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Title: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 03:49:06 PM
was checking Jarv's paws last night and found in one back paw 2 grass seeds and in the other back paw in the webbing  between his toes a really nasty cyst....the good thing is that it doesn't seem to be bothering him and he's not licking or chewing it.  This afternoon it's pretty red and inflamed but again he's not bothered by it.

The bad thing is I'm pretty sure it's a grass seed  >:(

so, as it's not bothering him he's on silica and I'm soaking his paw in epsom salts in an effort to draw out the seed. 

Please cross everything that this will do the trick - otherwise I can see a very expensive vets visit on Monday  ph34r

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Emma xx on June 18, 2011, 03:50:50 PM
Eek poor Jarv! That sounds sore....least he isn't being a typical fella and being dramatic about it :005: Fingers crossed for you :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: *Jay* on June 18, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
Fingers crossed that it makes an appearance before Monday!
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: maggieann on June 18, 2011, 04:01:38 PM
Hoping that the grass seed comes out. :luv:

I'm touching wood when I say this - but none of my Cockers have ever had a grass seed. :blink:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 04:04:13 PM
Hoping that the grass seed comes out. :luv:

I'm touching wood when I say this - but none of my Cockers have ever had a grass seed. :blink:

apart from one he managed to get rammed in his tear duct this is the first here  >:D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Coco on June 18, 2011, 04:19:43 PM
I hope it comes through  :-\ we had a very painful session once with the tweezers and a bit of gentle squeezing but at least the whole thing came out, fortunatly it was one without the furry spears so I hope it's the same for poor Jarv. The furry ones are a nightmare  :'(

I pulled two off Giz last weekend, one from her toes and one from insider her ear  >:( It's certainly the season.  >:D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: ladylola on June 18, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
Hope it does come out. Remember when Monty had a cyst between his toes, but the blumming grass seed had travelled up his leg.
A lump appeared further up his leg some weeks later.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Holly Berry on June 18, 2011, 04:27:06 PM
Poor Jarvis really hope that you manage to get the think out without having to visit the vets.

We have had loads this year already and having to resort to full brushing every walk.

Where do you get silica from Helen? as I think I had better be prepared.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: lindseyp on June 18, 2011, 05:05:10 PM
Paws crossed here for the grass seed to make an appearance without having to go to the vets (said that quietly so as not to worry Jarvis  :'( ) - but what a good boy for leaving it alone  :luv: :luv:
These grass seeds sound quite nasty & try to keep an eye out for the girls having a problem with one  :shades: ...in the foot is one thing but as for in the tear duct & travelling up their legs  :fear2: :020:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 05:08:24 PM
Poor Jarvis really hope that you manage to get the think out without having to visit the vets.

We have had loads this year already and having to resort to full brushing every walk.

Where do you get silica from Helen? as I think I had better be prepared.

you should be able to get it from any chemist or any health shop. 

Julie - I have everything crossed it doesn't do a Monty and does more of a Jool's Bramble!!  :-\
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Joules on June 18, 2011, 05:14:28 PM
Oh no, hope the bloomin' thing comes out on it's own and Jarv doesn't have to visit the V.E.T.  :-\
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: MaggieR on June 18, 2011, 05:23:52 PM
Awww Jarv.... wot a brave lad not making a fuss  :luv:  Everything crossed here it makes its way out the same way it went in!
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Toni-UK on June 18, 2011, 05:56:55 PM
I really hope it does come out with the help of the silica.

It is my nightmare,we got one out once between the toes,but the other time it was a trip to the vets as Ruby is a complete moo,and will not let us touch her feet when something is hurting there  >:(
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Jeanette on June 18, 2011, 06:09:24 PM
Hope its not a grass seed and even if it is that it expels itself.      Blooming things are everywhere, its a real mammoth job at the moment clearing Quinn of everything after a walk as everything is sticking to him.

Touch wood, we've never had a grass seed here either, had to pull one of our Indie's ear once though that would have gone in had we not spotting it. 

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: JeffandAnnie on June 18, 2011, 06:29:06 PM
I hope Jarv's foot gets better soon  :bigarmhug:. I'd never even heard of grass seed before COL, now I look at every blade of grass with trepidation  ph34r
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Nicola on June 18, 2011, 06:35:53 PM
Poor Jarv, I hope it comes out quickly without a vet trip :luv:

There are lots of walks we're not doing just now because of grass seeds, they're everywhere. None of my lot had ever had one and then Ro managed to get 2 in the space of 10 days last year, both times to the vet out of hours, the second time it had already gone deep enough to pierce his eardrum even though I took him in straight away >:(
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 06:51:31 PM
I hope Jarv's foot gets better soon  :bigarmhug:. I'd never even heard of grass seed before COL, now I look at every blade of grass with trepidation  ph34r

here's the sticky thread for you - some good info there.  It's hard not to view meadows with suspicion but there are particular types of grass seed that are the evil ones and this thread should help  ;)

http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=31055.0 (http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=31055.0)

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: cdpops on June 18, 2011, 07:34:53 PM
Everything crossed the silica and foot baths work for Jarvis, I hope he doesn't need a trip to the vet.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Danni and Freya on June 18, 2011, 08:20:23 PM
I hope Jarv's foot gets better soon  :bigarmhug:. I'd never even heard of grass seed before COL, now I look at every blade of grass with trepidation  ph34r

here's the sticky thread for you - some good info there.  It's hard not to view meadows with suspicion but there are particular types of grass seed that are the evil ones and this thread should help  ;)

http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=31055.0 (http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=31055.0)



Thanks for the link Helen, been wondering which grasses to worry about
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Toni-UK on June 18, 2011, 08:23:32 PM
Just reading through Jools thread made me think,there is a woman that walks a cocker in the same places as i do.

I saw her recently in a field near to me,it has a worn path around the perimeter,and through the middle.
I take Ruby in there maybe twice per week,but under no circumstances do i let her venture far off of the path as there is masses of seed,and well off the path it is thigh high in grasses.

I saw her last week,wondered where the dog was,then could see the tall grass moving,he was running through it  :o

He came out covered in seed on his back,i made a friendly remark about seed being the cocker enemy,she asked why......she didn't have a clue  :o  >:(

She told me he had a lump in his paw that had been there a while and that the "groomer" didn't get it out <sigh>
I told her about them travelling in the body,hope it sunk in  :-\
This is someone that has walked their pup at marching pace on and off a hard surface for 30-45 minute bursts since they were first taken out..... >:D

Ignorance is bliss,but theres no need for it  >:(

sorry to hijack and ramble on  :shades:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 09:16:34 PM
...and here's a few pics to make you :020: on a Saturday night -

It's definitely getting bigger, and it looks like it is starting to come to a head - considering last night we didn't know it was there, we definitely do now  ph34r

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/jarvis_2005/IMG_9821.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/jarvis_2005/IMG_9820.jpg)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/jarvis_2005/IMG_9819.jpg)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Joelf on June 18, 2011, 09:19:03 PM
Sorry about Jarvis' grass seed, Helen; I do hope it comes out with very little trouble and that his paw is soon better.

Domino got one in his ear last week, necessitating a couple of expensive visits to the vet to remove it. :016:

Here's a photo of the little blighter (with a match beside it to show the size.)

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/josie52/041.jpg)

Fortunately, there was quite a lot of wax in his ear which actually cushioned it a bit and stopped it doing any damage to his ear drum.

I've since bought him a snood to wear on any walks where there's the slightest chance he might pick up another one; he's not desperately keen on wearing it but I'm afraid it's a case of having to as I don't want him having to go to the vet and be anaesthetised again! :shades:

Here's a photo of him in his snood (much to his disgust!! ;))

(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b238/josie52/024-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: poppy on June 18, 2011, 09:21:30 PM
Poor Jarv, let's hope that it comes out quickly, before it makes anything worse and that you have to go to the Vet and get a big bill.

Fingers crossed that it will come out.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 09:23:35 PM
it's lovely to see pics of Domino again, even if he is "snooded"  :lol2: :luv: :luv: :luv:

evil evil seed  >:( >:D >:D

and thanks Joe, fingers crossed that this mysterious lump will reveal all.  He still hasn't even noticed that he's growing a 3rd testicle on his paw  :005: (I'm glad it's not bothering him though)

Thanks for all your kind thoughts everyone :bigarmhug:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Danni and Freya on June 18, 2011, 09:42:34 PM
Blimey poor Jarvis, really hope that can be sorted without the vet. Call me naieve but does the fact the wound is on top of his paw mean it entered the skin on the top? Being a newbie to all this I have only ever heard of them entering in between the pads and inside the ear. Can they actually enter anywhere?  :o
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Karma on June 18, 2011, 09:45:14 PM

Hope the Silica works its magic... and glad it doesn't seem to be bothering him...

I'm sure he's getting extra spoiled, anyway!!!  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: elaine.e on June 18, 2011, 09:46:21 PM
Nasty looking lump :o, but looks like it may burst and the seed will come out with any luck.

We're very lucky in the New Forest because the ponies, donkeys, cattle etc. keep the grass so short it never gets as far as seeding.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
@Danni -  the webbing between their paws goes back a loooong way - that cyst is actually still between his paws.  There's no entry site in that cyst which is really frustrating so if it is a seed who knows where it is.  Have a cuddle with Freya and stretch her toes out and check right back on the top of her paws, you'll be surprised how far back they go!  :luv: :luv: 

I think they're more likely to get caught there than in the bottom of their feet  ;)

The seeds are designed to bury themselves in the ground so once in the dog they scarily travel around their bodies and can be really dangerous - they really are a true menace.  My friends working cocker had a seed go up his nose and make a re-appearance in an abscess on the left hand side of his rib cage :fear2:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: ClareB on June 18, 2011, 10:00:13 PM
I HATE grass seeds, damn things.  >:D

Hope that it comes out the same way it went in and without a visit to the vet.  Big  :-* for Jarv.

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 18, 2011, 10:03:42 PM
  :-* for Jarv.



and he sends a massive snog right back atcha  ;) :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Danni and Freya on June 18, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
@Danni -  the webbing between their paws goes back a loooong way - that cyst is actually still between his paws.  There's no entry site in that cyst which is really frustrating so if it is a seed who knows where it is.  Have a cuddle with Freya and stretch her toes out and check right back on the top of her paws, you'll be surprised how far back they go!  :luv: :luv: 

I think they're more likely to get caught there than in the bottom of their feet  ;)

The seeds are designed to bury themselves in the ground so once in the dog they scarily travel around their bodies and can be really dangerous - they really are a true menace.  My friends working cocker had a seed go up his nose and make a re-appearance in an abscess on the left hand side of his rib cage :fear2:

Blimey, thanks for elaborating Helen, I will be extra vigilant now. Really hope Jarvs gets better soon  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: SkyeandOllie on June 18, 2011, 10:10:25 PM
Oh poor jarv  :'( looks nasty. Sounds like, hopefully, you've managed to get it moving to the surface without a trip to the vet
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: 8 Hairy Feet on June 18, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
Crikey ignorance is bliss!
Thanks for all that info as having only had short haired dogs before it's not something i was
really aware of, so that's a good heads up for me.
It's  still an upward learning curve for me in lots of ways.
xxx   
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: JeffandAnnie on June 18, 2011, 10:27:14 PM
having only had short haired dogs before it's not something i was
really aware of
I'm not sure if length of hair has any bearing? I had proper long haired doggies before cockers (rough collies - i.e. lassies) and never encountered grass seeds. I would have thought longer hair would actually help to act as a barrier to grass seeds?
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Poppypuppy09 on June 19, 2011, 09:00:54 AM
Poor Jarv  :luv: :luv: How is he this morning?

Poppy and Tessa send big  :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: for a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 19, 2011, 09:03:52 AM
errm it's still there but looking more fluid and angry no hopefully it's going to decide to do something today  ;)

Jarv sends :bigarmhug: to Poppy and Tessa  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Magic Star on June 19, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
Ouch that looks very sore, hope it finds its way out soon, poor boy :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 19, 2011, 04:22:24 PM
Ouch that looks very sore, hope it finds its way out soon, poor boy :luv:

that's the bizarre thing - he hasn't licked it, chewed at it or even noticed it's there at all :dunno:  However, I did extract a massive grass seed from his sisters paw today which left a nasty hole.  They're so evil  >:D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Poppypuppy09 on June 19, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
Jarv, its Tessa....Mum had to get a grass seed out from my eye today, cor it hurt, luckily they are doing that grass chopping thing in the fields by us today...hope you can get rid of yours soon  :-*
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: MacTavish Boys on June 20, 2011, 10:37:47 AM
Any news of Jarvis's grass seed yet Helen? i hope the silica has worked its magic, give Jarvis a gentle squidge from me  :luv: :luv:

Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 20, 2011, 10:48:09 AM
Morning Stephanie, George and Hamish  :D

The news so far is that whatever is in there is trying to come out - it's starting to weep and has come to a head.  As it's still not bothering him and he's absolutely fine I'm leaving it today and will re-assess tonight.  He was on Hepar Sulph and Silica over the weekend (H. Sulph helps bring abscesses to a head) and now it's weepy he's back on just Silica.  Bathing in warm salty water as my local chemist has run out of Epsom salts as someone bought the entire lot for their tomatoes?!  Getting some more today.

I'm not really that much of a 'believer' in Hom remedies but am giving it a go! I'd like to believe it works but the 'logical' side of me doesn't understand  ph34r If it does then I'm not going to argue  :lol:

 I spoke to the vet yesterday and they said to keep on bathing it and that if it doesn't naturally burst in the next day or so to bring him in.  Vet said it sounded 'promising'.

Jarv, its Tessa....Mum had to get a grass seed out from my eye today, cor it hurt, luckily they are doing that grass chopping thing in the fields by us today...hope you can get rid of yours soon  :-*

Hey Tessa - it's Jarv here - hope your eye is ok today  :luv:  I don't know why I have to stand with my paw in weird tasting water for hours on end.  I'll never understand humans  ph34r
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: 8 Hairy Feet on June 20, 2011, 10:50:01 AM
Please can somebody tell me how silica tablets work, I've looked through the threads and can't see :huh:
Should they be given as a preventative measure or just when you are sure a grass seed has entered the skin.
Thanks
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: *Theresa* on June 20, 2011, 11:25:04 AM
Usually I love pictures of Jarv...not liking those ones so much  >:D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: MacTavish Boys on June 20, 2011, 11:39:55 AM
Morning Helen  :D well it sounds  like the silica is starting to do the trick, like you i am not always a believer in the hom remedies, but if it saves a trip to the dreaded Vets  :005: George is not too keen  ;) i would go down the silica route first, if they do have a grass seed, it has definitely worked a couple of times, when George had them in his paw. Jarvis is a very good boy for not interfering with his paw :luv:

Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 20, 2011, 11:45:02 AM
Please can somebody tell me how silica tablets work, I've looked through the threads and can't see :huh:
Should they be given as a preventative measure or just when you are sure a grass seed has entered the skin.
Thanks

they're not a preventative measure - Homeopathic Silicea is used as it promotes the expulsion of foreign bodies so if there's a grass seed, splinter, piece of glass etc it's meant to help the body bring it to the surface.

It's also meant to be quite good as a treatment for anal gland infections as well.

If you suspect your dog has a grass seed you can use silica  - 30c is recommended.

If your dog has a cyst or abscess like Jarvis has we went down a slightly different route (luckily I have a good friend who is a Homeopath) and yesterday I was treating alternately Hepar Sulphur and Silicea every 20 minutes for 4 hours which seemed to have bought all the gunk to the surface.  I don't know if this is the homeopathy or his natural body defences but if it works I really don't care which it is  :shades:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: 8 Hairy Feet on June 20, 2011, 11:49:14 AM
Thanks Helen
Crikey Jarvs paw looks nasty, I hope he feels better soon!
xxx
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: supergirl on June 20, 2011, 12:13:05 PM
Oh Jarv, I hope that poorly paw is better soon.

We tend walk in different places at grass seed season - we have open heathland where cows graze freely and that seems to get rid of much of the tall grass.  The downside is that the cows don't like thistles so the dogs get that stuck in their coats, but it is the lesser of two evils.

Last year when I was grooming Lexi I found a grass seed sticking into her belly.  It didn't bother her until I tried to pull it out - thankfully it was only in about half a centimetre.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Poppypuppy09 on June 20, 2011, 01:15:26 PM
Hey Tessa - it's Jarv here - hope your eye is ok today  :luv:  I don't know why I have to stand with my paw in weird tasting water for hours on end.  I'll never understand humans  ph34r
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My eye is fine fanx  :luv:....I had that smelly watery stuff when I hurt my pad....if I had a slurp it made me blow bubbles  :005:....hows your paw now, hope you are ok, luff Tessa  :-*
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 20, 2011, 07:15:43 PM
well....I packed Jarv off to work with his dad this morning and dosed him with silica before he left.  OH kept an eye on it through the day and wiped off any yuk (of which there was a fair bit :020:)

At around 4pm he was giving it a wipe and saw something appear.....and gave it a gentle pull....and this is what it was...


(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/jarvis_2005/nastyseed.jpg)


not a massive seed but it's nasty enough  >:( it must have burrowed right up through his paw and out the top of his foot :fear2:

I can't tell you how delighted I am, the swelling and pus has almost gone and I think we've got it sorted :clapping:




Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Holly Berry on June 20, 2011, 07:21:43 PM
 :cool4: :cool4: :cool4: Well done Jarvis. Will definitely get some silica  :D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Poppypuppy09 on June 20, 2011, 07:22:58 PM
What a whopper  >:D....bet you are feeling better for getting rid of that Jarv  :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 20, 2011, 07:23:53 PM
:cool4: :cool4: :cool4: Well done Jarvis. Will definitely get some silica  :D

I still don't understand how it works   :lol2: but £5.10 as opposed to a weekend vet's visit is fine with me  ph34r

My friend who advised is getting me a kit for £38.99 that has the most general remedies that humans and dogs would need.  Who knows, I may become fully converted  :shades:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: JaspersMum on June 20, 2011, 07:47:20 PM
Glad it's out. I have no idea how such a tiny tablet works but I now have my little stash of Silicia, Rhus Tox, Arnica, Thuja and other bits and pieces as they do seem to do good.  My boss is really into the whole Aromatics/homeopathy/bach flower remedies and I'm still learning just what they can all do.

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: cdpops on June 20, 2011, 07:52:30 PM
Thank goodness for that! So pleased that Jarvis has avoided a trip to the vet.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Emma xx on June 20, 2011, 07:53:12 PM
wahooooo :D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Danni and Freya on June 20, 2011, 07:55:50 PM
Brilliant news that the little blighters out  :lol2: hope its not too sore Jarvis  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Bluebell on June 20, 2011, 08:06:38 PM
Ewww  glad that is out! Your post prompted my to check Lillie and Teva's  paws today.  Lillie was fine, but Teva had a few grass seeds, the same as your pictures, between nearly every toe, with about 4 seeds very stuck in >:( Thank you ;)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Lily Freya on June 20, 2011, 08:11:20 PM
Oh poor Jarvis.  Only just seen this thread, but so happy that the nasty thing is finally out.

Always learn so much from your threads Helen.  I knew nothing about the dangers of grass seeds.

Hope your paw gets better soon Jarvis. xxxxx
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Goggins on June 20, 2011, 08:21:10 PM
 :banana:thank goodness that nasty grass seed is out!!

On your advice Helen...have been using silicea and low and behold another piece of splinter has come out of my boys foot..thanks so much for your advice on this one as my vet has been stumped by the paw  :D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 20, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
:banana:thank goodness that nasty grass seed is out!!

On your advice Helen...have been using silicea and low and behold another piece of splinter has come out of my boys foot..thanks so much for your advice on this one as my vet has been stumped by the paw  :D

BRILLIANT ;)  I'm so pleased for you and your boy :clapping:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: janandted on June 20, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
So pleased for Jarvis the  >:Dseed is out........i too didn't know the dangers of grass seeds :embarassed:.......i do now :lol: so thankyou for your post ;)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: ladylola on June 20, 2011, 08:44:10 PM
Result  :D  So pleased that worked for him.

Nasty blumming things.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Toni-UK on June 20, 2011, 08:51:14 PM
Glad it's all sorted,,good boy Jarv  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Jeanette on June 20, 2011, 09:00:40 PM
Wow, I can't understand how that works but so glad its out now.    :cool4:

Think I may have to stock up on some just in case.   
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: lindseyp on June 21, 2011, 08:22:58 AM
So pleased to hear the seed is out & Jarvis's paw is healing already  :luv:  :bigarmhug:

sound like nasty little blighters these seeds   >:D  not come across any problems as yet but am more informed now & know what to look out for  ;) 
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: MacTavish Boys on June 21, 2011, 09:57:24 AM
  :banana: :banana: Brilliant news, so glad that the nasty seed has come out and well done to Jarvis for being such a brave boy  :luv: :luv:
Stephanie, George and Hamish xxx
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: aliceandlouis on June 21, 2011, 10:15:21 AM
So pleased the dratted seed is now out - well done Jarvis' body and his caring Mum  :D

Alice had something almost identical last year - it came to a head and without the benefit of my glasses all I could see was something 'alien' emerging from her paw - gave me a right old fright  :005:  I was struck by how pliable it was when it popped out, but within in minutes of being in the open air the darned thing had become as sharp as a needle - vicious things these seeds  ph34r
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Danni and Freya on June 21, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
Sorry to be a pain, but doing a quick search on silica i've found its a supplement for human skin, hair and nails. Is that the one you need to use?
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 21, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
this is more what you need Danni  ;)
http://www.boots.com/en/Boots-Silicea-30c-84-Pillules_870274/ (http://www.boots.com/en/Boots-Silicea-30c-84-Pillules_870274/)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: SJP on June 21, 2011, 12:35:03 PM
Have read this thread with interest.  Glad Jarv is now on the mend.

How on earth do they get into a dog's skin? 
I can understand how a "foxtail" seed could travel up a nose or into an ear, but is it just unlucky that Jarv stood on the pointy-end of one that pierced his skin like a needle? 

Crikey.....I could get quite paranoid about even taking Lola for a walk......grass seeds, adders, mud.... :shades:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Danni and Freya on June 21, 2011, 12:59:42 PM
this is more what you need Danni  ;)
http://www.boots.com/en/Boots-Silicea-30c-84-Pillules_870274/ (http://www.boots.com/en/Boots-Silicea-30c-84-Pillules_870274/)

Fantastic Helen, thanks for your help. Want to be prepared  :blink:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: PennyB on June 21, 2011, 01:28:00 PM
Thank goodness its out, so hopefully his foot will be on the mend.

Wilf had one 1 year that had wedged between his toes and it came up like Jarv's did (Wilf's was like a cherry tomato stuck between his toes)- vet had to remove it as all of it wouldn't come out.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 21, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
Have read this thread with interest.  Glad Jarv is now on the mend.

How on earth do they get into a dog's skin? 
I can understand how a "foxtail" seed could travel up a nose or into an ear, but is it just unlucky that Jarv stood on the pointy-end of one that pierced his skin like a needle? 

Crikey.....I could get quite paranoid about even taking Lola for a walk......grass seeds, adders, mud.... :shades:

the one Jarvis had definitely 'travelled' like foxtails do...and having got a foxtail out of Fudges paw on Sunday it's unbelievable how they burrow :fear:  about 3 mm sticking out of her skin out of a 1 inch seed, and for the size of the seed it left quite a big hole  :-\

It's not going to stop us walking him, and being perfectly honest there are very few grass seed free places around here to walk him....just have to be extra vigilant.

Penny, the swelling is gone and it's almost healed already  :o (thank goodness...)



Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: ladylola on June 21, 2011, 05:40:11 PM
Think all our dogs need to wear wellies  :shades:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: SimonandMandy on June 21, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
Great news, the success stories always amaze  :D  Ho0pe the poorly paw quickly heals now...
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: EmmaA on June 21, 2011, 09:59:54 PM
woohoo result  :D definitely better out than in ey Jarv  ;)
I'm glad his poorly paw is healing up nicely  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Pauline T on June 21, 2011, 10:45:42 PM
Pleased Jarv's paw is healing.  :D
Thank you for alerting me to the dangers of grass seeds and the advice about Silicea. I have learnt a lot through poor Jarv's misfortune.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Joelf on June 26, 2011, 02:19:42 PM
I'm very pleased to hear that Jarvis' paw is healing now, Helen; unlike me you've managed to save yourself a hefty vet bill!  :016:  ;)

I don't think Silica would have expelled the seed from Domino's ear though and I was worried that it would do some damage to his ear drum.

It's worth remembering about the silica for grass seeds in the paws or legs!! :D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on June 26, 2011, 04:07:14 PM

I don't think Silica would have expelled the seed from Domino's ear though and I was worried that it would do some damage to his ear drum.

It's worth remembering about the silica for grass seeds in the paws or legs!! :D

If it had been in his ear it would definitely be the v.e.t's  ;)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Mel on June 26, 2011, 07:28:31 PM
So pleased Jarv is healing well  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: mlynnf50 on June 27, 2011, 05:48:41 PM
So pleased Jarvis is doing well :luv: and you managed to get it out, we have just had Selby at the vets for one removing, and he has a lump he called a gangolin dont know how you spell it but he is not sure if its not another grass seed.  I will have to get some of the silica 30c another 2 hours on computer trying to find out if they sell it here in France.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: MaggieR on June 27, 2011, 06:00:06 PM
So pleased Jarvis is doing well :luv: and you managed to get it out, we have just had Selby at the vets for one removing, and he has a lump he called a gangolin dont know how you spell it but he is not sure if its not another grass seed.  I will have to get some of the silica 30c another 2 hours on computer trying to find out if they sell it here in France.

If they don't Lynn gimme a shout and I'll pop to Boots and send you some across...
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Post by: Helen on June 27, 2011, 06:58:18 PM
So pleased Jarvis is doing well :luv: and you managed to get it out, we have just had Selby at the vets for one removing, and he has a lump he called a gangolin dont know how you spell it but he is not sure if its not another grass seed.  I will have to get some of the silica 30c another 2 hours on computer trying to find out if they sell it here in France.

If they don't Lynn gimme a shout and I'll pop to Boots and send you some across...

if he has a cyst as well and it's like Jarv's then Hepar Sulphur as well. If you can get the remedies pm me and I'll go through the dosage with you.  In the meantime are you able to bathe Selby's foot?  If so I would be bathing it in Epsom Salts and warm water.  If not salt and warm water will definitely help.

Not nice at all  >:(  Poor Selby  :luv:
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: mlynnf50 on June 28, 2011, 10:55:20 AM


If they don't Lynn gimme a shout and I'll pop to Boots and send you some across...
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if he has a cyst as well and it's like Jarv's then Hepar Sulphur as well. If you can get the remedies pm me and I'll go through the dosage with you.  In the meantime are you able to bathe Selby's foot?  If so I would be bathing it in Epsom Salts and warm water.  If not salt and warm water will definitely help.

Not nice at all  >:(  Poor Selby  :luv:
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Thanks Maggie can you pm me please and I will arrange to send a cheque, that is really kind of you.

Thanks Helen I will pm you.

Selby is still milking it :005: :005: he is laid on the bed now.  But to be honest I don't think he is well and seems to have a temp but the vet give him an antibiotic injection because I find it difficult to give him tablets, and his foot is bandaged but he didn't stitch it , we have to take the bandage off in a couple of days.
I just hope the lump is a ganglion we will have to wait and see.  I don't think the weather helps as it is 35 in th shade.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: KayJay on August 15, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
Hi, I've just joined the forum, though have followed posts as a guest for a while. I've been reading through this thread (my working cocker has been attacking a back foot lately, can't see anything but worried it may be a grass seed), and have considered using silica but always understood it's not to be used on people with pacemakers etc.....wouldn't this also apply to microchipped dogs? Isn't there a risk of the chip being pushed out?
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Toni-UK on August 15, 2011, 08:52:19 PM
Hi, I've just joined the forum, though have followed posts as a guest for a while. I've been reading through this thread (my working cocker has been attacking a back foot lately, can't see anything but worried it may be a grass seed), and have considered using silica but always understood it's not to be used on people with pacemakers etc.....wouldn't this also apply to microchipped dogs? Isn't there a risk of the chip being pushed out?

I can't help with your question but that is interesting as a microchip is a foreign body also  :-\

I wonder.....

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on August 15, 2011, 09:12:42 PM
I've heard that one suggested a lot but I've never ever heard of it actually happening. 

To be honest I wish it had as Jarv's chip has slipped around his shoulder to his side and it would help to have it out so I can replace it  :shades:

On balance after the silicea and Hep sulph I got the grass seed out, the cyst healed with no infection within 4 days and he didn't have to endure a bout of anti-biotics which invariably leads to diawotsit and blocked anal glands  ph34r

You make your own choices and this one definitely worked for us  ;)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: KayJay on August 15, 2011, 09:58:20 PM
I emailed a homeopathic vet today to ask, he's not heard of a well-placed chip being expelled, so we're trying the silica....not certain there's a grass seed as I can't see anything, but she attacks between her pads every now and then. Here's hoping..... :D
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on August 15, 2011, 10:35:46 PM
I emailed a homeopathic vet today to ask, he's not heard of a well-placed chip being expelled, so we're trying the silica....not certain there's a grass seed as I can't see anything, but she attacks between her pads every now and then. Here's hoping..... :D

Crossing everything for you - really really hope it works  :D

I would also suggest bathing the paw in epsom salts or saline solution as well  ;)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: hollyd443 on August 16, 2011, 08:13:12 PM
On balance after the silicea and Hep sulph I got the grass seed out, the cyst healed with no infection within 4 days and he didn't have to endure a bout of anti-biotics which invariably leads to diawotsit and blocked anal glands  ph34r

Definately a better result! After seeing you post about silica a few years ago I used it on Mika (not long after we had her she had a grass seed that the vets couldn't find) and hey presto it worked! Would def recommend it!
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on August 16, 2011, 09:37:09 PM
On balance after the silicea and Hep sulph I got the grass seed out, the cyst healed with no infection within 4 days and he didn't have to endure a bout of anti-biotics which invariably leads to diawotsit and blocked anal glands  ph34r

Definately a better result! After seeing you post about silica a few years ago I used it on Mika (not long after we had her she had a grass seed that the vets couldn't find) and hey presto it worked! Would def recommend it!

BRILLIANT!  I'm glad it worked for you Holly - I know it goes against convention but after this I believe in it (for dogs and children especially)

Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: baz on August 21, 2012, 02:09:08 PM

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but i'm sure one of our dogs has a seed in it's paw.

I've just been to Boots for some Silicea 30c, did others who used it just follow the dosage for adults/children as per the bottle.

2 pillules every 2 hours for the first 6 doses, then 4 times daily for up to 5 days.

Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: Helen on August 21, 2012, 02:43:19 PM
That dosage sounds about right - you can also bathe the paw in Epsom Salts as this helps draw the seeds out.
Title: Re: Think it's a dreaded grass seed....
Post by: baz on August 21, 2012, 05:40:03 PM


Thanks for the reply, i'll go with the Epsom salts along with the Silicea.

He'll like all the fussing.

The things we do for our babies  :D