him off for nicking it! ;D
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Well my lot have really taken to these. The only worry I have now is with Neneh gobbling hers down as fast as possible :-. They're not having them every day, only as an occasional treat :D
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sorry to be a bit thick here but these wings are just raw (and, I assume, defrosted! ;D) straight from the fridge? ???
Like others have said, I did not know there was a difference in cooked and raw chicken bones...
two things -
* Can you use drumsticks as well - or are the bones too thick?
* anyone know if this would be suitable for cats as well?
Tilly will think all her Christmasses have come at once!
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Steve - they must only ever be fed raw - never cooked. You can give them from the freezer BUT only after they've had a good few minutes to lose the edge so your dogs lips don't stick to them and get freezer burn. You could run the tap over them to quickly defrost the outside too.
You can also use drumsticks if you want but bear in mind that they are bigger so the dog will be getting more raw protein so you'll need to balance that out in the fiet.
I don't see why you shouldn't be able to give them to cats - after all they eat birds and mice that they catch.
As with all things like this - don't leave the cat or the dog unattended - just in case they get a bone stuck.
I can almost guarantee that you will suddenly become the bestest person in the whole world though ;D
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sorry to sound a bit thick :- - but is is OK to try Monty with one of these bones?- he's 20 weeks and quite partial to the bottom of my back door at the moment.....maybe if he has a chicken wing a day he'll decide that door woods not that nice after all??? ???
He's never eaten a 'real' bone before...so it won't give him the trots will it :-X
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Jen - it might give him a runny tummy while he gets used to it. I would only give him a chicken wing and perhaps not everyday while he's so young. Also adjust his meals to compensate too. Watchhim like a hawk while he learns what to do with it and to make sure he doesn't get it stuck. You could break a wing into two and give him half a day.
Bear in mind my boys are fully grown up - I hesitate to use the word mature as allsorts of dreamy images spring to mind that would be shattered the second I looked at them ;D They get one wing each each day.
hth
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do you think I should wait? - Is he really too young??? runny tummy sounds a bit dodgy in a little dog who's not quite house trained?? -
I think I'd rather he stuck to the door ;)
Maybe he's too young....I'd have a heart attack if it got stuck in his throat (I'm rubbish at anything like that!)....oh dear...you've put me off now ???
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aaw Jen. If you are not confident - don't do it. Waiting till he's older won't do him any harm.
If you wanted to give him a bone get one of those from the pet shop that are very white and stuffed - can't rememebr what they are called - but that should be safe and not upset his tum. It should help occupy him and hopefully save the door;D
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Well, after reading this thread I though I'd treat Clunie (see grooming section for name change explanation!) to some chicken wings.
SHE HATED THEM!
I even tried pulling some meat off and feeding it to her, and she wouldn't have any of it - but she did wolf down the pedigree chum I offered her!
Is my dog just weird? Should I keep trying or just take it that she's a spoilt little madam (in the nicest possible way!)
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Not all dogs like raw meat - especially if they are used to tinned food. It's nothing to worry about. But you might find that if you offer them again that she gets a liking for them ;) the texture is different to cooked meat and so might surprise them. I never had a secionds thought with mine. One sniff and they'd gone ;D :o ;D
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Logan, Brook wouldn't touch his either ??? And he is a canine dustbin ;D Maybe its in their breeding ;)
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Well I finally took the plunge tonight not with chicken wings though as I couldn't find any but I gave the boys some Drumsticks and Sebastian and Douglas thought they were great. Bart on the other hand turned his nose up and didn't want one, so Sebastian had two ........
Dessie and two very happy Boys ..... ;D
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I tried mine with them after speaking to the lady who grooms my cocker. She feeds the BARF diet with no problems but Bella got a bad case of the runs. Has anyone else experienced this (the dog that is!!) and how long did it last for. I gave up as I didn't think it was doing her much good. Any tips would be great. ;D
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Hi all......
Have not been around for quite awhile so hello to you all again and hope you are all well. I finally got around to giving Suzie raw chicken wings and she ABSOLUTELY LOVES THEM to the point she has turned her nose up at her breakfast in the morning and sits infront of the fridge tapping it with her paw and looking at me with a very longing look. Is one a day O.K ?
Fran.
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I've been looking for these for Phoebe since seeing this thread sometime ago. Had no luck at the butchers.
I'll try the supermarket next.
By the way - Pigs ears are great. Tried Phoebe on them last week and she loves them. They don't even have chance to become soggy as she wolves them down :o
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Amber becomes quite feral with her chicken wings, a wild little beastie. Billy, on the other hand, won't even look at one and turns his head to one side when I hold one out.... fussy so and so :)
I've been meaning to try them on lamb or beef ribs - has anyone else done so?
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I've been looking for these for Phoebe since seeing this thread sometime ago. Had no luck at the butchers.
I'll try the supermarket next.
By the way - Pigs ears are great. Tried Phoebe on them last week and she loves them. They don't even have chance to become soggy as she wolves them down
No our butchers don't do them either - or our local Co-op so I have to get mine from Asda which is 27 miles away :( and numpty head here forgot when she was in there last week :-. They are quite good value though only £1.24 for 20 so I normally get them & freeze them.
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Possibly a dumb question, but what are the benefits of giving them "chicken" bones and not any others.
I feed Bonnie on Bakers which agrees with her, but if I try her on this, I think her toilet training would be put to the test ;D
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From what I can gather, the benefits of giving dogs chicken wings (as opposed to only bones) is because they are chewy and sinewy and, therefore, clean the dog's teeth. I don't know that they're better than other bones (apart from pork which I've been told is a no-no)... ???
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I was wondering about the risk in salmonella? ???
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Bearing in mind that i only started my two on a barf diet 2 and a half weeks ago - so don't know that much - but from what i understand salmonella is not a risk - just think of all the germs a dog could pick up just on their daily walk from trying titbits they find, plus a dog's stomach/bowels etc are better able to cope.
Must say i'm already seeing a marked improvement in both their coats and finn is only 10 wks old but his puppy coat is now gleaming. Finn loves his chicken wings as soon as he sees the pack he starts whining, ebbie on the other hand wouldn't eat them - they both have one a day, ebbie would just take it to bed, lay on it and guard for all she was worth, however - the last two days - she's actually realised she can eat them ;D and loves them.
Nikki xxx
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Read the article about chicken wings 2 days ago and thought I would try my two boys on them for their teeth, They LOVED them. At first Alfie didn't have a clue and we had to hold it for him to eat and he took his time, not so with archie crunch, crunch and gone.
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:D Hi All
I gave Bailey - he is 5 months old - his first ever chicken wing yesterday. First he did not know what to do with it but then started to lick it. After a few moments he started to chew it. I was worried that he'll get a bone stuck in his throat and what would I do then? He managed ok and ate it very quickly. Did he really have time to chew the bones or did he just swallow them? I do not know but he loved them.
Today he had two wings. My husband got some beef bones from the butcher's for free and gave one to Bailey last week. The next day Bailey had the runs. I checked the bones and they had heaps of fat in them! Maybe it was the fat that upset his tummy. I have read the book 'Give your dog a bone' and I'm sure that it said that pork bones are very good for dogs.
The trouble is that after chewing a bone Bailey smells like butcher's shop and I have to wash him. When he eats the chicken wings does he get the salmonella bacteria in his fur and will I get it from there? :? I more a less have to disinfect the whole kitchen afterwards.
Bailey & Tuuli
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