i have just bathed eddie and barnaby together in a shallow bath, and they loved it, thought they would have been terrified, elmo was at the first time, anyway i had to tell you i tried crazy dogs new puppy shampoo and it smells like" baby talc", you put on the children, mmmmmmmm......they smell divine, and the coat is shiney and so soft, worth a try, i am also going to invest in the ear powder, i have forgotten the name, its in an old thread, but does anyone have an idea as to how much you safely can put in the ear, and do they have an old nik nak item that they find usefull around the house to put the powder successfully in the ear, that you would recomend so as to get the exact amount, if you know what i mean safely in, as someone said it went like concrete, as they used to much i think,