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Offline KatieJean

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2008, 09:39:58 AM »
Hello Adele

Do hope things are better for you today. Do know how you must be feeling as have been through a situation years back.
I'm sure Chloe will be ok when sorted.





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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2008, 12:41:33 PM »
For what it's worth I've had 2 dogs who have developed cataracts one who went completely blind and the other who ended up with very limited vision and both had sound natures before they deteriorated. I never noticed any changes to their personalities. They did not start biting or become agitated. We had young children when we had Bonnie and we just gave her her space and told the children not to touch her if she was in her basket or sleeping. We talked to her alot so she always knew when we were about to approach her.

I think for the time been I'd probably give her a bit of space and see if she'll settle in another room or the crate, have a chat with the children so that when they go past her they make her aware of their presence by talking before they reach her.

I'd also look into complications / pain from her op, sometimes adhesions can develop which although you will not see anything on the outside may be painful internally and cause her to be irritable or it may be a hormone re adjustment period which will settle in a while.

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2008, 05:14:00 PM »
I'd also look into complications / pain from her op, sometimes adhesions can develop which although you will not see anything on the outside may be painful internally and cause her to be irritable or it may be a hormone re adjustment period which will settle in a while.

Hope the vets can help.
    thats exactly what i thought and said on an earlier posting, about the pain from the op,hope you got on ok at the vets today  :blink:
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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2008, 06:01:01 PM »
I sympathise with poor Chloe as I had a similar operation myself that same week! I could certainly have reacted badly/defensively to noisy kiddies. I hope that if you can separate them with a baby gate, problems may settle before becoming a habit. She may certainly still feel internal stitches twanging, and have, as I do, 'swelly-belly' which is extra fluid in sore tissues which is very very uncomfortable....
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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #64 on: November 29, 2008, 06:41:24 PM »
For what it's worth I've had 2 dogs who have developed cataracts one who went completely blind and the other who ended up with very limited vision and both had sound natures before they deteriorated. I never noticed any changes to their personalities. They did not start biting or become agitated. We had young children when we had Bonnie and we just gave her her space and told the children not to touch her if she was in her basket or sleeping. We talked to her alot so she always knew when we were about to approach her.

I think for the time been I'd probably give her a bit of space and see if she'll settle in another room or the crate, have a chat with the children so that when they go past her they make her aware of their presence by talking before they reach her.

I'd also look into complications / pain from her op, sometimes adhesions can develop which although you will not see anything on the outside may be painful internally and cause her to be irritable or it may be a hormone re adjustment period which will settle in a while.

Hope the vets can help.

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2008, 11:14:31 AM »
Thank you everyone so much for all your support, it means so much to me! I'm ever so sorry for not updating the thread after our visit, my head hasn't been quite right to say the least!

Well the update is Chloe is not in any apparent pain or discomfort, the vet can find nothing medically wrong with her (other than her eyes obviously) so is pretty much at a loss the same as me! Chloe is on a course of antibiotics and anti-inflammatories just in case she is in some kind of discomfort which the examination didn't reveal, the vet clearly saw how distressed I was and other than the obvious couldn't really offer any other suggestions. Since Thursday Chloe has only done one thing which I found out of character and that was to jump up at Clive whilst he was sat on the sofa, nothing malicious but there was no reason for her to do so. I've kept a very close eye on everyone and had a good talk with the kids and with Clive when they've been in bed discussing what I should do. I still have no idea!

Chloe's back at the vets on Tuesday for her booster jabs and my intention was to watch her over the weekend for any reactions or unusual behaviour and take the time to really think about what should be done. Clive offered to take Chloe to his tomorrow when he goes back but as she's at the vets I said not to at the moment.

I know in the back of my mind I feel like I should the most heart breaking decision but I'm not giving up on Chloe that easily. I still really don't trust her and it's very difficult to be around her at the moment but I know my emotions and behaviour will be picked up by her so trying very hard to act normally, not an easy task!

So apologies again for lack of an update, not really a huge update is it? I still feel no further forward!

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2008, 11:21:59 AM »
Oh Adele, I really feel for you... not having any answers is so hard.

There is nothing I can suggest or say really, but I'm thinking of you and really hope she's back to her normal self very soon.

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2008, 11:50:48 AM »
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I'm really sorry you are no further forward - thinking of you lots  :luv: :-*

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2008, 01:05:15 PM »
:luv: :-*

I'm really sorry you are no further forward - thinking of you lots  :luv: :-*

Same here, it must be a huge worry for you
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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2008, 01:25:26 PM »
Thank you guys, it is a huge worry and I'm constantly on my toes but not much new there! LOL! Will keep you upto date with all and everything and see how the next couple of days go I guess!

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2008, 03:25:50 PM »
Cataracts can change and grow, so these still sound like a real cause to me. I'm going to guess that the incidents took place in the early evening when the light is changing? This seems to be a time when some dogs have the most difficulty, they don't seem to be able to make the adjustment to the change in light well :-\

A veterinary eye specialist could give you more info, but as far as I know the only treatment for cataracts is surgery. You might want to speak to a behaviourist to help you out with this also  :blink:
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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #71 on: November 30, 2008, 03:51:24 PM »
Well the update is Chloe is not in any apparent pain or discomfort, the vet can find nothing medically wrong with her (other than her eyes obviously) so is pretty much at a loss the same as me!

Did he do blood tests as well, as a full exam should include this to be able to say your dog is healthy
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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #72 on: November 30, 2008, 04:08:53 PM »
I've just read through the whole thread and have drawn these comments together as I think they may be helpful. So sorry that you are having to experience this.

My daughter told me this morning that before Chloe went for her last night she looked up at Leigh for a moment so clearly saw her and then went for her, so to me that's not Chloe being startled, she looked up and saw my daughter then took action.
Ah, but was it Leigh she saw, or just a looming blurred shape that she didn't recognise? :-\

Cataracts can change and grow, so these still sound like a real cause to me. I'm going to guess that the incidents took place in the early evening when the light is changing? This seems to be a time when some dogs have the most difficulty, they don't seem to be able to make the adjustment to the change in light well :-\

My OH is blind and jumps out of his skin if I suddenly speak or touch him on the shoulder and he hasn't heard me come into the room.....

We talked to her alot so she always knew when we were about to approach her.
have a chat with the children so that when they go past her they make her aware of their presence by talking before they reach her.
I begin to talk before I enter the room now  :005:
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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2008, 08:16:04 PM »
Well the update is Chloe is not in any apparent pain or discomfort, the vet can find nothing medically wrong with her (other than her eyes obviously) so is pretty much at a loss the same as me!

Did he do blood tests as well, as a full exam should include this to be able to say your dog is healthy

Nope, no blood tests were done Penny, very good point!  ph34r

I'm going to speak to the eye specialists tomorrow, slightly nervous and embarassed as I went bankrupt owing them money  :embarassed: Hopefully they won't hold that against me  :-\ Going to be a struggle to fork out the money in advance that's the only problem as well, gawd what a mess!  :'(

The one thing with her eyes that concerns me and has done from the day it was diagnosed is that if I put her under the stress of the huge operation to have the cataracts removed she's only 2 and they can come back! If she was an elderly dog there are obviously other implications with the anaesthetic but I have said since diagnosis that unless it is totally necessary I won't put her under the stress of the op, especially as they could come back  :-\ How many times could I potentially put her through this experience and operation?  :huh:

Her behaviour has been back to normal over the weekend which I'm very grateful for and we experienced a nice cuddle earlier which I've not been able to do since last week  ph34r So I'm trying to rebuild the trust as it's not a happy house at the moment.

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Re: Shocked! Chloe keeps going for the kids!
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2008, 09:43:22 PM »
Hand feed her Adele, great trust and bond builder, if not the kids then you.

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