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Cocker Specific Discussion => Genetics & Breeding => Topic started by: dog2 on October 01, 2004, 08:18:05 AM

Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: dog2 on October 01, 2004, 08:18:05 AM
I,m not the sharpest tool in the box so am still pondering over the difference between working cockers and the 'other' cockers. :huh: Temperament,looks,needs etc.,Could anyone please explain in simple terms to me as i dont know which Benji is at all :unsure:  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: tracey on October 01, 2004, 08:39:04 AM
There is a photo of a working cocker on the Cocker Spaniel club's website on the colours page.
A working cocker is quite different to the show type. Working cockers have much less feathering than the show type. The ears are also quite a lot smaller on a working cocker. If you look at your dogs pedigree's and you see FT CH there then you will have working cocker in the pedigee. SH CH indicates Show Champion which will be the show type  :)

Tracey :)  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: Jane S on October 01, 2004, 09:33:34 AM
If you do a search on "working cockers" using the Search button at the top of the page, you'll get quite a few threads come up where the differences between show & working type Cockers have been discussed. But if Benji is a rescue, you may never know for sure what type he is - he could even be a mix of show/working bloodlines and so have some of the characteristics of both types.

Jane
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: cbabe on October 01, 2004, 01:41:31 PM
How about you post a picture and we can have a guess what Benji is game!!

clare
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: dog2 on October 01, 2004, 07:41:49 PM
(http://www.mypetpages.net/artists/1938/0/2dd0a9f17fb5c4a5d267b758d3f217ca.jpg)



Benji(a very short clipped Benji,but you get the idea :) )
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: Hel on October 01, 2004, 07:51:55 PM
He looks very much like a 'show', but, sorry, who the hell clipped him???
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: *Jay* on October 01, 2004, 08:26:43 PM
Awww bless him - my Brook used to get the 'short, back and sides' too :lol:  

PS He looks show-type to me ;)  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: Jane S on October 01, 2004, 10:03:21 PM
Yes he's show-type - if bred by a Working Cocker breeder, he would have a much longer dock.

Jane
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: dog2 on October 01, 2004, 10:15:39 PM
Poor Benj,he has really wiry curly coat and no feathers or fine hair at all.someone told me he was like that because he had been neutered.When we got him he was matted and the woman who owned him said he needed grooming once in 6 months can you believe it.When I took him to be clipped she(the pet groomer) did a short back and sides to him as she said it was about all she could do with his coat.So she has done that ever since.He does look a bit like a plucked chicken though and i,m hopefully going to get a defelter so that he can have a coat a bit longer but thinner.He looks like a teddy bear when it grows.I have been so manic just lately that although I,ve printed off the its a spring thing order form i havnt got round to posting it yet.I think he was worked very hard when a youngster and then it all stopped maybe he wasnt good at what they wanted him to be.So he piled on the weight and now we have had him over 2 years and he has lost an incredible amount he wont lose any more.The people that we rescued him from were apparently travellers.Well he is a show cocker.Hes very long and tall.
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: suki1964 on October 01, 2004, 10:58:36 PM
Whatever he is, hes still a charmer. You have your very own teddy bear with him :)

I know you got a lot of good advice at the surrey meet regarding his coat and I think that letting it grow, stop clipping it and use the coat king (defelter) and scissors you will see a much better coat.

My last boy was a solid and was kept clipped short back and sides as he went to work on the building sites, but in the winter when he stayed at home it was allowed to grow and with it came the feathering and he looked a completely different dog.

Give Benji a hug from me
 
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: dog2 on October 02, 2004, 12:21:11 AM
aaw thankyou...hug has been given :P  :)  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: suzysu on October 02, 2004, 05:18:53 PM
Long or short coat we thought he was lovely and very cuddly !

Hugs and kisses from Georgie and Daisy xxx
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on October 02, 2004, 05:37:15 PM
Awww give him a ((( hug ))) from  me too, he's gorgeous.  :)  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: dog2 on October 02, 2004, 11:24:21 PM
Benj says he agrees with you and he IS gorgeous :P  :lol:  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: AmandaA on October 04, 2004, 10:23:56 PM
This is an issue that has always rubbed me up the wrong way as we have a working cocker and a show cocker. They both have the typical characteristics that you would expect from their respective strains ie the worker is more agile and more intelligent but I would also argue that to say she is not the 'show' dog, she is also better looking.
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: Miss Poohs on October 04, 2004, 10:57:08 PM
It's two working cockers I have, and never having had a show cocker I have no comparison to go on, I would say both types are very attractive in their own way.

Of my two Vahri is very sleek and elegant, with the manners to match, where as Ruffy is chunkier and fluffier and more, well in your face.

 
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: kookie on October 05, 2004, 06:58:06 AM
Quote
This is an issue that has always rubbed me up the wrong way as we have a working cocker and a show cocker. They both have the typical characteristics that you would expect from their respective strains ie the worker is more agile and more intelligent but I would also argue that to say she is not the 'show' dog, she is also better looking.
I've met Amanda's dogs, and her working cocker has such an attractive face, and the most appealing eyes.
When our last cocker died, we had fully intended to get 2 working cockers, but it just so happened that Cleo and Livvy turned up 1st.
I don't think they are any less attractive either, how can any cocker not be attractive? :)  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: AmandaA on October 05, 2004, 11:49:12 AM
Sorry Karen
Didn't mean to offend, you know how we feel about Len.
I think what I'm trying to say is, where I would describe Molly as beautiful, I would describe Lennox as handsome. Maybe it's a male/female thing?!
 
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: kookie on October 06, 2004, 07:23:30 AM
no offence taken Amanda, I didn't mean anything. I think Molly is a pretty little lady. Me and my big mouth. I was on your side, but as eveyrone on the forum knows, I'm not very eloquent. :rolleyes:  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: cbabe on October 06, 2004, 02:26:35 PM
:D Told you the picture would work - we love guessing games on this forum :D

Although it wasn't much of a challenge - he is show type allright, Golden!!!

OMG though - i hope he has more coat by the winter or his bits will shrivel! :blink:  
Title: 2 Different Types
Post by: dog2 on October 07, 2004, 11:53:12 PM
:lol: At the moment he has lots of coat and very curly and thick because his groomer has just had a baby and cant clip him for another couple of weeks but have ordered a defelter from its a spring thing so i can thin his coat out myself and will attempt to clip the fur between his pads myself too.He is a loving dog and I,m looking for a yorkie friend for him atm.So I will tell him hes a show cocker.but the travellers i got him from were working him,catching rabbits and pheasant,then decided he wasnt good enough and stopped it so he got so big he could hardly stand.But now hes with me and we love him. :P