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Offline Angels of Fur

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Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« on: April 03, 2009, 12:25:38 PM »
Hi all, just wanted to say that FINALLY now my boy Alfie has turned 1, he can start his flyballing! which i hope will work a treat, he has excellant re-call and is so ball obsessed, and rather quick on his feet!

Jo from Warwickshire Flyball - member on here has been really great leading up to this point and was really friendly on the phone and i hope she knows what she is letting herself in for. lol.

Cant wait for the first lesson tomorrow! Hope my boy dont let me down!
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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 12:29:00 PM »
Enjoy and be patient, it takes time and the best bit is watching confidence grow each week, it won't take long to be hooked like the rest of us, the dogs just love it

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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 12:30:49 PM »
any tips ?
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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 12:31:40 PM »
Good luck but im sure it will be fine  :shades:

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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 12:35:24 PM »
Oh you'll have a great time, Flint loves Flyball, I'm looking for somewhere closer to us to start up again, the last place was too far!  Only tip I have is use a harness, it's a lot easier to handle then the collar.

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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 12:56:23 PM »
No tips except for plenty of exitement from you to get Alfie going - they really respond to it, the trainer should work with you both and at Alfie's pace, our always start with small steps so one jump, increase to 2 etc and at the start of each session all dogs are walked down and then run back so they remember what they are there for (we are still in junior class so it is nicely paced), do keep some toys in the car in case you need something to distract as it is all very exciting for the dogs and sometimes think they should be off to socialise, we found a tug rope was good for this just to wave around and don't forget your training treats ;)  (no whistles though as this can upset other dogs)

Harness a must - we use a rogz one for flyball as it is easy to hold on to but plenty of good brands out there

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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 01:06:16 PM »
Good luck!!  Sure you won't need it though, my two were naturals and have both turned into cracking little flyball dogs.

I would echo the comments about patience and confidence building.  I haven't found my cockers quite so 'robust' as my collies and they do need their hands holding a lot more while they get started  ;)
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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2009, 01:08:42 PM »
Good luck  - will be watching with interest as would like to do this with one of my two.
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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2009, 02:37:00 PM »
Welcome to the Flyball Mania!

you can do a few things training wise at home.

1) put a ball at the end of a hall/garden on the floor where Alfie can see it. You can start by throwing the ball at first but wait till its stopped moving. The idea is for them to learn to fetch a stactionary ball.

I tell Pepper 'Ready.. Ready..' so she knows whats coming (you'll here this a lot at comps! lol) followed by 'BALL!' as her release command (some ppl use 'GO!').

Start off with the ball close and gradually build up the distance. This helps get them used to setting off to find a ball, rather than chasing a ball. ALSO make a note of which way he goes after he picks the ball up (left or right) as this will help you find out what side of the box to put the ball.

2) Once you have this I'd move on to 'Over' command. This can be just a plank of wood on the floor, or a small jump (depends on size of garden, I only have one). Clicker training and treats work well for this.

3) Once you can work on calling them 'Over' the fence at a greater distance put the two together. I use my fence and a dog play pen to make sure they can't run out for this next step, as you don't want them to realise they can come back without going over the jump. As soon as he picks up the ball call his name (to get his attention) and Over so he knows to go over the jump

4)Gradually widen whatever you're using to fence him in with so he has the option to run out. If he does go back and re-enforce the Over command and narrow it again. Make sure the ball is straight with the jump or slightly to side (if her turns left put it slightly to the right, so when he turns back to you he's straight with the jump)

5) once you have this going well, move the ball slightly out of the comfort zone, but still get him to come over the jump. Gradually move the ball further and further out of line with the jump, in both directions. This is really helpful for teaching dogs if the don't catch the ball well from the box (fumble) they still need to come over the jumps.

6) another elliment to introduce is 'Turn's. How this is taught varies from club to club. At home, I have a rescued traffic cone (from a stream) and ask my dogs to Turn, then lure them round with a ball (or treat). This is now progressing slowly to me saying Turn with the ball out of sight, making a hand gesture and once they have gone round I throw the ball as the reward. You do have to watch they don't double back tho.

Pepper and Kye are at stage's 5 and 6. Pepper has been training for about 6 months, Kye since March last year. Pepper is the better dog at turns (she has a natural turn on the box already).

I always start each session at home with step one and do a few reps of each stage, just to re-enforce what they need to do. I also only do this twice a week max, on top of club training/comps

There's a flyball forum recently started with some nice people as members, with lots of tips:

www.flyballfever.co.uk

ETA: don't expect to be able to do all of the above in one go, it's taken me a good 6 months with each dog to get them running well at training/comps. And we still have off days (see Kye and Pepper's blog for details! lol)

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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 06:01:17 PM »
Sooooo, how did it go?! Hope you and the dogs enjoyed it  :D


There's a flyball forum recently started with some nice people as members, with lots of tips:

www.flyballfever.co.uk



Lovely website - great piccies  :D

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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 11:20:08 PM »
do you know what, iabsolutely loved it, and so did Alfie!!!
It took alfie a bit of encouragement to leave the house without honey and to put his old acol harness on ( he uses a halti now which he prefers ) he hates a harness and stands rigid. But he was so well behaved too.

The lady who held onto alfie i felt sorry for to start with as alfie can be nervous around new people, but ill admit she was great with him and by the end of the session they were great friends. A bit of chicken, sausage and a lot of belly rubbing later anyway.

The jumps are all enclosed, but the first time alfie decided to escape and find me without having to jump.

2nd time around he managed it with ease..... Alfie even managed to jump over all 4 in a go too, and done this a few times. i was so pleased with my boy!!! I think he loved it, his tail was going like a trouper!!! next lesson in a couple weeks!!! then it will be a regualr weekly Saturday morning meet. Cant wait!!!
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 07:41:16 AM »
Great stuff, pleased you enjoyed - be warned though it is addictive

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 07:55:34 AM »
Sounds like you wasted a good worry there - pleased you enjoyed it so much - I so so wish we had flyball in South Wales but its not to be
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Re: Flyballing tomorrow. Luck needed!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2009, 08:29:17 AM »
Sounds great fun  - our agility class have just asked if anyone's interested in doing flyball - 4 paws and a hand went up immediately.  They used to do it before, but the agility became more popular.  However, a few new members have been asking about it so looks as if we will have a flyball class as well.  Can't wait.
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