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Cocker Specific Discussion => Puppies => Topic started by: bmthmark on April 26, 2017, 04:24:27 PM
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I'm really struggling with this one and I know its been discussed a lot but i'm hoping you maybe able to offer me some advice.
My puppy is 6 months old and overall a very well behaved pup.
I'm not sure if its a habit but when I take him out he will always manage to find a used tissue and attempt to eat. I say attempt as I am always looking out and I will most of the time get to them before he does.
This morning he managed to get to 2 tissues before me, he then uses his paws to shred the tissue and then swallows as much as possible. This is done at record speed and most of the time its done before I can even attempt to swap with a treat.
I don't know if he thinks its a game and he gets a treat after, I really don't know. I don't like to just grab from his mouth as I don't want him to think I am taking the things he has found (hence the swap).
I've even tried giving him a stick to carry, which he does until he finds a tissue >:D
At times he has literally swallowed large full tissues, I worry as surely this cannot be good for his insides.
Do you think this is something he will grow out of? he just seems so obsessed with tissues.
I know its a small issue in comparison to some but any help much appreciated.
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Dogs have stronger stomach acid than we do, so I imagine any tissue will dissolve pretty quickly and not cause any blockage.
It is a disgusting habit, though. Henry still picks up tissues when we are out, but now offers them immediately for a swap, whereas when he was little he wouldn't give them up for anything. So there is hope!
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Eze is same, tissues socks tea towel you leave it out she has it.
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Dogs have stronger stomach acid than we do, so I imagine any tissue will dissolve pretty quickly and not cause any blockage.
It is a disgusting habit, though. Henry still picks up tissues when we are out, but now offers them immediately for a swap, whereas when he was little he wouldn't give them up for anything. So there is hope!
Thanks let's hope mine does the same
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Eze is same, tissues socks tea towel you leave it out she has it.
At home we try not to leave anything in his reach that he isn't allowed. I only seem to have issues when we are out, where people have dropped rubbish.
I suppose at least he is helping the environment :lol2:
The state of some of the tissues does make me wander why he wants it in his mouth :020:
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I don't think they're particularly harmful but it is pretty disgusting, Humphrey also finds them delicious! :020:
Word of warning about encouraging him to carry sticks though, they can cause nasty injuries e,g. if they're running with them and get caught. Maybe you could keep a toy or ball or similar in your pocket instead?
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Oops, socks on radiator disaster. Yep she got two, now there are two halves. Mrs ips not impressed by my attempt at domestic god....apparently I should have put them upstairs on daughters radiator...oops
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I don't think they're particularly harmful but it is pretty disgusting, Humphrey also finds them delicious! :020:
Word of warning about encouraging him to carry sticks though, they can cause nasty injuries e,g. if they're running with them and get caught. Maybe you could keep a toy or ball or similar in your pocket instead?
I know what you mean regarding the sticks as he tends to try and turn it around so its literally pointing out of the mouth, which is dangerous if it gets caught in the ground. I just have to make sure its only a small stick.
He has never really been that bothered about toys/balls. He prefers to go for things he isn't allowed >:D
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Oops, socks on radiator disaster. Yep she got two, now there are two halves. Mrs ips not impressed by my attempt at domestic god....apparently I should have put them upstairs on daughters radiator...oops
At least you had a go :lol2:
I'm amazed how quick this little monsters can grab something and destroy it within seconds :005:
I normally know my pup is up to no good when he is not following me, I will then find him under the table destroying something he has just found :D
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
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I get REALLY angry about people dropping cigarette butts everywhere, they can be gobbled up in seconds and I would imagine they're really not very healthy >:D
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I get REALLY angry about people dropping cigarette butts everywhere, they can be gobbled up in seconds and I would imagine they're really not very healthy >:D
I should think the filters might cause a blockage but the rest is just paper and dried leaves. I think eating them is a lot healthier then smoking them!
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I get REALLY angry about people dropping cigarette butts everywhere, they can be gobbled up in seconds and I would imagine they're really not very healthy >:D
I should think the filters might cause a blockage but the rest is just paper and dried leaves. I think eating them is a lot healthier then smoking them!
The filters have filtered a lot of the nasty stuff out of tobacco so they'd be full of nicotine, its my understanding that they're poisonous, but I've no idea how much......
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Just found this
http://www.petplace.com/article/dogs/first-aid-for-dogs/toxins-poisons/nicotine-toxicity-in-dogs
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I get REALLY angry about people dropping cigarette butts everywhere, they can be gobbled up in seconds and I would imagine they're really not very healthy >:D
I should think the filters might cause a blockage but the rest is just paper and dried leaves. I think eating them is a lot healthier then smoking them!
The filters have filtered a lot of the nasty stuff out of tobacco so they'd be full of nicotine, its my understanding that they're poisonous, but I've no idea how much......
I didn't realise they were so bad, perhaps my pup knows they are are bad as he seems to leave these alone.
Last night I started a new training plan, I purposely dropped a tissue at home. He then ran towards it and I told him to 'leave it' lots of times and then finally rewarded him when he left it.
I'm hoping if I keep doing this he may start to leave them when we are out.
These cockers are funny creatures :lol2:
Fingers crossed
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That's a good idea. I'm finding the "leave" command is slowly starting to kick in, Humphrey actually dropped a large lump of goat pooh the other day, which was a major breakthrough!!! ..... :005:
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Just found this
http://www.petplace.com/article/dogs/first-aid-for-dogs/toxins-poisons/nicotine-toxicity-in-dogs
Yikes! Thanks for the info.
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Charlie goes for till receipts that fall out of carrier bags after I've been shopping. He holds them between his front paws and shreds em with his front teeth, luckily he doesn't swallow them but spits out what he tears off.
I think it's the feel of the paper ripping he likes.
As for swallowing stuff he will swallow stuff he finds while out walking unless i can get it off him quick, he's even picked up dog poo before now and tried to eat it. I've shouted NO and opened his mouth and got whatevers in there out.
Being here in Blackpool visitors throw all sorts on the floor so i have to be assertive and make him drop it straight away.
What really annoys me though is other dog owners not picking up their dog dirt especially in the middle of the pavement where kids play. It seems especially bad round my area grrrr
Rob.
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Charlie goes for till receipts that fall out of carrier bags after I've been shopping. He holds them between his front paws and shreds em with his front teeth, luckily he doesn't swallow them but spits out what he tears off.
I think it's the feel of the paper ripping he likes.
As for swallowing stuff he will swallow stuff he finds while out walking unless i can get it off him quick, he's even picked up dog poo before now and tried to eat it. I've shouted NO and opened his mouth and got whatevers in there out.
Being here in Blackpool visitors throw all sorts on the floor so i have to be assertive and make him drop it straight away.
What really annoys me though is other dog owners not picking up their dog dirt especially in the middle of the pavement where kids play. It seems especially bad round my area grrrr
Rob.
Have you tried training the leave command? Sometimes, taking stuff out of their mouths might really be the only way if they've got something harmful but its better to avoid doing it, if you can, it can cause them to guard it even more or even get defensive and unpleasant. If you can try swapping whatever he has for something else, train leave or drop, that would be a better alternative. ;)
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Haha this thread has distracted me from what i came on to look at! Bentley LOVES tissues and can spot them at 100 paces. Despite being the greediest dog in the world (I expect some challenges on that point) swapping tissues (and till receipts, coal, charcoal, twigs...) for treats is not easy. You can see him thinking 'I want this tissue AND that treat - is there a way I can get the treat without releasing my hold on the lovely tissue?' He has consumed quite a lot of the above and I have given up trying to clear everything from his mouth as it can be quite risky after a point! Plus if you need to get your fingers in there then the treat is only going to help him swallow some of it.
Right, off to look up about green eye mucus now :)
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I currently have the cold from hell. Every time I blow my nose Archie comes running to try to get the tissue. :020: Judging by this thread I'm surprised I haven't got a little queue of cockers outside my door!!
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I currently have the cold from hell. Every time I blow my nose Archie comes running to try to get the tissue. :020: Judging by this thread I'm surprised I haven't got a little queue of cockers outside my door!!
I have same cold had over a week now and I never have a cold for more than two days. Its not so much the tissue thing but the sneezing. She goes absolutely mad if you sneeze, jumping all over you.
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I currently have the cold from hell. Every time I blow my nose Archie comes running to try to get the tissue. :020: Judging by this thread I'm surprised I haven't got a little queue of cockers outside my door!!
I have same cold had over a week now and I never have a cold for more than two days. Its not so much the tissue thing but the sneezing. She goes absolutely mad if you sneeze, jumping all over you.
This made me laugh! Reese has to shred any tissue and when he is at my mum's he steals them out of dad's pocket when he thinks he can get away with ig. He also goes made if anyone cough' s or sneeze, we call him nurse
Reese as he has to jump all over you giving you kisses. :005:
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
Luckily Diesel hasn't realised the yumminess of horse poop yet which is great as I have horses so he'd have easy access :005:
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
Luckily Diesel hasn't realised the yumminess of horse poop yet which is great as I have horses so he'd have easy access :005:
:lol2: you are very lucky
I've seen a few dogs eating horse poop, it was literally a feast for them. I've notice quite a few dog owners leaving the dogs to it, so I suppose it can't be too bad for them.
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
Luckily Diesel hasn't realised the yumminess of horse poop yet which is great as I have horses so he'd have easy access :005:
:lol2: you are very lucky
I've seen a few dogs eating horse poop, it was literally a feast for them. I've notice quite a few dog owners leaving the dogs to it, so I suppose it can't be too bad for them.
If the horse has been treated with a wormer then it can be very dangerous for a dog to eat horse poo. I don't let Archie anywhere near it just in case.
https://rogueequine.com/horse-wormer-dangerous-to-pets/
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
Luckily Diesel hasn't realised the yumminess of horse poop yet which is great as I have horses so he'd have easy access :005:
:lol2: you are very lucky
I've seen a few dogs eating horse poop, it was literally a feast for them. I've notice quite a few dog owners leaving the dogs to it, so I suppose it can't be too bad for them.
Hmmmmm - not sure, there were warnings circulating here in Germany that horse poo could be dangerous if the horse had been recently wormed, - apparantly some dogs show a reactionto the worming treatment used for horses. No idea if its just panic stirring, I'd imagine the risks aren't that high, Humphrey's eaten it and it hasn't hurt him, (he's also had goat and cat poo ) but I do at least try and prevent him eating anything left by another animal, I certainly wouldn't just stand by and leave him to it... :020:.
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
Luckily Diesel hasn't realised the yumminess of horse poop yet which is great as I have horses so he'd have easy access :005:
:lol2: you are very lucky
I've seen a few dogs eating horse poop, it was literally a feast for them. I've notice quite a few dog owners leaving the dogs to it, so I suppose it can't be too bad for them.
Hmmmmm - not sure, there were warnings circulating here in Germany that horse poo could be dangerous if the horse had been recently wormed, - apparantly some dogs show a reactionto the worming treatment used for horses. No idea if its just panic stirring, I'd imagine the risks aren't that high, Humphrey's eaten it and it hasn't hurt him, (he's also had goat and cat poo ) but I do at least try and prevent him eating anything left by another animal, I certainly wouldn't just stand by and leave him to it... :020:.
I don't allow him to eat it, I look like a crazy man chasing him :005: sometimes I wander if Jett does it for a reaction from me >:(
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Diesel ate a slug the other day...he thought it was a treat >:(
They are sometimes really disgusting creatures aren't they
My last pup used to eat cigarette butts off the floor...gross!
Yes very disgusting :lol2:
Mine also has eaten cigarette butts, but he has stopped with them. He seems to like chewing gum that is stuck to the floor as well, but I get an extra few seconds warning with this as its usually stuck to the ground. His favorite is horse poo :020:
Luckily Diesel hasn't realised the yumminess of horse poop yet which is great as I have horses so he'd have easy access :005:
:lol2: you are very lucky
I've seen a few dogs eating horse poop, it was literally a feast for them. I've notice quite a few dog owners leaving the dogs to it, so I suppose it can't be too bad for them.
Hmmmmm - not sure, there were warnings circulating here in Germany that horse poo could be dangerous if the horse had been recently wormed, - apparantly some dogs show a reactionto the worming treatment used for horses. No idea if its just panic stirring, I'd imagine the risks aren't that high, Humphrey's eaten it and it hasn't hurt him, (he's also had goat and cat poo ) but I do at least try and prevent him eating anything left by another animal, I certainly wouldn't just stand by and leave him to it... :020:.
I don't allow him to eat it, I look like a crazy man chasing him :005: sometimes I wander if Jett does it for a reaction from me >:(
I think this is the problem, he now considers it to be a game and a jolly hoot. He gets hold of something he isn't allowed and then says "chase me" you chase him probably giving the command "give" or similar, he ignores command as the game is still ongoing thus enforcing the "give" command has no real meaning. You eventually corner him reach for the tissue or sock or whatever and acknowledging the game is over he swallows it....is that anything close to the scenario. ???
I can't stop eze getting hold of stuff but as she likes to retrieve and has been trained to give any item (usually 😁) on the command "dead" in the instance of a stolen item (yesterday it was lynns brand new knickers out of the washing machine) I tell her to "sit hup" and take the item on a "dead" command
I think that anyone with a dog that refuses to give contraband should first teach "hold" and then teach "give". Its a lot easier than running around trying to grab the item before dog eats it in panic 😉
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That's right on the money. I NEVER chase Henry for anything or react in the slightest, so there is no fun for him in running away with contraband. Most things he brings to me for a swap, and if he doesn't bring it straight away, he drops it the minute he sees my hand going to the treat jar.
This approach was a life saver recently when he found some cooked chicken bones in the park. He was a little distance away from me when I saw him lie down and start munching on something. Because we have no habit of chase in these circumstances, or me taking things from him (only him GIVING things to me) he didn't run off when I strolled over and I was able to put a hand on his harness, and pull out the long bones that were heading down his throat. Other dog owners were having a terrible time trying to get the bones off their dogs, trying and failing to chase them down. This wasn't a circumstance in which I expected Henry to voluntarily swap the contraband as it was such a high value food item. But because I very rarely take things from him, there was no problem doing it when I needed to.
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That's right on the money. I NEVER chase Henry for anything or react in the slightest, so there is no fun for him in running away with contraband. Most things he brings to me for a swap, and if he doesn't bring it straight away, he drops it the minute he sees my hand going to the treat jar.
This approach was a life saver recently when he found some cooked chicken bones in the park. He was a little distance away from me when I saw him lie down and start munching on something. Because we have no habit of chase in these circumstances, or me taking things from him (only him GIVING things to me) he didn't run off when I strolled over and I was able to put a hand on his harness, and pull out the long bones that were heading down his throat. Other dog owners were having a terrible time trying to get the bones off their dogs, trying and failing to chase them down. This wasn't a circumstance in which I expected Henry to voluntarily swap the contraband as it was such a high value food item. But because I very rarely take things from him, there was no problem doing it when I needed to.
Brilliant example of swell trained dog. Bet the other handlers looked on in envy......once they got there breath back after all that frantic running about. Lol
I had similar last year on holiday, she got hold of half a rabbit (road kill) BUT this was one of those rare moments that she decided she wanted it, boy can cockers clamp down hard with there mouth when they want too 😁
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That's right on the money. I NEVER chase Henry for anything or react in the slightest, so there is no fun for him in running away with contraband. Most things he brings to me for a swap, and if he doesn't bring it straight away, he drops it the minute he sees my hand going to the treat jar.
This approach was a life saver recently when he found some cooked chicken bones in the park. He was a little distance away from me when I saw him lie down and start munching on something. Because we have no habit of chase in these circumstances, or me taking things from him (only him GIVING things to me) he didn't run off when I strolled over and I was able to put a hand on his harness, and pull out the long bones that were heading down his throat. Other dog owners were having a terrible time trying to get the bones off their dogs, trying and failing to chase them down. This wasn't a circumstance in which I expected Henry to voluntarily swap the contraband as it was such a high value food item. But because I very rarely take things from him, there was no problem doing it when I needed to.
Well done Henry!!!