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Offline padfoot

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Black cocker spaniel 8 mths old Waterford, Ireland
« on: May 03, 2004, 10:59:35 AM »
The Irish kennels that the rescue I work with have a partnership with have a black female cocker spaniel at the moment. She looks like a full show cocker, beautiful dog. She is around 8 months old. However, she has some issues, seems quite grumpy and needs an understanding home with experience of dogs (preferably cockers).
She is good with other dogs but she can't be rehomed with children (teenagers would probably be okay).
The lady who runs the rescue is working with her to try and overcome some of her problems, she went in to the rescue in a real state, so may have been mistreated  :(
She will be up for rehoming in a few weeks when she has been vaccinated, spayed and properly assessed. Mary prefers to rehome to the UK but only through the rescue I work with and not privately.
If anyone is interested in this beautiful girl please email me and I will send a photograph and more information.                    

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2004, 11:57:39 AM »
She sounds lovely and I hope she finds a good home.

I would offer but as you know I have my wonderful Jake now who we all adore!!!!!

I was a bit apprehensive about how a rescue cocker would work out because 9 times out of 10 they have issues because of the way they have been treated.  Its almost as if Jake knows we love him and want him and he's such a good lad.                    

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2004, 12:40:37 PM »
I'm so pleased it has all worked out for you with jake  :D He's a stunner.
I may have a couple of foster cockers here over the next few weeks, the way things are going I'll be opening up a new cocker rescue  :lol:  Everytime anyone hears of one they tell me because they know I will somehow make the space if it's a cocker  :lol:
Current foster dog is a big burly Bernese cross...foster JRT left yesterday and I said I had space for no more (already have a cocker due over soon).But then I was told the dangerous news that there is a FOUR MONTH old cocker or cocker cross in rescue needing foster. Beats me how people could take on a dog and be tired of it within a month but it's a very sad fact that this happens :cry:                    

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2004, 04:11:11 PM »
only 8 months old someone here come get her :D quick before shes gone

Ah padfoot  these cockers go so quick i was lookin on the irish forum then i went back to show someone a black 6 month old cocker and gone  :shock:  it must have been within 2 hours hehe im glad thou ,

hopefuly the same will go for the cockers your talking about , i know what you mean i get told about cockers all over the place find them a home and more then likely a few hours before they get snatched then i end up telling them the bad news  :( ,
I know on the forum before there were talks of a cocker website i think this would be a good idea as there is yet to be a british cocker rescue webpage.

Poor old ollie , and pasty and a few others dont seem to move from the rescue centers :( im feeling really sorry for them                    

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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2004, 04:47:17 PM »
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But then I was told the dangerous news that there is a FOUR MONTH old cocker or cocker cross in rescue needing foster. Beats me how people could take on a dog and be tired of it within a month but it's a very sad fact that this happens :cry:


Cocker Rescue had to take in a 9 week old puppy recently - it beggars belief doesn't it?? And no the breeder did not want to know, as seems to be the case with most young Cockers that end up in rescue :(                    
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2004, 06:35:39 PM »
It's very sad Jane, 9 weeks old and no home  :shock:
From what I've heard about the four month old little girl, she is a joy. She is friendly, sweet-natured and beautiful, cast aside for acting like a puppy! I just can't get my head around it  :(
We are hoping that the black pup will improve when she has some time to settle and some tlc, apparently she was very badly matted and underweight.
It's very sad that many people think only mongrels end up in rescue, people can't believe that Toby was just six months when he was taken to a rescue centre because all he needed was some love and attention and he settled down wonderfully.
I suspect most of these abandoned pups originate from puppy farms and backyard breeders. There seem to be lots of abandoned cocker pups in Ireland, where there is still a huge puppy farm problem.
It's a shame more people don't realise the responsibility and work involved in taking on a puppy. One of the rescue cockers in Ireland has been through at least six different homes, it's hardly surprising he finds it hard to trust anyone now  :cry:

Nicole, I don't think this little girl will be rehomed very quickly as she has special needs so it's important to find a suitable home for her. The worst scenario would be someone taking her on because she is so beautiful and then bouncing her back into rescue again  :(
This is the case for many cockers in Ireland. They are rehomed very easily but people seem to expect a perfect little lapdog..which we all know cockers are not  :lol:
Hopefully she can work through some of her problems with Mary.                    

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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2004, 07:30:12 PM »
well if you want you can  pm me with the problems i may have someone who contacted me a while ago i had to let them down on the golden boy in the irish forum although they were at the time willing to try and help the dog threw the problems he has so we can only try .  they were looking at other dogs when i last spoke to them ,so not sure if they have there place filled yet .

yes its a shame all dogs get rehomed or just dumpted in places like the pound  :( i agree its much worse when even the breeder wont take the dog back :( all i can think is they just wanted to breed for cash , most normal people wouldent let there puppys be sent to the pound knowing they wont know what happens . ah i could be here all day moaning about how dogs are treated  :oops:                    

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2004, 12:18:25 AM »
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Cocker Rescue had to take in a 9 week old puppy recently - it beggars belief doesn't it?? And no the breeder did not want to know, as seems to be the case with most young Cockers that end up in rescue :(


 :( Oh my goodness me, thats very sad! 9 weeks old :cry: Flabberghasted here :x                    


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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2004, 08:53:25 AM »
And Dasha in West Wales seems to be taking in quite a few these days as well.

Have just looked at the free ads and there are a few cockers who are being sold on at a year old, but I wonder whether they'll eventually end up in rescue after being passed from home to home. In an effort to 'sell' their dogs people can often not tell the truth about any issues the dog may have and an adolescent dog can be a nightmare for those who don't know what that stage is about (I find this stage quite endearing at times because you know they are worth the hassle underneath all that naughtiness!)                    
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2004, 09:47:14 AM »
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Have just looked at the free ads and there are a few cockers who are being sold on at a year old, but I wonder whether they'll eventually end up in rescue after being passed from home to home. In an effort to 'sell' their dogs people can often not tell the truth about any issues the dog may have and an adolescent dog can be a nightmare for those who don't know what that stage is about (I find this stage quite endearing at times because you know they are worth the hassle underneath all that naughtiness!)


Penny I couldn't agree more with you!  I often see 1 yr old cockers for sale in the free add for £300!  This can say to me that the owner is more interested in the £ than the dogs welfare! :x

I heard recently too that a purebreed dog was aquired by a person through a rescue, then 2 months later was sold on at a profit :shock:  :x  not a cocker though, but maybe its a scam that rescues need to be aware of!                    


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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2004, 09:59:16 AM »
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I heard recently too that a purebreed dog was aquired by a person through a rescue, then 2 months later was sold on at a profit :shock:  :x  not a cocker though, but maybe its a scam that rescues need to be aware of!


I think alot of them are thankfully Emma, I've seen this scam posted on alot of the dog sites to make everyone aware of the problem.

Sadly if there is a pound to be made from selling these poor dogs then  you can guarantee that some unscrupulous person will be there looking out for them!!!                    
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2004, 10:40:12 AM »
I bought my scoobie from a breeder in south wales he was 4 and a half months old and loved him at first sight I was naive about doggie ownership and knowing what I know now I would have been aware of the tell tale signs of a puppy not having been socialised scoobs came with a load of issues was afraid of everyone and everything hes a fantastic dog and still need to work with him around other dogs but he loves his cuddles and kisses and I wouldn't swap him for the world it definately isn't easy raising a dog with 'problems' but once you gain that trust you can get them to virtually do anything ,so all breeders aren't what they are cracked up to be either. We could have been anyone they didn't ask what home life we had i.e. work,home(whether we lived in a house/flat) they just saw ££signs but I have a lovely little faithful friend
Please don't think that I am knocking all breeders I'm not just making the point that their are some dodgie ones out there.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2004, 11:20:47 AM »
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Please don't think that I am knocking all breeders I'm not just making the point that their are some dodgie ones out there.
Edith and scoobie x


Don't worry Edith - it's a point we've made time & time again. There are far too many irresponsible breeders churning out puppies not caring where they go & with no interest in their welfare once they've left their premises. Sadly, the "dodgy" breeders far outnumber the good ones I'm afraid :(                    
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2004, 11:33:53 AM »
thats true puppy farmers are one whole big problem on there own .all reputable breeders take dogs back . id hate to see where the dogs may end up , :( having said that they do end up in some really loveing homes , so in that case its better then staying in the home that dident care.  
fortunalty cockers dont have a big problem the poor old collie has though for every cocker theres a ton more collies . same problem i exspect  collies can be a handful lots of energy in the wrong hands could be tearing up your home because there bored then they just get chucked out  :cry:                    

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2004, 02:49:54 PM »
Collies and GSD's are a major problem in rescue and this probably stems from the fact that they are so popular that completely ignorant individuals breed them, if it can even be called that, throw the pups at anyone with cash and subsequently, lots of high-energy extremely intelligent (and therefore demanding) dogs end up in unsuitable homes, and eventually end up in rescue.

I've heard that cockers are very popular puppy farm dogs. Very cute as puppies so very profitable for puppy farmers  :evil:
It's really little wonder that the decent breeders now vet homes so strictly and many have blanket rules regarding working arrangements, children etc. Not only do they need to guarantee that their dogs will be in permanent homes, they also need to guarantee that the buyers are not hiding ulterior motives. It's shocking that many "professional kennels" (puppy farms!!) have dogs from good lines and decent breeders  :cry:

I have seen so many websites boasting that their pups (12 different breeds) are KC registered, from top lines, microchipped, vet checked etc. Shame they don't mention they grew up in dark barns and were born to mothers who had been used as puppy machines from their first or second season  :cry:

We could all go on and on, but it's so shocking that people see living animals as profitable goods, disposable when they are no longer useful  :cry: