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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: IonaD on March 13, 2019, 08:39:00 AM
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Hi all,
I’m new to the board and my reason for joining now is I’m at my wits end with what to do about my cockers lip fold detmatitis!!
She is a two year old female called Bella and we live in Italy. About two months ago I took her to the vets after she developed a stinky mouth and they diagnosed the lip fold dermatitis. They prescribed antibiotics as it had got infected. It cleared up in no time but they advised I keep the area clean using a clorexyderm spray. This was fine but Bella hates me going anywhere near her lip fold as I presume it’s quite sore.
Within a month she had picked up another infection and we went back to the vets. She was put on another course of antibiotics and we were told to clean the area with clorexyderm wipes. She’s now finished the antibiotics. We are cleaning her mouth twice a day after she eats and I’ve changed her bowls from plastic to ceramic.
Cleaning the area is still an issue as she really hates it but it’s easier with the wipes.
Is there anything anyone can recommend to me in terms of managing this ongoing condition. I have read lots on the internet and much of it is conflicting. I guess I just wanted to know what other cocker owners had done to manage this and if surgery is really the only option in the end.
Huge thanks in advance to anyone who can help!!x
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You may find that resorting to surgery is the best and kindest long term solution. One of my cockers has recently undergone the surgery and is now healed and comfortable with no prospect of the soreness ever returning.
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I had exactly the same problem with Lola.
Hates me touching her mouth.
I put 2 teaspoons of apple cider vinegar mixed in with her morning food. I also changed her on to grain free.
It has sorted it out without needing surgery.
Good luck xx
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Just to add,it needs to be apple cider vinegar ‘with the mother’ ie with the sediment which you can get from Amazon x
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My cocker struggled with lip fold infections some years back. After months of painful treatments and antibiotic creams we opted for surgery. The result was really good. Even the day after surgery she seemed happier and less painful. It healed quickly and without the need of more antibiotics since the infected tissue was removed and the blood supply in the area is excellent. Never had a problem since. Obviously I only have that one experience to draw from, so your vet will know what's best. But I am really glad I chose the surgery for my dog.
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Thank you so much for the replies so far.
I mean she seems fine in herself and always has done it’s just becoming such an ordeal having to clean her mouth I wanted to see what other alternatives were out there!!
I’ve ordered some apple cider vinegar (the one recommended from Amazon) so I’ll give that a try and if that doesn’t work we’ll be back to see the vets.
Thank you again.x
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Bobby is having the surgery tomorrow!
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What is the average recovery time from the surgery? If we end up resorting to surgery she’ll need it on both sides.
Good luck for tomorrow Bobby!!
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With only the skin being involved it is a superficial surgery, so as soon as the stitches come out recovery should be over :) Other than the cone of shame being a nuisance, and leash walks being somewhat boring, the week after surgery was like any other week for us. They do both sides at the same time. I don't remember exactly how long the stitches were in, but it's usually about a week for stiches on a superficial wound, maybe 10 days at most?
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Great info!! Thanks again for the help and advise on this guys.x
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Coco had persistent infections when she was young and ended up having the surgery.
No problems since, and it all healed up very quickly. The surgery is on the outer folds of the mouth and so didn't bother her with eating etc. I think she had soluble stitches, so they came out on their own.
In the meantime, you can wash with dilute Hibiscrub and dab dry to try and stop the lips remaining too soggy.
Hope you get things sorted soon
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Bobby had his operation yesterday, the pain killers are doing their job and he doesn't seem bothered by it. The vets gave me a cone collar just in case but, so far, I haven't needed to use it. He enjoyed his normal Saturday run (off lead) on very windy Cleeve Hill earlier today.
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Good news, well done Bobby. Heal quickly young man. :luv:
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Before we discovered the "Working Type" we had the "Show Type", one of these had this problem and we had to have surgery.
This was a good decision, she healed up quickly and never had any further problems.
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Glad to hear Bobby is doing well!!
We’ve just had the Apple Cider Vinegar delivered so we’re going to give that a go and see what happens from there.x
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When we had this problem it kept coming back despite different antisceptics and antibiotics. The vet eventually recommended Manuka Honey in conjunction with any treatment, which worked well for us using hospital human grade antibiotics to clear the infection before lip fold surgery, then after the surgery until the stitches were gone. A complete success with no further occurrence.
Its been 3 years now since we lost him to unrelated problems, missed every day, only just had the heart to look in on here again.
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Hi I recommend Douxo pyo pads for this problem. One clean a day and any dirt lingrring in the lip fold is easily removed. I have bathed with dilute hibiscrub on a cotton wool pad and it looked clean. Then tried one of these and the amount of dirt it removed quickly and easily was quite a surprise! Antiseptic and antibacterial. They aren’t overly expensive either. I have used them alongside antibiotics for a lip fold infection and now use them as general maintenance. ;)
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Thank you for the new info!!
I’m currently using chlorexyderm wipes/spray on a daily basis plus apple cider vinegar in her food. All seems to be under control for now.x
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Thank you for the new info!!
I’m currently using chlorexyderm wipes/spray on a daily basis plus apple cider vinegar in her food. All seems to be under control for now.x
Might also be worth sprinkling some Thornit powder onto some cotton wool and dabbing it on after drying following the antiseptic spray x It will keep the area dry
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There is a gel with chlorexyderm in called Dentisept https://www.petdrugsonline.co.uk/dentisept
Works in a slightly different way as it adherse to areas.
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There is a gel with chlorexyderm in called Dentisept https://www.petdrugsonline.co.uk/dentisept
Works in a slightly different way as it adherse to areas.
So I googled Thornit powder and it comes up as Thornit ear powder. Is this the same thing? If I am way off the mark could you possibly point me in the right direction?
Thank you in advance!!x
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There is a gel with chlorexyderm in called Dentisept https://www.petdrugsonline.co.uk/dentisept
Works in a slightly different way as it adherse to areas.
So I googled Thornit powder and it comes up as Thornit ear powder. Is this the same thing? If I am way off the mark could you possibly point me in the right direction?
Thank you in advance!!x
Yes thats the one - useful to keep ear problems at bay too!
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I have had two Cockers with the lip issue, both had surgery which was totally successful, and because their lips were so sore before they didn't even notice the dfference and didn't need their 'collar' healed quickly and without a probem
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I have had two Cockers with the lip issue, both had surgery which was totally successful, and because their lips were so sore before they didn't even notice the dfference and didn't need their 'collar' healed quickly and without a probem
That matches my recent experience with Bobby.