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Cocker Specific Discussion => Grooming => Topic started by: Chocolate Hero on July 25, 2015, 12:34:21 PM

Title: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: Chocolate Hero on July 25, 2015, 12:34:21 PM
Just took Archie to the groomers & i could cry. Asked to tidy his feathering up & he's come back scalped, theres no fur on his ears legs or belly he looks like they have given him a number 2 all over & almost a poodle tail, the total opposite of what i asked for. Embarrassed to go out now as he no longer looks like a spaniel, let alone the cute one that always get stopped.

Can anyone recommend a hole we can hide in till it grows back were all mortified.
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: zenon_bass on July 25, 2015, 12:50:22 PM
Poor you! Poor Archie!  >:(.
The same happened to Millie this time last year, so we know how you feel...
From being a very curly wurly madam, she came back llike a skinned rabbit.   >:D
I was so shocked I couldnt stop myself from commenting...won't go there again...
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: its.sme on July 25, 2015, 12:58:08 PM
It's surprising how quickly the fur can grow back, I would have a word with the groomer ( if you feel able too), they clearly have a different idea to tidy up and may not be used to grooming spaniels, a good groomer will always take time to understand what you want your dog to look like.

If you ever get over the shock it might be a good idea to take photo's with you, that way they can see your expectations.

If you post where you are maybe someone can recomended a good Groomer for the future.

My girl has a number 2 look at the moment, this is also not what I want her to look like but needs must at the moment!

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Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: wendall on July 25, 2015, 01:27:37 PM
I think I would burst out crying if that happened th Honey. Although I am lucky as I have found a good groomer, and I often get asked where I get her done. But even then, whenever I take her, the groomer always asks if I want to keep her toupe or not and the answers always the same. YES!
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: julie1 on July 25, 2015, 03:30:32 PM
Kez is 5 & 1/2,    in the past we have tried goomers only twice, I hated it every time............so purchased all the necessary to do it myself, I have only myself to blame if I don't like it.
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: Chocolate Hero on July 25, 2015, 05:08:36 PM
the sad thing is we have used them before, he was a little short last time as we had just took him in & the matts had to come out but they left all his feathering as best they could. Im just upset that they didn't listen to what i asked and repeated my self loads. We won't be going back, thick its going to be DIY. Only reason he went in is he's still getting used to being brushed as his previous owners didn't.

Main thing is he's still happy even if were not. Fingers crossed some comes back before he's in kennels in a couple of weeks time.
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: Ben's mum on July 25, 2015, 09:23:52 PM
its a shock isn't it!! the same thing happened to us with Ben when he was about 1.  I almost couldn't believe it was my dog as he looked so different, I just cried  ph34r
it did grow back, and I ended up like others doing my self, its may not look always glamorous but I can cut him to the length I want and no nasty surprises.

 Bet he is still gorgeous  :luv: 
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: dipsydoodlenoodle on July 25, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
If you are going to DIY groom him, If you need help you can bring him over or I can come over to give you a hand until you get what you are doing!

I'm sure he still looks lovely
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: Chocolate Hero on July 25, 2015, 11:36:07 PM
ill take a picture tomorrow as its awful.
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: dawn on July 26, 2015, 08:05:05 AM
If it's any consulation, I like Henry without his feathering and a very short cut. It's cooler and doesn't pick up as many twigs, seeds, mud etc. Henry luvs it too, and runs round like maniac for the first few days. :005:

His granny doesn't like it though!

I'll be proud to take Archie out, no need to hide in a hole! Send him up to us.....
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: minimoo on July 26, 2015, 09:04:31 AM
It will grow back and Archie will be lovely and cool. I would be more concerned with the groomer ignoring what you asked for and whether you went back or not I would certainly telephone them and tell them you are not happy and why.
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: Joules on July 26, 2015, 09:55:53 AM
It will grow back and Archie will be lovely and cool. I would be more concerned with the groomer ignoring what you asked for and whether you went back or not I would certainly telephone them and tell them you are not happy and why.

I agree. Archie won't care and it will soon grow back  ;)
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: AndyB on August 04, 2015, 08:04:06 PM
Get yourself a grooming table and Andis clippers. (These are the most expensive items you need)  You will also need scissors, combs and other items which are less costly.  You will save an absolute fortune in the long run.  I have been grooming Jazz myself since he was one and its a lovely bonding experience for us.  I would not say he enjoys it, even now, but he will put his front paws onto the grooming table and I lift him up so he knows what's coming.   I always do him over two sessions so its less stressful for both of us.  You can trim as much or as little as you want then and if you do make a mistake it will grown back. 
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Post by: Macette on August 05, 2015, 10:20:33 AM
Yes I agree with AndyB, I got the table mainly for brushing then recently bit the bullet and bought trimmers. So glad I did...I have done one major clipper cut, short neck and back kept hairy legs and it turned out not to bad. Might go a bit shorter next time. Lexi was quite use to going on the table it is such a back saver....well worth the money check Amazon.


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Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: julie1 on August 05, 2015, 05:01:42 PM
Get yourself a grooming table and Andis clippers. (These are the most expensive items you need)  You will also need scissors, combs and other items which are less costly.  You will save an absolute fortune in the long run.  I have been grooming Jazz myself since he was one and its a lovely bonding experience for us.  I would not say he enjoys it, eve now, but he will put his front paws onto the grooming table and I lift him up so he knows what's coming.   I always do him over two sessions so its less stressful for both of us.  You can trim as much or as little as you want then and if you do make a mistake it will grown back.


This how Kez is............but I think it's the primula cheese not me that she loves. :lol2:
Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: suzzywuzzy on September 22, 2015, 04:32:59 PM
I am relieved to hear it is not just Daisy who had this shocking grooming experience! I'm at the stage where I know she needs another clip but can't face taking her back to either of the two places she was given a "spaniel clip" which turned out to mean a number 2 all over!
How easy is it to learn how to use clippers? I only really need to address her tummy area where some matts occur due to the use of harness. She's happy to be combed all over everywhere else.


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Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: Macette on September 22, 2015, 05:13:30 PM

I am relieved to hear it is not just Daisy who had this shocking grooming experience! I'm at the stage where I know she needs another clip but can't face taking her back to either of the two places she was given a "spaniel clip" which turned out to mean a number 2 all over!
How easy is it to learn how to use clippers? I only really need to address her tummy area where some matts occur due to the use of harness. She's happy to be combed all over everywhere else.


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You can do it....I started just doing bits at a time, maybe her legs one day and body another day, ears after that. First try and cut the tats out, if you can't tease them apart. Then I attempted her back with the clippers. Not as hard as you think. They have guards but I didn't have much luck with them. They also have a lever on the clipper for long and short...I put them on long and had a go. It was fine. I also bought a pair of thinning scissors covers a multitude of sins. Just thinned the hair after chopping the hair on the legs. Have a go ...you can cut the bits that need it. Not going to groomers again....it all grows again. :-)



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Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: suzzywuzzy on September 22, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
Thanks for the confidence boost :-)


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Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: julie1 on September 23, 2015, 09:25:35 AM

I am relieved to hear it is not just Daisy who had this shocking grooming experience! I'm at the stage where I know she needs another clip but can't face taking her back to either of the two places she was given a "spaniel clip" which turned out to mean a number 2 all over!
How easy is it to learn how to use clippers? I only really need to address her tummy area where some matts occur due to the use of harness. She's happy to be combed all over everywhere else.


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You can do it....I started just doing bits at a time, maybe her legs one day and body another day, ears after that. First try and cut the tats out, if you can't tease them apart. Then I attempted her back with the clippers. Not as hard as you think. They have guards but I didn't have much luck with them. They also have a lever on the clipper for long and short...I put them on long and had a go. It was fine. I also bought a pair of thinning scissors covers a multitude of sins. Just thinned the hair after chopping the hair on the legs. Have a go ...you can cut the bits that need it. Not going to groomers again....it all grows again. :-)



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Another NO GROOMER here, for the same reason............I think if they find one cotter, they use it as an excuses to shave all over, tht makes the job quicker.

Title: Re: Spaniel Toupee?
Post by: 6thSense on September 24, 2015, 03:28:52 PM
As an ex Pro Groomer I have to stand up for groomers a bit here. We're not all bad and some do their very best to complete a groom to a customers wishes, which from my experience can be hard to determine at times. All I am saying it can be hard for groomers too and they are only human. However the thing about the grooming industry is that anyone can set up as a groomer without any training, qualifications or such and call themselves a pro groomer. There are no regulations.  So this means that you can get a breed specialist who is highly experience and qualified offering the same service as jo blogs down the Rd who has just gone out and bought themselves a pair of clippers and a table nothing more than that. This makes the grooming industry a very mixed bag. I would suggest when you are looking for a groomer you look for experience especially with your breed and maybe qualifications, but for me experience is just as important. Recommendations are also good idea. At the end of the day though it's hair and it will grow back.  :) x