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Cocker Activities => Working => Topic started by: Pearly on June 03, 2017, 07:14:40 AM
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It appears there is a whole vocabulary to learn when working a cocker spaniel :lol:
I thought it might be useful for anyone new starting out and a reminder for those of us who have been at it a while!
I'll start with a couple of words and my explanation of one, please add your own explanations below as I'm sure they differ throughout the UK....
Hup
Eye wipe
Go back
Gallery
FTS
Hup - sit, stay, do not move your paws until you are released
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Go back - to the spot i told you to wait at, not the spot where YOU want to wait
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Go back - to the spot i told you to wait at, not the spot where YOU want to wait
That's really interesting! To me, a 'go back' is a retrieve - go back in a straight line following the direction of my hand until I say stop or you find the bird/dummy/ball........apparently this is possible for cockers :lol:
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Just though of some more:
Seen
Blind
Distraction
Drop to shot
Swapping
3 ladies
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Eye wipe
When your dog is sent to retrieve a bird that has been shot for another dog but failed to find it. If your dog successfully retrieves this bird, the other dog is eliminated from the trial. Eye wiped.
That is my understanding but it could be completely wrong. ph34r
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So pleased you posted this, I've lost the plot quite often while reading threads on here cos I hadn't got a clue what a lot of you were on about!! Will follow this with due attention now and hope to learn something!! :005:
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Just one to add
FFS!
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seen a retrieve that the dog has seen fall
blind a retrieve when the dog has no idea where the bird/dummy is
Memory dog sent back to a place for a retrieve that it was seen earlier
Seek back Like a memory but dog is sent straight away
comearyoulittlebarsteward A long word but my fav meaning please come back to daddy
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Get on - hunt in front of me
Get in - hunt in the cover I am pointing at
Get out - go and retrieve
Sit hup - I really mean sit this time
Dead - release the bird
Wait - wait for me your hunting to far out
Lining - following a ground scent
Winding - following an air scent
Drop to shot - sit to gunfire
Sit to flush ) sit having flushed a bird or fur
Run in - retrieve before being released (see get out)
Quartering - hunting a zig zag pattern 15yds ish
Get here you little **** - self explanatory 😊
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Just one to add
FFS!
You have been on my shoots then 😁
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Just one to add
FFS!
You have been on my shoots then 😁
:005:
Some more to add in context ;)
Flagging
Tapping
Stop flag
Line out
Aye, aye, aye
Charlie
Flush point
Hold the line
Rides
Cover
Cover crop
There must be loads more........
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Oh yes......
Pricked and runners........ :lol:
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Eye wipe
When your dog is sent to retrieve a bird that has been shot for another dog but failed to find it. If your dog successfully retrieves this bird, the other dog is eliminated from the trial. Eye wiped.
That is my understanding but it could be completely wrong. ph34r
That's my understanding too and far better explained than I would have done..
Gallery - competitors waiting their turn, sufficient distance behind the back flag so as not to interrupt the runners competing (how much lingo!)
FTS - Field Trial Secretary
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Folk involved in a shoot day
Stops
Flankers
Beaters
Picker ups
Shoot captain
Gamekeeper
Under keeper
Beat keeper
Host
Gun
Loader
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So pleased you posted this, I've lost the plot quite often while reading threads on here cos I hadn't got a clue what a lot of you were on about!! Will follow this with due attention now and hope to learn something!! :005:
Are there any of the names/commands you would an explanation of?
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So pleased you posted this, I've lost the plot quite often while reading threads on here cos I hadn't got a clue what a lot of you were on about!! Will follow this with due attention now and hope to learn something!! :005:
Are there any of the names/commands you would an explanation of?
Thanks Jayne, can't think of any more at the moment, its all been very enlightening though!! ;)
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
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Yes its hi lost
There is also hi on.
It derives from old English "hie" to move quickly.
So its "get on with finding the lost bird in that area" sort of thing.
Apparently
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
Having watched the videos again, it sounds more like "Lars" to me. No idea if it actually is Lars getting shouted but it certainly sounds like it.
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
Having watched the videos again, it sounds more like "Lars" to me. No idea if it actually is Lars getting shouted but it certainly sounds like it.
Its definetely "hi lost" however it tends to come out as "hi lo" it will be his Lancashire accent. Incidentally he is from a village three miles from my home.
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
Having watched the videos again, it sounds more like "Lars" to me. No idea if it actually is Lars getting shouted but it certainly sounds like it.
Its definetely "hi lost" however it tends to come out as "hi lo" it will be his Lancashire accent. Incidentally he is from a village three miles from my home.
He also says 'git oot' :lol2:
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I use 'git' too. But as a noun, not a verb. Usually preceding by 'You little....'
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
Having watched the videos again, it sounds more like "Lars" to me. No idea if it actually is Lars getting shouted but it certainly sounds like it.
Its definetely "hi lost" however it tends to come out as "hi lo" it will be his Lancashire accent. Incidentally he is from a village three miles from my home.
He also says 'git oot' :lol2:
Ha, yes no idea why as that's not his native accent 😁
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
Having watched the videos again, it sounds more like "Lars" to me. No idea if it actually is Lars getting shouted but it certainly sounds like it.
Its definetely "hi lost" however it tends to come out as "hi lo" it will be his Lancashire accent. Incidentally he is from a village three miles from my home.
He also says 'git oot' :lol2:
Ha, yes no idea why as that's not his native accent 😁
Ha, yes I use that as well as other well chosen expletives 😁
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Having watched a few videos of the cocker championships, especially Ian Openshaw, who seems to win or be very close every year, I notice that he shouts something to his dog as it get in the vicinity of the shot bird. But I can't understand what he is saying.
Any ideas?
Mr Openshaw shout? On the shoots I've hear Hi-Lost or Find-it usually for retrievers, spaniels tend to be "there, there" if voice is used ;) or a long pip, followed by short pip on the whistle.......
Having watched the videos again, it sounds more like "Lars" to me. No idea if it actually is Lars getting shouted but it certainly sounds like it.
Its definetely "hi lost" however it tends to come out as "hi lo" it will be his Lancashire accent. Incidentally he is from a village three miles from my home.
He also says 'git oot' :lol2:
Ha, yes no idea why as that's not his native accent 😁
It's not the native accent of most of the people who copy him either!
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I noted the other week that philipa Williams uses "git oot"
I am thinking its done to avoid confusion between get on and some other command get out or get back maybe, I didn't get chance to ask her.
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I noted the other week that philipa Williams uses "git oot"
I am thinking its done to avoid confusion between get on and some other command get out or get back maybe, I didn't get chance to ask her.
Don't know. Not sure what's wrong with plain 'out'? 'Get' in front of everything seems a bit verbose and more confusing?! I don't say 'hup' either. :lol2:
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I noted the other week that philipa Williams uses "git oot"
I am thinking its done to avoid confusion between get on and some other command get out or get back maybe, I didn't get chance to ask her.
Don't know. Not sure what's wrong with plain 'out'? 'Get' in front of everything seems a bit verbose and more confusing?! I don't say 'hup' either. :lol2:
Good point. I used to say out but it has evolved into get out, I don't know why.
I tried hup mainly to sound like I was a "propper" gundog bloke and knew what I was doing 😁 that evolved into a sit hup, don't know why on that either ,😁
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Blanking in - pushing birds back into the drive (wood) on a shoot day.
Dogging in - pushing birds back into the pen (wood) before the season starts
With dogs of course
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Having read this thread I will no longer accept any criticism for lawyers using language that no one else can follow. :005:
The dogs meanwhile are thinking 'Why do they start talking funny when we come out? They never talk like this at home!'
All good fun!
ips - thanks for the definition of 'dogging in'. I had been working to a very different set of images and am very pleased to get them out of my head.
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Having read this thread I will no longer accept any criticism for lawyers using language that no one else can follow. :005:
The dogs meanwhile are thinking 'Why do they start talking funny when we come out? They never talk like this at home!'
All good fun!
ips - thanks for the definition of 'dogging in'. I had been working to a very different set of images and am very pleased to get them out of my head.
Ha yes 😁
Don't ever google dogging in, you will be suprised what goes on in your area and may never ho on that dog walk through that wood ever again 😁
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I use 'git' too. But as a noun, not a verb. Usually preceding by 'You little....'
:rofl1: :rofl1: :rofl1:
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I think this is the openshaw vid that murphys law mentioned re the "git oot" and "hi lost"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hptn-988l6Y
Must be a while ago as he looks young on this clip