hi i have read in the dogs today magazine that there is a council for tail docking don,t no if that still is true though,,i don,t mind either way but i think it,s probably true that they would not fare well in shows if they did not meet specific standards,, never mind with or without we still luv em,,my hubby had hair when i met him,,now he,s bald,,still love him to bits though,,costs a packet that mr sheen doesn,t it tee hee :wink: