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Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 21, 2005, 09:50:46 PM
:huh: hi, i am so impressed with the efforts some people take to find there pets family tree, i would love to do montys tree but only have his sire & dam names,
   

         monty,s reg name; LIGHTNING ZORO

                       dam      ; JAFARE ROYAL CHANTRESS

                        sire      ; JAFARE GOLDEN RAINBOW

      is it possible to go any further . thank you          

                                                        :rolleyes:  
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: Jane S on January 21, 2005, 10:58:15 PM
I'm afraid it's not easy to trace pedigrees if there are no well-known affixes involved - Monty's Mum & Dad came from a commercial kennel whose lines do eventually go back to better known show lines such as Cardamine. I believe there is also some Working Cocker breeding being used by this particular commercial kennel so Monty could be a blend of both types.

Jane
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 21, 2005, 11:11:29 PM
:rolleyes: thank you so much for that imformation that may explain why monty is so tall
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: workingcockers on January 22, 2005, 12:41:32 AM
J Golden Rainbow is Cardamine Bracken Brown x Jafare Sweetheart

C Bracken Brown = Cardamine Catchphrase x Cardamine chococcino

Jafare Sweetheart= Pierrot Morning Glory x tansy Lass

cardamine catchphrase= C jaffa King x C Cinnamon

cardamine chococcio= C Just Dandy x C Cappuccino

Pierrot Morning Glory = Helleborus Thunderbug x Ocean Pearl

Tansy Lass= Cardamine Jaffa King x Cardamine Velvet Tansy

if you give me the BRS code on your reg document for the dam - will have her name then something like this in brackets (AC2) or (AD1), Ill have a look as I havent had much time over last year or 2 to update my database but sure her parents will be on it if I manually look up who they are in the paper copy of the BRS
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: workingcockers on January 22, 2005, 12:44:12 AM
if you want, once have found the code after dams name, I can print you off a five gen pedigree, or alternatively, you can order from the kcs web site - they have an online facility for ordering pedigrees.
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: Jane S on January 22, 2005, 09:20:03 AM
Does Monty have his registration certificate then? I assumed as a rehome, he wouldn't as most rescues don't pass paperwork on to new owners.

Jane

 
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: workingcockers on January 22, 2005, 11:09:19 AM
ah sorry = didnt realise he was a rehome and that you might not have the paperwork..if you dont, leave it with me and sometime this weekend I;ll have a look to see when his dam was born and take it from there...
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 22, 2005, 11:21:56 AM
:D wow!!!! how good is that, this site and its members are just brilliant, love coming on here just to read fantastic.
   we got monty thanks to this site somone passed us imfo, and we acted quickly
 the last owners had problems with monty, lovely people, but we sorted him he is just brilliant.

                sire; ref  ( y04 )

                dam; ref  (z02 )

                you very kind thank you  best regards  ALAN & NESS
 


                     
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: mum of kimmi on January 22, 2005, 05:11:35 PM
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Monty's Mum & Dad came from a commercial kennel

 
Is this the Jafare Cockers nr Ely?
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 22, 2005, 05:20:07 PM
:huh: not sure , address on papers ,is loughton milton keynes.
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: workingcockers on January 22, 2005, 07:54:55 PM
Alan - Ill get back to you with dams side of pedigree in a couple of hours -spending some time with teenage son albeit watching a DVD as feeling rather neglected due to recent doggy events!! I; post finding here and if you want to PM me, I;ll send you a 5 gen some time in next couple of days with colours etc as a JPEG - leave your email addy for me..
regards

Kirsten
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 22, 2005, 09:03:02 PM
:D HI, KIRSTEN, I HAVE SENT PM LET ME KNOW IF YOU RECEIVE IT NOT THAT GOOD ON COMPUTER SORRY.  
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: Jane S on January 22, 2005, 11:33:21 PM
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Is this the Jafare Cockers nr Ely

Yes it is but Monty wasn't bred there - his parents were.


Jane
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: workingcockers on January 23, 2005, 09:35:56 AM
for anyone following the thread, Im going to email Alan sometime later with a 5 gen pedigree but the dams breeding is Jerasa Mahongony Marquetry of Delfleet (that is how mahogany is spelt on the reg) x jafare Silver lady. Breeding is from Cardamine/Lindridge/Normanview...

cheer for now

K
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 23, 2005, 12:53:59 PM
:D we will be so proud to have this kirsten has been so helpful cant thank her enough excellent col member. :D  
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 23, 2005, 01:59:31 PM
:D  :D  :D kirsten has just sent montys 5 generation history so proud thanx again
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on January 23, 2005, 06:51:31 PM
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Tansy Lass= Cardamine Jaffa King x Cardamine Velvet Tansy

if you give me the BRS code on your reg document for the dam - will have her name then something like this in brackets (AC2) or (AD1), Ill have a look as I havent had much time over last year or 2 to update my database but sure her parents will be on it if I manually look up who they are in the paper copy of the BRS
Cardamine Velvet Tansy is Abby's Great Grandmother on her mother side :D

Michelle
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 23, 2005, 07:04:26 PM
:o HOW LOVELEY THIS IS WHAT I WANTED THIS IMFO FOR I FIND IT FACINATING , WHAT IS ABBY,S  KENNEL NAME & WHAT COLOUR :D  
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on January 23, 2005, 07:38:17 PM
Abby is 9 months old and Black (see my Avatar).  Her show name is Princess Vegas she doesn't have an Affix :( Long story) but she has lots of Cardamine in her pedigree.  Yes it is always nice to spot relatives :D

Michelle

 
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: jilly on January 31, 2005, 11:24:30 AM
Ronnie is a Jafare Cocker i will have to find out his Sire & Dam also .
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on January 31, 2005, 09:09:09 PM
:D Hi , please do that would be interesting. :D  
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: jilly on January 31, 2005, 10:20:41 PM
Ronnie's Registered Name is Diggory Dale

Sire is Citronette Hint Of Shlomo

Dam is Jafare Shadows Of Ebony

Im just waiting for the 5 generation pedigree paperwork to come through.

 
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: Millie's mum on February 03, 2005, 11:51:16 AM
It seems Millie and Monty are related - Jerasa Mahogany marquetry of Delfleet,Jafare Silver lady,Pierot Morning Glory and Tansy lass are her 4 G.Grandparents on her dam's side
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on February 03, 2005, 08:50:59 PM
:D HI, MILLIES MUM, THATS WANDERFUL, WHAT IS MLLIES KENNEL NAME AND HOW OLD :D  
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: Millie's mum on February 04, 2005, 03:06:48 PM
Millie's official name is 'Chocolate Heaven' and she's 21mths old, chocolate & white and frequently gets mistaken for a Springer!
 
Title: Monty,s Family Tree
Post by: alan&ness on February 04, 2005, 05:56:08 PM
:D He sounds lovely, Monty has long legs must be in there parents. Being same grand parents.Great talking !!  :D