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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: MIN on May 24, 2023, 04:05:43 PM
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Gemma back at the vets. We found a lump on the back of her neck and she also has a sore mouth. The lump they think is a infected tick bite. We did remove one a while back but as it was intact and alive thought no more of it
She is in for a dental, and if the lump hasn't improved they will do a biopsy.. we opted for bloods aswell, good job as her kidneys are showing elevated readings. They are hoping this is due to the metacam she has been on and will normalise now they have changed to something else.
Me and wallet are waiting to fetch her home and found out the outcome of her sore mouth.
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Hope all goes well and its all nothing to worry about
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3 teeth removed ( including 2 front teefs so she won't be smiling). The roots were badly decayed and a bad infection. Only 36 months since her last dental op. She was also kept on the drip longer than necessary to help flush her kidneys. She is home for rest HAha, and soft food( I had fish and chips to share, well they are soft) No worries now until 8pm when I have to get half a paracetamol down her. Now that is a challenge 😵💫😵💫🐾
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Poor Gemma, I hope she enjoyed her fish :luv: Good luck with the paracetamol and keeping her quiet :luv: not sure which of those is going to more difficult!
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:bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: to Gemma!! Hope she‘s feeling better soon! :luv:
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Poor Gemma, hope she makes a swift recovery.
Hugs from Dylan and me
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Sorry to read Gemma is not well, everything at once poor lass :huh: wishing her a speedy recovery :luv:
:bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
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Sending lots of love to Gemma and hope she is soon feeling better with your TLC
:bigarmhug:
Julie and little Harry
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Update.
Gemma has not bounced back after her dental , 3 teeth removed and bad infection. . Her post op checkup is Tuesday but we decided not wait. It's hard to describe to someone else what is abnormal about their everyday behaviour. .Anyway ,they think it due to the infection and pain . So stronger antibiotics, tramadol and parcetamol.
She is currently fast asleep as the painkillers have kicked in.
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Update.
Gemma has not bounced back after her dental , 3 teeth removed and bad infection. . Her post op checkup is Tuesday but we decided not wait. It's hard to describe to someone else what is abnormal about their everyday behaviour. .Anyway ,they think it due to the infection and pain . So stronger antibiotics, tramadol and parcetamol.
She is currently fast asleep as the painkillers have kicked in.
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:'( oh poor Gemma. I think most of us can relate to the misery caused by teeth problems, no wonder she‘s not herself. Fingers crossed the antibiotics will kick in over the weekend and she‘ll start to feel better.
Lots and lots of :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: from me and bum wiggles and tail wags from Humph‘.
xxx :luv:
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Sending lots of love to Gemma. Hope she begins to feel better soon xx
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Poor Gemma :luv: I hope the antibiotics do the trick, that’s a shame for her. :luv: :luv:
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Sending lots of :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: to Gemma
Julie and little Harry
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Poor Gemma Sending you both lots of gentle :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: I hope she is feeling much better very soon :luv:
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Poor Gemma. Teeth are a pain when they come, and a pain when they go (and often while you've got them!). Hope she feels better when the drugs kick in.
Lesley and Dylan
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We are not out of the woods yet. Tuesdays vet visit didn't go well. Her temperature is up again, she won't eat (thinks mum is poisoning her as she sniffs the med). We have tried many foods to try and entice her. Her mouth is healed .The lump on her neck, which they think is a bite has not changed despite the antibiotics she is on
She doesn't want to get up in the mornings and takes herself to bed during the days. . We have 2 days now to try and get her ",normal' before a vet visit Friday for a more through check over and a stay for tests. We are very worried :huh:
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Oh dear poor Gemma, :luv: it's so worrying when you see them unwell and not coping. I hope she starts to feel & get better soon poor girl, for her sake and yours.
:bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
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Poor Gemma, it is so very hard when our four legged darlings are not well.
I do understand how very worried you must be, and I hope she starts to pick up soon.
As always :bigarmhug: to Gemma and a cocker kiss to both of you from Harry.
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I am have happy tears. Gemma has asked for her chew chews, and is chomping away. Maybe she is turning the corner.❤️
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Sending lots of positive thoughts to you and Gemma. Glad she’s wanting a chomp on a chew!
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Lesley and Dylan
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That sounds positive!!! :clapping:
Hope she continues to get better, sending :bigarmhug: to you both, :luv:
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Oh thank goodness, I really hope she is on the mend, that was a very worrying read.
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Fingers crossed she has turned a positive corner :luv:
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Thinking of Gemma and hoping she is on the mend soon. Time and medication will hopefully bring Gemma back to her sprightly self.
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saga continuing
suspecting Pancreatitis now. had blood test this morning and reading is abnormal. on way now for steroids to help her. leaving her diet as it is at the minute as it has took a while to start her eating after dental and other on going infection. but am aware of low fat diet so i know what tit bits etc to stop. At least liver and kidney readings have returned to nornal .
ps, any body got advise on how to bung up a spaniels nose so it can not sniff out medications ph34r :005:
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Poor Gemma, you must be so stressed as you have been up and down with worry.
My suggestion of cheap pate to disguise the tablets may not be helpful if you are trying to cut down fats. You can get a device that looks a bit like a syringe that is meant to shoot pills down the throat. I did try with Marley but I wasn’t very successful.
Something similar to this
VZOM Pet Pill Gun Dog Pill Shooter Cat Tablet Soft Tip Syringe Pet Medical & Liquid Feeding Dispenser Tool for Small Animal https://amzn.eu/d/1rHt4Kl
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Vixen
I thought about one of them, but she won't open her mouth for love nor treats. She has a clamp down far stronger than any of my staffies. Hopefully the steroids have no smell and chicken can come to the rescue. Have been using cocktail sausages but have thrown them away after the vet visit, Hope they haven't helped towards it
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Oh dear, poor Gemma!
Haven’t lived in UK for many a long year, but can you still buy those little jars of fish paste?, probably wouldn’t contain quite so much fat and possibly smelly enough to disguise tablets?
Sending :bigarmhug:
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Oh boy, that’s the last thing she needs, poor love. Would set honey coating the tablet, wrapped in ham/chicken or similar be any good? I don’t envy you getting meds into her! Xx
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Oh dear, sorry to read this, If you can't get fishpaste, Fish4Dogs make a mousse in different flavours (Trout, Salmon or Cod) that might hide the tablet smell/taste, although they may be too high in protein - 9.4% if not might be worth a go - postage is free any order, however small so you could just buy 1 packet of each if you think they would do the job.
https://www.fish4dogs.com/ you will find them listed under shop/dog/mousse and oil
Hoping Gemma feels better soon :luv:
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Ollie was on steriods tabs and they are small little white tabs, used to hide is tiny bit sausage at first, but when the steriods kick in his appetite increased and he was reminding me it was pill time every morning.
Years ago a vet told me princess paste salmon or meat. While I understand the low fat diet, a wee piece bread with spread might help. But the prednisol are small and just to add she will drink.
Hugs to Gemma
P.S the Fish 4 Dogs mouse would work fine but Sainsbury do have princess paste- was given some to try for Harry as freeby.
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thanks for the info people. Both her new tablets are tiny. They have gone down with a piece of chicken.. Her last anti bio was tonight and that went down along with her tramadol. the vet would like me to try and also get the paracetamol down but that is a very big NO NO. Shall get some fish paste :020: :020: and give them another go. If gemma doesn't like it i am sure i can give it to OH for his tea, he doesn't usually complain about what is on his plate ph34r :005: :005:
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Min.....again Ollie did on occasion have paracetamol and it was liquid not tablet.
Hope you find the paste ok and this morning finds Gemma improving
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If gemma doesn't like it i am sure i can give it to OH for his tea, he doesn't usually complain about what is on his plate ph34r :005: :005:
00 yummy fish paste and cucumber sandwiches, a treat indeed ;)
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I pray I am not tempting fate
What a difference, half a steroid and a tummy tablet and a good night sleep. We were woke up by a tail wagging licky machine. Can not believe how brighter she is. Really hoping the corner has been turned. We are not got her on a low fat diet at this stage because the vet doesn't want her to stop eating now we have got her interested in food again. But we have stopped all treats and extras to help her. I have ordered some special ones for pancreatitis sufferers. They will be given instead at selected times. Fingers and paws crossed
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Thank heavens for that! So pleased for you. My friends cocker had pancreatiitis and McAdams wet food went down a treat. Low fat and good quality. I used to buy it for /daisy as an alternative to raw when we were away in the motor home. Delighted to hear things are on the up. https://mcadamspetfoods.com/en/dog/wet/free-range-turkey-garden-vegetables-for-dogs/
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Thank heavens for that! So pleased for you. My friends cocker had pancreatiitis and McAdams wet food went down a treat. Low fat and good quality. I used to buy it for /daisy as an alternative to raw when we were away in the motor home. Delighted to hear things are on the up. https://mcadamspetfoods.com/en/dog/wet/free-range-turkey-garden-vegetables-for-dogs/
Cheers, shall have a look. Can I ask, do you get firm Pooh's with wet food. Sorry
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Aah good news indeed - hope the improvement continues :luv: :luv:
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Thank heavens for that! So pleased for you. My friends cocker had pancreatiitis and McAdams wet food went down a treat. Low fat and good quality. I used to buy it for /daisy as an alternative to raw when we were away in the motor home. Delighted to hear things are on the up. https://mcadamspetfoods.com/en/dog/wet/free-range-turkey-garden-vegetables-for-dogs/
Cheers, shall have a look. Can I ask, do you get firm Pooh's with wet food. Sorry
Yes, you should do. Might take a day or two with a new food, but the ultimate picky madam, who would throw up at the least thing, had no issues with this, from either end. Daisy was fussy and not a foodie, so I was a bit shocked when she hoovered this first time. :lol2:
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That’s good news :clapping:. A waggy tailed morning wake up call after they‘ve been poorly is like the sun coming out after a week of rain! :luv: :luv:
Happy Sunday and :bigarmhug: to Gemma!
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Today went paddling in the river. Gemma has had terrible Pooh's since she became unwell and we have been unable to clean her back end because she would scream in pain. We had no idea where the painful place was because she would scream at random places on her body. So up early this morning, armed with flannel and towel off we went to the river. Great fun was had by all parties involved and as a result, one sparkling clean bottom and legs. Tonight she has returned to her normal kibble so hopefully back to firmm, pick up able Pooh's
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Today went paddling in the river. Gemma has had terrible Pooh's since she became unwell and we have been unable to clean her back end because she would scream in pain. We had no idea where the painful place was because she would scream at random places on her body. So up early this morning, armed with flannel and towel off we went to the river. Great fun was had by all parties involved and as a result, one sparkling clean bottom and legs. Tonight she has returned to her normal kibble so hopefully back to firmm, pick up able Pooh's
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Today went paddling in the river. Gemma has had terrible Pooh's since she became unwell and we have been unable to clean her back end because she would scream in pain. We had no idea where the painful place was because she would scream at random places on her body. So up early this morning, armed with flannel and towel off we went to the river. Great fun was had by all parties involved and as a result, one sparkling clean bottom and legs. Tonight she has returned to her normal kibble so hopefully back to firmm, pick up able Pooh's
That’s brilliant :lol2 well done. I hope normal service will now be resumed :luv xx
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Today went paddling in the river. Gemma has had terrible Pooh's since she became unwell and we have been unable to clean her back end because she would scream in pain. We had no idea where the painful place was because she would scream at random places on her body. So up early this morning, armed with flannel and towel off we went to the river. Great fun was had by all parties involved and as a result, one sparkling clean bottom and legs. Tonight she has returned to her normal kibble so hopefully back to firmm, pick up able Pooh's
That was a cunning plan! Healing wishes to Gemma.
Lesley
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Only lasted one day without steroids. Back to the vet today as we are not happy with her general behaviour today. So, now are armed with another 3 weeks of steroids to try with the possibility that she will have to have a low dose for ever. Also have had a biopsy on her neck lump as that has shown no improvement despite all previous meds. Another sad day for Wallet..
Wish they could tell us how they feel. But a spaniel with no interest in her toys is a good indicator
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Min...sometimes the steriod option truly helps, it did for Ollie and he was on them for 2 years intially on 10 mg then 5 mg then 3mg - yes you can read allsorts of negatives, but they gave Ollie a better wellbeing and while it increased his appetite and weight, just to see a cocker who enjoyed his days and his daily rountine, outing etc was worth it.
I was once told that they give a better sense of wellbeing by my Dads GP when my late Dad had them, and when I had covid I ended up on them to help with my asthma.
On a brighter note that little fellas built in clock would eagerly remind me it was his smartie time(steriod) at 8am and pre lunch.
Sending positive thoughts to you and hugs to Gemma
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Min...sometimes the steriod option truly helps, it did for Ollie and he was on them for 2 years intially on 10 mg then 5 mg then 3mg - yes you can read allsorts of negatives, but they gave Ollie a better wellbeing and while it increased his appetite and weight, just to see a cocker who enjoyed his days and his daily rountine, outing etc was worth it.
I was once told that they give a better sense of wellbeing by my Dads GP when my late Dad had them, and when I had covid I ended up on them to help with my asthma.
On a brighter note that little fellas built in clock would eagerly remind me it was his smartie time(steriod) at 8am and pre lunch.
Sending positive thoughts to you and hugs to Gemma
Gemma's steroids are the same as I take when my asthma flares up
Hers are only 5mg tablets (one a day) so not a big dose. Her weight has dropped 600gs since we started on this journey. Hopefully that is just because all food, treats and extras are monitored.
OH had just let her out of her cage (used when we go out or think she needs a rest) and she has run out with a toy, so meds have already kicked in again
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Min...so glad to read this.
Take care
Julie
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I am glad the steroids are working for Gemma, and I hope the longer dosage does the trick. A spaniel ignoring toys is not a good thing!
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Fingers crossed that the meds do the trick, as you put it recently, its a rollercoaster ride true enough.
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Wishing Gemma a steady and lasting recovery :luv:
:bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: for you all
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Good news. Neck lump is not showing any cancerous cells. Thinking is that it is either a infected tick bite or a reaction to another bite,sting etc. Vet is reluctant to do anything that would require her to go under anesthetic because of current issues. So when current meds finish I think we will have it removed if it hasn't disappeared. Don't see the point of harvesting a sample when for a few minutes extra we can get it removed.We all deserve a few days away so off to North Wales next week , dog friendly of course. :luv:
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That's a big relief regarding the lump. Seems sensible to hold off for now, and see what happens. Enjoy your holiday, I think it's well timed. :luv:
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That's a big relief regarding the lump. Seems sensible to hold off for now, and see what happens. Enjoy your holiday, I think it's well timed. :luv:
That's what I like about being retired. You can just go when you feel like it. Never could when we was working, couldn't afford to either
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Hope you all have a lovely holiday
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Phew, that's a relief. Hope you have a lovely break. Agree being retired is brilliant, just got back from a few sunny days in the east neuk of Fife in our campervan. Dylan loves it.
Lesley and Dylan
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Wonderful news
Have a lovely time in north Wales and be sure to say hi if you see an imp called Harry running around.
Julie and harry
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Wonderful news
Have a lovely time in north Wales and be sure to say hi if you see an imp called Harry running around.
Julie and harry
If little imp Harry get squealed at by a ginger with bright yellow bug collar that's Gemma 😂😂
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Today we helped Gemma over the bridge. We are heartbroken 💔 This morning we went to the emergency vet as she was not right. We decided to have a x-ray which showed up massive cancers in her liver and lungs. The vet also thinks it had spread to her brain which actually made sense to us. It was the steroids that kept her going but she declined when we cut the dose. She is now pain free but our world has collapsed. :💔🐾🐾
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I am so very sorry to read this. Can't think of words, except my heart goes out to you & that we are all here if you need us. :luv: :luv:
Here are some :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: for you, hope they help
Irene
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Shocked and so very sorry to read your devastating news 😥. All of us here can empathise with the hole she has left in your hearts :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
Lesley and Dylan
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I am so terribly sorry to learn about Gemma xxxx
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Oh Min I simply am shocked and so saddened to read this, Gemma was so loved by you both, but here also she was loved and thought of with so much affection.
I send you all my love and am thinking of you at this sad time.
Julie
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I am very sad and very shocked to read this. My heart breaks for you, sending all my love and sympathy to you both. xx
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I'm so very sad and shocked to read this. I know how much Gemma was loved and meant to you both. You must be devastated. Sending :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: You gave her a wonderful life.
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Oh no, what a loss for you. Gemma was blessed to have you to care for her and she must be leaving a huge cocker-shaped hole in your lives right now. She is at peace, free of pain but that best and last service we do for them is so hard to bear.
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Oh Min! Was out all day yesterday so have only just seen this, but am absolutely gutted for you and am so so sorry. You were a team and the love you had for each other will have made her journey over the bridge easier for her, will comfort you now and in the future when the shock and pain eventually gives way to a joyful memory. She‘ll be in you hearts forever.
Take care :luv: Sending :bigarmhug:
XxJayne