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Cocker Specific Discussion => Genetics & Breeding => Topic started by: amanda.seal on July 02, 2008, 09:38:25 PM
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I was wandering if it would be ok for me to get in touch with marley's breeder as the name is on his vac's record card, or do you think i should leave it? :-\ It would be lovely to know his roots and pedigree and even try and find sibling near by if there are any. I'm new to all of this and not sure whether to go ahead or not. ph34r
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why dont you post his ped on here to see if there are any siblings on here? thats how i found my boys bro's x
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all i have for him is his vac record card with the breeders name and address on it, apart from that i have nothing. :-\
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oh bum well that wont work then will it, sorry :-\
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Is that the breeders name and address or the first owners name and address. Ours for Maisy is my name etc because I had her vacs done not the breeder??
If it is the breeder I would write to them and send a photo of him, hopefully they will reply.
Glad to hear all is well with you and Marley :luv:
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I am presuming it is the breeders as it has his age down at 6weeks and that would be too young to be in first home, wouldn't it? Do you think i should contact them and see if they reply?
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I believe 6 weeks is too early to be in a new home, so it may be that the breeder had the vac done. But, at my vets they do them at 8 and 12 weeks only. I dont really understand all that but someone else will probably confirm or unconfirm this!
I would write to them to see if you could find out any information on him. They can only ignore you cant they, if they cant be bothered.
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Amanda my first rescue cocker Rosie, i knew nothing of her background and got in touch with her breeder by the details on her papers etc, and she was lovely! Go for it! :D
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Thanks, i'll write to her tomorrow and get a pic printed to send with the letter. It would be lovely to know more. :D
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I ended up getting Rosie's pedigree changed over into my name too! Although i can find all the bits of paper, i cant find the actual certificate with everything on! >:( Thinking i lost in when i moved house? Or its in the attic and wont be seen till i next move house! ::)
Yes id just write and explain the story - what do you know about Marley's previous owners?
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Jasper was 9 months old when we acquired him but I had his papers passed on so found out about another owner and his breeder and contacted them both. It revealed a whole history of events in his short life to that point.
The breeder was really pleased to find out where Jasper had gone too and I've seen her a few times since, she's always been most helpful and I'm sure if I had a problem, she'd help me in the same way that she would someone who had bought a puppy direct from her. :D
OK you might not have the same response but what have you to lose ;)
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For some reason some rescues won't pass on papers. I don't know the reason for this as it would be nice to know the ancestory behind the dog. I think they destroy the papers if they have them :-\ I got a vac card with Monty but with the previous owners name crossed off. I can understand this as you can't really go asking them questions. Hope you do find out Marley's ancestory.
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The 6 week vaccinations certainly sound like they would have been done by the breeder, so I would say go for it - you have nothing to lose. They may not be interested in the slightest :'( but at least you will know you have tried, but they may be delighted to get an update on their pup and to know that he has found his forever home :D - you won't know the reaction until you try.
Honey had her first vaccinations at 6 weeks (by the breeder) - it depends on the vets and brand of vaccine when they are given, I think... ;)
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thanks, i'll try and get in touch with them and see what happens :D
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thanks, i'll try and get in touch with them and see what happens :D
Good luck, hope it works out :luv:
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Thanks everyone i'll let you know if they reply to me. :D
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Yeah, defo try and get in touch.. I hounded the breeder and previous owner for any details I could get on my rehome and it was well worth it - they have both been extremely helpful and I've also now got pics of her parents details about their temperaments etc and I know I can always get in touch if I have any queries in the future too.
Good luck, let us know how you get on!
Hannah xx
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Personally I wouldn't be trying to contact previous owners as there's often a reason why rescue centres don't want new owners to do this
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Personally I wouldn't be trying to contact previous owners as there's often a reason why rescue centres don't want new owners to do this
Just to clarify, I did rehome my dog privately - which is why I had access to the owner. But I made contact with my dogs breeder independently and would do it again. Our situation worked extremely well and helped me understand my dog a lot. I am aware that private rehomes can be problematic also though so I guess we (including her original owner) were all very lucky to find each other.
Hannah x
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I was talking about in the rescue situation not the free ads --- we will always allow 3rd party contact, ie if old owner wants to know how their old dog is getting on then they go through the rescue who sends pictures and info on that way. It can sometimes cause all sorts of problems otherwise (it has been known for old owner to pester new owner to get the dog back!). Some council pounds won't even rehome some dogs in the area they found them in
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I was talking about in the rescue situation not the free ads --- we will always allow 3rd party contact, ie if old owner wants to know how their old dog is getting on then they go through the rescue who sends pictures and info on that way. It can sometimes cause all sorts of problems otherwise (it has been known for old owner to pester new owner to get the dog back!). Some council pounds won't even rehome some dogs in the area they found them in
Yeah I was warned (by Weimaraner rescue) about the possibility of the owner wanting the dog back if I did it privately too. I spent a lot of time talking to her and visiting before I agreed to take the dog to try and understand the motivation behind it all as well as poss but I was aware it could have gone wrong and decided on balance it was a risk I could take. She made it very clear she didn't want any money for her and would only let her go to a home she felt was right for the dog - so she visited me too. She also agreed to take the dog back if after an agreed time I didn't feel it was working out as she genuinely wanted the best for Norms.. but I know I was extremely lucky there!
Do rescues advise against contacting the breeders also if so what are the reasons behind that?
Hannah x
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I was talking about in the rescue situation not the free ads --- we will always allow 3rd party contact, ie if old owner wants to know how their old dog is getting on then they go through the rescue who sends pictures and info on that way. It can sometimes cause all sorts of problems otherwise (it has been known for old owner to pester new owner to get the dog back!). Some council pounds won't even rehome some dogs in the area they found them in
Yeah I was warned (by Weimaraner rescue) about the possibility of the owner wanting the dog back if I did it privately too. I spent a lot of time talking to her and visiting before I agreed to take the dog to try and understand the motivation behind it all as well as poss but I was aware it could have gone wrong and decided on balance it was a risk I could take. She made it very clear she didn't want any money for her and would only let her go to a home she felt was right for the dog - so she visited me too. She also agreed to take the dog back if after an agreed time I didn't feel it was working out as she genuinely wanted the best for Norms.. but I know I was extremely lucky there!
Do rescues advise against contacting the breeders also if so what are the reasons behind that?
Hannah x
we never give the details out --- at the end of the day the reason why some of those dogs are in rescue is because of irresponsible breeders so they may be at issue there. Whether people agree with that or not I don't think some rescues care (lets face it a responsible breeder should take thier dogs back but not all will and leave the rescue centres to mop up)
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Guess every situation is different, I'd have had a lot more trouble with Norms if I hadn't been able to talk to the previous owner or breeder but I can understand why it generally isn't recommended by rescues.
Hannah x
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Guess every situation is different, I'd have had a lot more trouble with Norms if I hadn't been able to talk to the previous owner or breeder but I can understand why it generally isn't recommended by rescues.
Hannah x
also even when we get dogs in from owners they will often not tell the truth or are economical with it so while it can be useful to know we have to use our experience to deal with the dog (sometimes the dog can be far better than owners have suggested and other times far worse either in temperament or health)
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I've decided not to get in touch with them, I love Marley where-ever he came from :luv: It would be nice to know more about him but its not the be all and end all :-\
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Awwwwww, I guess the history he will make with you is more important than that of his pervious life......which he will prob want to forget anyways!!
Good luck with Marley.....he is beeeeeeautiful! :luv: