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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: tracee on November 16, 2004, 11:19:59 PM

Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 16, 2004, 11:19:59 PM: hi
we have an 11mth old black-cocker called jake who came home this evening from the vet after being there for4 days , being diagnosed as having an auto-immune disorder which they are treating, they also said he has kidney damage due to the auto-immune problem which might or might not sort its self out in time but more likely not .
he was eating while in the vets but he so far will not eat anything at home not even his favorite treats.
can any-one sugest any thing we might offer him that he might eat ? also some thing that might help to put some weight back on him as hes lost so much weight
many thanks tracee
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tobycat on November 17, 2004, 08:27:49 AM: I can't give you any advice but just wanted to say how sorry I was to hear of Jake's illness. Best wishes to you both.
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Post by: cbabe on November 17, 2004, 08:48:51 AM: Found this for you.....

http://www.executec.com/kidney.htm (http://www.executec.com/kidney.htm)

Think you better get a nutrician book out to find out what fresh foods fit the bill!

Clare
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: cindere528 on November 17, 2004, 09:13:54 AM: Sorry to hear about Jake, hope there's some improvement soon
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 17, 2004, 09:28:08 AM: thank you clare thats very helpfull :)
all hes had to eat so far is half a slice of bread (normally his favourite) :( not even being home with his gran, mum,dad.and big brother does not seem to help(all which are cockers) hes not even interested in the thing he loves to terrorize the most our blue colour-point persian.
it makes me up set to see him like this :(

tracee
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Jane S on November 17, 2004, 09:40:59 AM: Sorry to hear about your boy Tracee. Has your vet given you any advice on diet? Dogs with kidney trouble normally have to have a special diet so not too much strain is put on the kidneys. There is a prescription tinned food available for dogs recovering from illness - this went down a treat when we had very sick dogs last year who wouldn't eat anything else although I don't know if it would be appropriate for a kidney patient - you'd have to ask your vet.

Jane
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 17, 2004, 10:14:57 AM: hi jane
yes my vet has put him on sensitivity control by royal canin which he was eating when they had him but he will not touch it at home ????
they did try him with one for the kidney but he turned his nose up at it.
he has allways been a fussy eater unlike the others who would eat you if you stood still for long enough :P
tracee
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Jane S on November 17, 2004, 11:10:49 AM: A lot of fussy dogs like Naturediet, specially if it's warmed slightly before feeding. Have a look at the Naturediet site (http://www.naturediet.net/index.html) for more info - I'm fairly sure their food is suitable for dogs with kidney problems.

Jane
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Post by: scoobie on November 17, 2004, 11:55:20 AM: Hello Tracee so sorry to hear about your boy :( you say he's spent four days at the vets maybe it's been too much for him and once he's back home and re-adjusts hopefully things will settle down with him and then hopefully he will start eating again ;) When your animals are ill it's so very stressful for us so god knows what it must be like for them because they can't express how they feel
My dog Scoobie has been very poorly with a pancreatic disorder (his pancreas can't produce the enzymes needed to break down fats)and he will be on medication for the rest of his life and a prescription diet. It's so sad when they are ill but you have to do what's best for them and I'm sure you are but try not to worry and like the others have said have a word with your vet if he doesn't get his appetite back soon
wishing you all the very best and keep coming back to COL just for some friendly advice ;)
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Post by: tracee on November 17, 2004, 12:08:23 PM: thanks jane :D ....... we will give it a try
tracee
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: PennyB on November 17, 2004, 12:46:22 PM: Quote
A lot of fussy dogs like Naturediet, specially if it's warmed slightly before feeding. Have a look at the Naturediet site (http://www.naturediet.net/index.html) for more info - I'm fairly sure their food is suitable for dogs with kidney problems.

Jane
I'd also ring the people up at naturediet as well as they can be very helpful.

I think that with kidney problems isn't one of the issues the level of protein in the diet. Not sure about that but its best to get advice from your vet as to main requirements and then look at what's in various foods
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Post by: suzysu on November 17, 2004, 04:09:52 PM: Tracee - so sorry to hear about little Jake - like Edith said he may be feeling down after being at the vets. I'm sure with lots of love and attention he will pick up. Hopefully you will be able to sort out his diet and he will begin to thrive.

Gentle hugs from us xxx
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Post by: tracy on November 17, 2004, 04:10:15 PM: Hi Tracee

Very sorry to hear about your Jake. My 4 year old black boy Bobby was diagnosed with Immune Mediated anemia and went off all of his normal food. The only thing I managed to coax him with was freshly cooked chicken which he would eat.
I do hope that Jake continues to improve and gets his appetite back soon. Sadly for me Bobby's condition got worse and he is now at Rainbow Bridge...

There are a few other members on here who have cockers with the same condition and who are continuing to do well, I hope Jake will be one of these too.
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Post by: Pammy on November 17, 2004, 04:12:49 PM: My mum's old cairn had kidney problems and for years was on the special Nephritis food from the vet's It was a processed meat wet food - not ideal - but she loved it and lived on it for years and years.

When Jasper had a poorly tum he was given some Hill's food by the vet - again a wet food to help calm his tum. He loved it.

What I'm saying is that your vet should be able to point you in the right dircetion and perhaps start you off with something that you can maybe then source elsewhere as it can be so expensinve from the vets.

It must be such a worry for you not being able to find anything that he can eat.

Good luck.
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 17, 2004, 05:13:15 PM: hopefully he is just feeling down and tired from being in the vets.
have bought and tryed some naturesdiet but hes not interested at the moment he just wants to sleep(bless him) :)
i try not to worry but its a bit hard when i see him like he is???but we have to try everything we can as long as hes not suffering.
thank you for all the advice and kind thoughts tracee :D
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Post by: suzysu on November 17, 2004, 05:26:57 PM: Oh bless him - fingers crossed he perks up tommorrow.

Let us know how he is getting on. xxx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Pipers Mummy on November 17, 2004, 05:40:08 PM: Bless little Jake, hopefully he'll perk up when he's recovered from being away from home and manage to eat a little food.

Good luck,

Louise
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Sue H on November 17, 2004, 06:16:45 PM: Perhaps he would respond to a little bit of cooked chicken and rice, or some scrambled egg - bless him - my heart goes out to you, and I hope he rallies round soon
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Magic Star on November 17, 2004, 09:16:41 PM: Thinking of Jake, hope he gets well soon :)
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 18, 2004, 07:51:23 PM: jake died early on this evening in his human daddys arms surounded by everyone who loved him
sorry can"t say any more at the moment to upset
tracee
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Colin on November 18, 2004, 08:08:00 PM: Oh Tracee, that's terrible news, I can't imagine how sad and distressed you must be feeling right now. :(

Hopefully he didn't feel too uncomfortable in his final moments and appreciated having all of those that loved him around him at the end.
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Magic Star on November 18, 2004, 08:12:56 PM: :( :( Tracee, what devastating news for you, I am so very very sorry :(
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Pammy on November 18, 2004, 08:14:28 PM: Tracee

What terribley sad news. I can't begin to imagine how devastated you must all be feeling. Poor little Jake.

So very very sorry :(
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Post by: scoobie on November 18, 2004, 08:14:51 PM: Tracee Im so very sorry :( God Bless little Jake
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Cob-Web on November 18, 2004, 08:15:58 PM: Oh Tracee, i really can't find any words; I am so so sorry :(

Sleep well at Rainbow Bridge, Jake[/i][/font]
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on November 18, 2004, 08:18:26 PM: Oh Tracee, i'm so sorry :( My thoughts are with you, i'm sorry i don't know what else to say. :( take care. (((Hugs)))

Thinking of you and your family. Good night god bless little Jake :wub:
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: suzysu on November 18, 2004, 08:31:51 PM: Oh Tracee, I am so very sorry - please take care of yourselves.

Bless his little buttons - sleep tight Jake,

Love and kisses Sue, Georgie and Daisy xxx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: devondumpling on November 18, 2004, 08:36:56 PM: So sorry, but happy he was with all his family who loved him.Sleep well Jake.
Love to you all Chris and Smokey X
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Post by: Mike on November 18, 2004, 09:15:06 PM: So sorry to hear your sad news Tracee :(

If there's anything any of us can do, please dont hesitate to let us know.

Mike
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Mary P on November 18, 2004, 09:15:41 PM: So sorry Tracee, you are all in my thoughts.
xx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: PennyB on November 18, 2004, 09:19:03 PM: So sorry to hear such sad news
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Post by: bluegirl on November 18, 2004, 09:21:48 PM: So sorry to hear about Jake, take comfort that he was at home with his loved ones at the end and not alone in the vets.
God bless him.
From Karen
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Allison on November 18, 2004, 09:21:48 PM: So Sorry to hear this news, our thoughts are with you.

God bless.xx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Sheila on November 18, 2004, 09:56:20 PM: I am so very sorry to read the sad news about little Jake.
He is out of pain now....God Bless
xxx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: suki1964 on November 18, 2004, 09:57:15 PM: Such terrible sad news, my heart goes out to you and yours

Sleep in peace Jake
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: *Jay* on November 18, 2004, 10:34:49 PM: Oh Tracee, I am so sorry to hear about Jake :( I lost one of my boys in the summer so I know how utterly devastated you all must be. Thinking of you and your family at this awful time - take care of yourself :(
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Post by: tobycat on November 18, 2004, 10:44:09 PM: OMG :( I'm so sorry Tracee :(
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Post by: Michele on November 18, 2004, 11:23:28 PM: Tracee & family, I'm so very sorry to hear your sad news. God bless little Jake, run free at the bridge :(
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Post by: Tracey J on November 18, 2004, 11:47:37 PM: Tracee I don't know what to say, it's so terribly sad :( . My thoughts are with you and your family now. x
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Gilly on November 19, 2004, 01:15:52 AM: I too am truly sorry to hear your sad news :(
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Post by: Pipers Mummy on November 19, 2004, 06:31:42 AM: Tracee - I am so sad to hear about Jake :( :(

Thank goodness he was with his loved ones when the end came.

Goodnight God Bless Jake.

Louise
xx
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Post by: betastorm on November 19, 2004, 07:24:04 AM: So sorry to hear your sad news :(
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Post by: Shirley on November 19, 2004, 08:18:30 AM: :( so sorry to hear about Jake.
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: lizzy on November 19, 2004, 08:50:24 AM: I'm so sorry to hear this.

Run free little man xx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: kookie on November 19, 2004, 08:54:03 AM: I am so sorry
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Post by: Shazza on November 19, 2004, 09:13:29 AM: I am so sorry.

Run free Jake
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Dog Mad on November 19, 2004, 09:32:20 AM: Sorry to hear of your very sad news.

At least Jake is no longer suffering.

Take Care
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Post by: Sass on November 19, 2004, 09:53:36 AM: So sorry to hear your sad news.
Thinking of you xx
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Post by: cbabe on November 19, 2004, 09:54:27 AM: So sorry for you and your family. Thinking of you x

Run free little man x x x

Clare
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Post by: Mary on November 19, 2004, 10:03:23 AM: What a terrible shock for you? I just can't begin to imagine how you must be feeling. How lovely that you were with him though, you must take comfort in that.

Mary
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Post by: graciesmum on November 19, 2004, 10:15:39 AM: :( Am so sorry to hear your very sad news :(

Im sure my Emma will keep him company on the rainbow bridge
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Post by: Dunton4 on November 19, 2004, 10:45:09 AM: So very sorry to hear your sad news.

Sue
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Post by: shonajoy on November 19, 2004, 11:05:02 AM: Oh no, I'm sitting here in tears now, I'm so so sorry, Tracee, but I'm so glad he was surrounded by so much love at the end.
x
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 19, 2004, 01:56:36 PM: jake passed away very peacefully and painfree he just closed his eyes and went to sleep having a cuddle from the person he loved most in the word :D his dad.
we will bury him under the apple tree next to his grandad who we also lost 9wks ago due to old age(17yrs old) so they will be able to play all the time together :D .
thank you all for the kind words and lovely thoughts you have send :D its nice to know that other people know how you feel.
it helps to have the other dogs especially harvey jakes older brother (14mths) who just knows when you need a cuddle and makes you play whether you want to or not :D
love tracee
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tobycat on November 19, 2004, 01:59:44 PM: Oh Tracee how awful to lose just one - but to lose two so close together? I cannot imagine how you must be feeling. I'm so glad you have Harvey to help you through.
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: DIANNE32 on November 19, 2004, 02:46:17 PM: im so sorry tracee, im sat here looking at my golden boy whos the same age as jake and tears are running down my face, i cant begin to imagine how you feel at the moment. My thought are with you at this really sad time.
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Post by: tracy on November 19, 2004, 03:16:14 PM: :( So So sorry Tracee to hear about little Jake...

Have sent you a PM
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Post by: jilly on November 19, 2004, 04:59:07 PM: So sad :( Sorry to hear of your loss, our thoughts are with you all.
xxxxxx
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Post by: suzysu on November 19, 2004, 06:22:40 PM: Oh dear Tracee you really have had a sad time. Thinking of you all xxx
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Post by: taniac on November 22, 2004, 03:12:07 PM: Dear Tracee, Thinking of you at this sad time.
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: Gaynor on November 22, 2004, 03:47:25 PM: Hi

IM SO VERY SORRY to hear your terrible news ...........

Thinking of you

Love gayn XXXXXXX
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Post by: Tuuli on November 23, 2004, 06:51:27 PM: Tracee - I have jus read about Jake and it really madaa me cry. It is sooo sad.
My little Bailey has been poorly and I have been very sad. However, it is nothing compared to what you have been through. I am thinking about you and hope that... Well, it takes time. Bless you and your little Jake.

Tuuli & Bailey
xxx
Title: Poorly Gorgeous Black Boy
Post by: tracee on November 23, 2004, 08:46:18 PM: :D hi tuuli+bailey thank you for your post .
i hope bailey is getting+feeling better
take care traceexxxx