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What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« on: May 14, 2008, 10:58:35 PM »
Hi, I am new to this forum and having been reading with interest peoples comments on what cockers are like.
There seems to be a conflict on the forum, with all the general write ups on the breed in books that I have read.  The books say the cocker is a great family pet, easily trainable, well behaved, not overally vocal and is happy to be quiet indoors but energetic outdoors, yet on the forum most of the posts i have read seem to be saying they are hard work, very vocal, naughty and very energetic inside and out.  Can anyone tell me what the most common charateristics of a show type cocker spaniel are?

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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 11:03:41 PM »
You may find this helpful as a starter http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=40635.msg609824#new

Like the news, you tend to read the items about problems people have rather than the ones where life is quiet  ;)  They can't be all bad or all of us wouldn't have one (and a lot of us have 2 plus). Or maybe our dogs haven't read the right manuals  :005:

Edited to say mine definately don't fit into the nice quiet, trot along versions  ph34r


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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 11:12:09 PM »
Hi, I am new to this forum and having been reading with interest peoples comments on what cockers are like.
There seems to be a conflict on the forum, with all the general write ups on the breed in books that I have read.  The books say the cocker is a great family pet, easily trainable, well behaved, not overally vocal and is happy to be quiet indoors but energetic outdoors, yet on the forum most of the posts i have read seem to be saying they are hard work, very vocal, naughty and very energetic inside and out.  Can anyone tell me what the most common charateristics of a show type cocker spaniel are?

Welcome to COL  :D

Coco is a show-type cocker and from my own experience I would agree more with the description you have found on the forum rather than the books  ;)  A cocker is not a lap dog and is not always an easy breed to manage.  They need to be kept stimulated mentally or they find their own entertainment  ::)  You need to be prepared to put in the time and effort to train your dog but that is the case with any breed really.   ;)   If you want a dog that is happy with a trot round the block a couple of times a day and to sit quietly indoors the rest of the time, then a cocker is certainly not the best choice.  They are usually intelligent and can be trained (not always easily  ::)) but they do have a wilfull streak, or mine does, which means that she does not always do what I want her to.   >:(  But they are great little characters and if you are lucky you will have a little buddy who is the best companion in the world!  :luv:  Coco is my first dog and boy was it a baptism of fire  :o  but I would not be without her now - just love her to bits  :luv: :luv:
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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 11:37:48 PM »
I have had Cockers for almost thirty years now.  My third Cocker, Charley, was ten in January.  He, like the others were, is a show type, and he is a lovely dog.  He has never been a moment's bother and he has a beautiful nature.

Much depends on how much time and effort you are prepared to devote to your Cocker.  They crave human company and are affectionate and faithful.  Charley goes everywhere with me and is almost never left home alone.  Cockers are bright and manipulative: it's impossible to resist their blandishments.

Yes, they are vocal and energetic, but they are not naughty if you bring them up properly.  They are quick to learn and love to please. 

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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 09:02:35 AM »
i think you may have slightly got the wrong idea from this forum, a lot of people use it as a helping tool to post topics on the problems they are experiencing how ever minor to get the help and experience from others but if you do read through you'll also find many posts from people beaming about how well their cocker has done recently.

i think no matter what kind of dog you get you will always have to put time and effort into training and looking after them and allow for some adjustment to your lives. Puppies will be puppies and not at all like the calm relaxed adult dogs you see trotting along with their owners in the park but the fun part is teaching them that. Our cocker Cassie is just turning 4 months now and has been an absolute pleasure, dont get it me wrong there was a time for about the first week where i wondered what the hell i'd gotten myself into but i now realise what a traumatic experience it must have been for her leaving her litter and coming to a new house with new people and it took her awhile to adjust. I know i've posted on here a few times about leaving cassie for several hours a day while we're at work and its not ideal but its the way things are we couldnt afford to keep her in the lifestyle she's become accustomed to otherwise :005: but we got her used to being alone from day one (gradually building up the time) and she's fine now, even when we're not at work i'll sometimes put her in the pen as i would do when i'm going to work so i can get things done around the house and there isnt a peep out of her.

this is the first dog we've owned (apart from our parents dogs) and we chose a cocker after much research, i suppose it depends on what you are looking for in a dog, if it is a lap dog then i dont think a cocker is for you but if you want something that will be so eager to please, is quick to learn and has a degree of intelligence then a cocker is for you but beware those eyes will stop you from any sort of punishment no matter how strict you are :luv:



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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 09:25:24 AM »
I don't think it's possible to say that there are certain characteristics which all show-type Cockers share - first and foremost they are individuals and their personality traits can vary depending on many things eg breeding, socialisation, level of training etc. Also people's perception of how "difficult" a dog is can depend on their own level of experience. If you've not had a dog before, then any puppy (whatever the breed) can come as a shock if you're not prepared for the demands on your time & the hard work involved in training one. I do think that some new owners are completely unaware of the chaos a puppy brings - they expect house training to take days not weeks and that a pup will automatically understand English and know when they have done "wrong". It can take time to realise the reality is very different :D

That's not to say that some show-type dogs are not more demanding than others (show breeders know themselves that certain lines might be renowned for being noisy or more hyper than other lines) but you can't generalise and say because some owners experience problems that all show-types are hard work because they're not ;) My own dogs are perfectly happy to sit around quietly during the day and then spring into action when they know they're going out - they don't bounce off the walls if they don't get x amount of exercise a day and are generally a pleasure to live with. Of course they sometimes can be stubborn and do what they're not supposed to do but that's part of their charm - I've never wanted robot dogs :005:

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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 09:45:12 AM »
I think it's been said before that people don't tend to post threads when their cocker is just being a cocker  ;), its when a problem arises that they call on fellow COLers for help & advise.

I didn't have Max from a pup (he was 10 months) & he's also my 1st dog (so I'm not qualified to compare against other breeds) but glad to say he generally fits into the description you've read in books.  He's not vocal (only at agility  ;)), he loves to learn - although that's probably down to the fact that it involves food & he is extremely greedy, he's eager to please, but can also be sooo stubborn - I think this may be a cocker trait but he also loves to be up-close-and-personal  :luv:

I also believe that once you've had a cocker, you'll want another  :luv:

ETA:   Like anything, you get out what you put in & it goes without saying that training is a MUST
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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 09:50:49 AM »
Hello,

Welcome to the forum!  :D

I totally agree with Jane, I've had two cockers now over 7 years and they've both been an absolute pleasure to live with... but that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of work involved. However, that's part of the reason I enjoy having dogs  :D I love getting out and getting muddy with them (most days  ph34r) and I love cuddling up with them at the end of the day. I love what happens when you put time and effort into positive training, I love watching my son playing with them and the dogs enjoying it as much as he does and I love learning how to understand and communicate with dogs. They are not like us, they're not our 'babies'... you can't apply human rules to cockers and it would be unfair to expect a different species to understand how to live with us without us putting a lot of time into working with them and accepting that they will trash our homes occasionally and will require a daily level of input and commitment from us.

In answer to your characteristics question, I've had two show cockers and they have been very different in a lot of ways. One was extremely hyper and very emotionally needy and not relaxing to live with at all... but had the kindest heart, was bomb proof with children and dished out more love and affection than anyone could believe and made us laugh so much every day. My current cocker at only 1 year is totally the opposite.. he's very very calm, has the biggest bravest heart and will give anything a go but has a mischievous 'bandit' streak - we love it to be honest. Yesterday my five year old was wearing his favorite cap and my cocker was shadowing him quietly around the garden... as soon as my son bent down my cocker pounced and stole my sons hat from his head then shot off and started trying to bury it... we can live quite happily with that kind of 'naughtiness'  :D ;) The one thing he shares with his predecessor is that he also dishes out bucket loads of love and affection.

Cockers are vibrant, affectionate, very easy to train (but definitely not robots as Jane mentioned  :005:), they love life and do make wonderful, easy and great family pets as long as they are included and owners are prepared to put lots of time into their training and needs not just expect them to fit around their pre-dog lifestyles... but it's the same for any dog I'd suggest  :-\

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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 10:03:27 AM »
Hi, I am new to this forum and having been reading with interest peoples comments on what cockers are like.
There seems to be a conflict on the forum, with all the general write ups on the breed in books that I have read.  The books say the cocker is a great family pet, easily trainable, well behaved, not overally vocal and is happy to be quiet indoors but energetic outdoors, yet on the forum most of the posts i have read seem to be saying they are hard work, very vocal, naughty and very energetic inside and out.  Can anyone tell me what the most common charateristics of a show type cocker spaniel are?

Welcome to the forum!  :D
My show cocker is a great pet and can fit the description you have read in the books, however she also fits the forum description too at times  :005: Both descriptions apply - remember on forums people only tend to post issues they are having - not many of us post to say our dogs have had been great and well behaved today!!  :D

Each dog (whatever the breed) has its own character and personality and will respond the external enviroment it is exposed to when growing up......

My show cocker is very quiet in the house, not that vocal, not naughty or energenitic in the house as long as she is exercised properly and given the stimulus she requires. This is training, playing, running etc etc.

Cockers are defintely not lap dogs and do require time and attention to make them into good pets - the first 2 years are the worst  :005:

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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 10:08:08 AM »
Hello,

Welcome to the forum!  :D

I totally agree with Jane, I've had two cockers now over 7 years and they've both been an absolute pleasure to live with... but that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot of work involved. However, that's part of the reason I enjoy having dogs  :D I love getting out and getting muddy with them (most days  ph34r) and I love cuddling up with them at the end of the day. I love what happens when you put time and effort into positive training, I love watching my son playing with them and the dogs enjoying it as much as he does and I love learning how to understand and communicate with dogs. They are not like us, they're not our 'babies'... you can't apply human rules to cockers and it would be unfair to expect a different species to understand how to live with us without us putting a lot of time into working with them and accepting that they will trash our homes occasionally and will require a daily level of input and commitment from us.

In answer to your characteristics question, I've had two show cockers and they have been very different in a lot of ways. One was extremely hyper and very emotionally needy and not relaxing to live with at all... but had the kindest heart, was bomb proof with children and dished out more love and affection than anyone could believe and made us laugh so much every day. My current cocker at only 1 year is totally the opposite.. he's very very calm, has the biggest bravest heart and will give anything a go but has a mischievous 'bandit' streak - we love it to be honest. Yesterday my five year old was wearing his favorite cap and my cocker was shadowing him quietly around the garden... as soon as my son bent down my cocker pounced and stole my sons hat from his head then shot off and started trying to bury it... we can live quite happily with that kind of 'naughtiness'  :D ;) The one thing he shares with his predecessor is that he also dishes out bucket loads of love and affection.

Cockers are vibrant, affectionate, very easy to train (but definitely not robots as Jane mentioned  :005:), they love life and do make wonderful, easy and great family pets as long as they are included and owners are prepared to put lots of time into their training and needs not just expect them to fit around their pre-dog lifestyles... but it's the same for any dog I'd suggest  :-\

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Oh...I already have one! :005:



I agree with all of the above. We have only had one cocker and he is our first dog, but we often congratulate ourselves on making a good choice for us. He will walk for hours, he plays and learns new tricks well, but then when we sit down we have a cuddle monster who just wants to be with us.

We also, often, say we should have stuck with goldfish as they don't tend to run in mud and bring it into the house, they don't smell of rank ditch and never ever roll in fox poo. But then, they don't have much character either.


The fact is, we are all, generally, cocker fans on here. Really, yoou just need to look at your lifestyle and your home and work from there. When we were doing our research we found a few sites which helped by linking your profile with various dog breeds, but it is only a rough guide as all dogs are different even within a breed.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 10:46:12 AM »
I agree with annette we too used alot of those comparison websites were it asks you lots of different questions about your lifestyle, your home, level of activity and what you want for a dog then it gives you a list of what breeds will be best suited to your situation, time and time again cockers came up for us and ever since we started reseaching them every other dog we say was a cocker so it was fate.

our wee puppy was such a big shock to us having not realised just how dependent they are but its great watching her grow and learn by herself, you become like a dotting parent and non dog people think your mad!



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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 01:54:42 PM »
Our last dogwalker used to say that he'd found cockers fall into one of two camps - "laidback" and "manic". I think generally for the first few years in my experience they tend to be fairly manic.

We have two cockers, Bella (3 and a bit) and Zorro (20 months). Bella was an only dog until she was almost two years old, and by that stage was turning into a real shuffler around the park, great recall, well behaved in the house, not particularly noisy and pretty good all round I'd say. Then Zorro came along and turned her life upside down and she's now taking his lead as a manic little thing, gets herself in more trouble than he does around the house (she's a dreadful thief, raiding bins, pockets, bags, you name it and looking simply gleeful when caught  ph34r :lol2:). They both bark a fair bit, they both need a fair bit of work to keep their mischievious ways under wraps, but they are the loveliest dogs in my world and I'd not be without them. :luv:

I think you have to bear in mind that they are very intelligent dogs, so although they are small and they love to sit on your lap for a cuddle (most of 'em anyway  ;)), they do need mental as well as physical stimulation. My two get an average of an hour and a half in terms of offlead walks each day (usually a bit more in the summer and they're happy to go for much longer walks). They also get training sessions most days and I take them both to agility classes. Cockers are a lovely breed but I would say you do need a fair bit of commitment in terms of putting in their training - they are quite strong willed so you sometimes find yourself battling with those little gorgeous noddles of theirs and I know for a fact that Bella has me completely well trained in the art of handing out sausage when she's walking to heel  :lol2:

I would recommend you do lots of reading on here in all the different sections (particularly puppies and behaviour) as you will get a pretty good feel for them from that.

Good luck whatever you decide!  ;)
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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 04:12:22 PM »
I only have one cocker, she is a little 2 year old  :luv:
If she came with a user manual there are a few words which would be constantly repeated

Food 
Cuddles
Loving
Naughty
Gobby
Food

oh yes and 'bunny chasing'  :005:


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Re: What a Cocker Spaniels (show type) like as a pet?
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 05:29:39 PM »
I love cocker spaniels.  However they are all individuals and  even in the same litter can vary greatly in  dog to dog despite being siblings.
 within a litter you may get varying degrees of temperament. the only thing Id advise on is to ensure you get a  fairly confident pup. the one that hangs back in the box when you go to see it may be timid. you also may not want the pup that comes shoving its way over to you first as he or she may be overconfident and if you are a first time owner, be a bit of a handful. get yourself a reputable breeder and see what her own dogs are like with you and children .. other animals ie cats. In my opinion breeding for temperament is as important as  health testing . Be guided by the breeder, if they are reputable they will try their best to match you up with a pup that will suit you.
 Im not a great expert on the show type cocker but  the above applies to any breed of dog.

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2008, 05:58:05 PM »

i have 2...so there must be something good about them  ;)..i have only ever had one dog at a time before... but 1 cocker is never enough  :005:
they are lovely dogs....they really do know how to give love  :luv:...my 2 are completely different..both show types...but there personalities are not alike at all... so really does depend on the individual dog and not just on the breed  ;)
They love to learn..they love to be outdoors...except when its raining  ::)...they love water and mud  :o they love people...to me they just love life and it shows on there faces  :luv:
as everyone else has said if you have the time and commitment they make great companions and friends...i wouldn't be without mine  ;)