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Cocker Specific Discussion => Genetics & Breeding => Topic started by: sabink on May 25, 2007, 06:42:07 PM

Title: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: sabink on May 25, 2007, 06:42:07 PM
Hi all

Few questions from relatively wise cokcer spaniel owners

We have had 2 cockers now, one female (passed away) and a 1 year old male Golden called Ben.  Ben has full pedigree and a lovely temperement.

We are keen to have a pup from him to keep, but in breeding terms are not experienced. 

We have a few questions

1)  we would like to have Ben Hip/Eye Scored, can our local vet do this? Is their any certificate we need?
2)  would any experienced cocker breeders take Ben in and help with the breeding, or do we need more experience ourselves
3)  is Ben old enough at 1, is there any ideal age.  He notices female dogs often!!!  :005:

Any help or advice greatly appreciated

Heres Ben

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/sabink/Ben1-1.jpg)

Elizabeth and Karl
Derby
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: Cob-Web on May 25, 2007, 06:52:10 PM
How well is he achieved in the show ring? Reputable bitch owners would only consider him if he is successful and has something special to pass on to future generations  ;)

I am sure some of the more experienced owners who you meet at shows can explain how the Optigen, PRA and hip-scoring testing works, but afaik, some of the tests need to be done by a specialist vet   :D

Have you read the link that Jane posted for you? (http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=3420.0) There are lots of things to consider when you breed, including the fact that your boys personality may change......if you want another puppy like him, why not go back to his breeder, or find a litter with similar ancestory to Ben ?  ;)
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: Cazzie on May 25, 2007, 06:53:52 PM
Hi all

Few questions from relatively wise cokcer spaniel owners

We have had 2 cockers now, one female (passed away) and a 1 year old male Golden called Ben.  Ben has full pedigree and a lovely temperement.

We are keen to have a pup from him to keep, but in breeding terms are not experienced. 

We have a few questions

1)  we would like to have Ben Hip/Eye Scored, can our local vet do this? Is their any certificate we need?
2)  would any experienced cocker breeders take Ben in and help with the breeding, or do we need more experience ourselves
3)  is Ben old enough at 1, is there any ideal age.  He notices female dogs often!!!  :005:

Any help or advice greatly appreciated

Elizabeth and Karl
Derby

Hi there.

Have his parents had all the ness tests done?
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: sabink on May 25, 2007, 06:55:31 PM
Yes we were reliably informed, but can follow up.  Should they have certificates?
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: Cazzie on May 25, 2007, 07:12:15 PM
Yes we were reliably informed, but can follow up.  Should they have certificates?

Yes they should.  :blink:
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: *Adele* on May 25, 2007, 07:17:33 PM
Good points made by IWLass, I was going to post something along the same lines!  :005:
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: chelsea on May 26, 2007, 10:08:49 PM
I don't understand if you want somebody else to use your dog at stud or if you want to breed a litter yourself. I assume the 1st if you only have a boy and no girls.
There is nothing saying anybody would want to use your boy at stud. I don't mean to sound harsh but in the 'show world'  if somebody likes the lines behind your dog and thinks your dog is a good representative of the breed then they may ask to use your dog at stud.
Also you cannot guarentee that your boy will be able to succesfully mate a bitch. ;)
Have you checked to see if there are any breeding restrictions on his pedigree. If his pedigree is endorsed then that will mean you cannot register any puppies he sires with the Kennel Club. ;)

Would't it be easier to buy another puppy with all the relevant health checks rather than trying to breed one?

Ben is georgous! :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: PennyB on May 27, 2007, 11:24:48 AM
I can only agree with what Rachel (IWLass) and Chelsea says, and add that sometimes its best just to enjoy your dog as a pet
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: Joules on May 27, 2007, 01:37:41 PM
I agree with what has been said.  Since I have had Coco I have learned a lot and have deffo come to the conclusion that breeding is best left to the experts  ;)  If you want another pup, why don't you go back to Ben's breeder?
Title: Re: 1 year old Golden Male
Post by: sabink on May 27, 2007, 05:46:34 PM
Thabks all, points noted.