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Cocker Specific Discussion => Puppies => Topic started by: ollie1 on May 14, 2017, 10:13:11 PM
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Okay so as soon as I got him Thursday night we noticed he was digging all around the garden.
Friday in the daytime he was doing the same, but he dug up moles! They got away without being hurt.
Then tonight about ten minutes ago I let him out to go "wee wee" and I saw his acting weird, I quickly opened his mouth and saw what I think was a mole! It was pitch black and all I had was a small torch! I tried to get it out but couldn't and he I think swallowed a mole!!!!
Will this kill him or hurt him???
I'm really worried about it and don't really know what to do. My other spaniel has never done this, I just don't know what to do!
He seems happy enough ATM
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I would also like to add we live in Derbyshire near farm land, we are riddled with moles on our lawn. I never thought the new pup would ever try and do this. Tomorrow I'm off to get chicken wire and I'm going to turn my concrete patio area into a outdoor dog area. He's not being allowed onto the lawn until he stops this behaviour.
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I doubt that swallowing a mole will hurt him. My Louis swallowed a live Greenfinch whole when he was about 9 or 10 weeks old and was fine. I monitored him and his poo for a day or so, but no ill effects. Hopefully it will be the same for your little tinker.
Temporary fencing to keep him off the lawn sounds like the way forward. Hopefully if you can do that for a few weeks he'll have lost his interest in moles by then :blink:
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I doubt that swallowing a mole will hurt him. My Louis swallowed a live Greenfinch whole when he was about 9 or 10 weeks old and was fine. I monitored him and his poo for a day or so, but no ill effects. Hopefully it will be the same for your little tinker.
Temporary fencing to keep him off the lawn sounds like the way forward. Hopefully if you can do that for a few weeks he'll have lost his interest in moles by then :blink:
That's my thinking about the fence. I've rang the vets they've told me to keep an eye on him, I'm sleeping with him tonight. If he seems like something's wrong the vets say to take him in.
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I really think I need to get rid of these moles, does anyone have any good ideas to move them on???
I don't really like the idea of killing them.
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I had a small mole problem years ago. There were lots in a adjoining field and they began spreading into my garden. My elderly neighbour suggested poking a stick into the mole runs (you can feel them as slightly raised and soft underfoot leading away from the molehills) at various intervals and pouring a little Jeyes Fluid in. He also said to leave a stick covered in the fluid stuck in the mole hills. Apparently they don't like the smell. It worked pretty quickly. They kept trying new routes but every time I repeated the trick and they eventually gave up.
Hope pup is OK.
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open a hole and pour a bit of Jeyes fluid down. If the tin is empty leave it upended for a while in one of the holes. Moles are very territorial. only coming together at breeding time. So if you are actually seeing multiples then you have a nest close. otherwise it is just the one and he is no more
My Gemma is also a mole catcher. killer and muncher.
On the bright side who could hire out your mole catcher, you would make a fortune :005:
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open a hole and pour a bit of Jeyes fluid down. If the tin is empty leave it upended for a while in one of the holes. Moles are very territorial. only coming together at breeding time. So if you are actually seeing multiples then you have a nest close. otherwise it is just the one and he is no more
My Gemma is also a mole catcher. killer and muncher.
On the bright side who could hire out your mole catcher, you would make a fortune :005:
I uncovered a metal panel that had fell on the grass yesterday at around 1pm there was about 10-20 of them!
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Well everything is okay today that's the good news.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/49454b7bf8bdd75f4ffecaea77244a9d.jpg)
Looks as if butter wouldn't melt!
But we all know the truth!
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are you sure they're moles and not shrews or some other small rodent? Sounds odd that they're just under a metal panel and not buried quite a way down. An 8 week old puppy is not a hunter yet - they're just not quick enough so he's found a vulnerable source. Sounds like they're babies :(
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Like Helen I wonder if an 8 week old pup would be able to excavate and catch a mole. Obviously he has now destroyed the evidence so we will never know for sure!
As to getting rid of the little critters I have successfully used rags soaked in creosote and pushed into the holes. Again they hate the smell and should move on.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/49454b7bf8bdd75f4ffecaea77244a9d.jpg)
Looks as if butter wouldn't melt!
But we all know the truth!
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What a ferocious looking monster! Those moles must be just terrified!!! :005: :005:
(Ollie, - you're a sweetie! :luv:)
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Oh, just look at that face, I could just squidge him!
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/49454b7bf8bdd75f4ffecaea77244a9d.jpg)
Looks as if butter wouldn't melt!
But we all know the truth!
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What a ferocious looking monster! Those moles must be just terrified!!! :005: :005:
(Ollie, - you're a sweetie! :luv:)
He is very cute 👍
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/49454b7bf8bdd75f4ffecaea77244a9d.jpg)
Looks as if butter wouldn't melt!
But we all know the truth!
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What a ferocious looking monster! Those moles must be just terrified!!! :005: :005:
(Ollie, - you're a sweetie! :luv:)
He is very cute 👍
But he's a killer! :lol2:
(he is really cute!)
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He eat it at night, they were running alone the surface of the lawn. Our lawns full of holes.
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Looks as if butter wouldn't melt!
But we all know the truth!
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What a ferocious looking monster! Those moles must be just terrified!!! :005: :005:
(Ollie, - you're a sweetie! :luv:)
He is very cute 👍
But he's a killer! :lol2:
(he is really cute!)
Yes he looks fearsome 😁
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He eat it at night, they were running alone the surface of the lawn. Our lawns full of holes.
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have you got a lawn full of mole hills
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He eat it at night, they were running alone the surface of the lawn. Our lawns full of holes.
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have you got a lawn full of mole hills
I have yes, however there's loads of little holes too!
I live on a massive estate and have just took a dead one that my other cocker killed the night before to the game keeper.
He's looked at it and said it's a vole
Looks like this - (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170515/1d103d04b4b378ce3488c167c9671b08.jpg)
I'm so happy he's okay.
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every spaniel I have had has hunted and eaten voles normally when we are not working on game, you would be surprised how many owners do not notice a vole or 2 enhancing their dogs diet. Voles would make up a good part of a dogs diet in the wild as they do foxes.
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every spaniel I have had has hunted and eaten voles normally when we are not working on game, you would be surprised how many owners do not notice a vole or 2 enhancing their dogs diet. Voles would make up a good part of a dogs diet in the wild as they do foxes.
I'm trying to keep him away from them at night by keeping him confined in a fenced concrete base patio area. However he's just worked out that he can climb up chicken wire and get over the top!!!! This puppy is so outgoing he seems really intelligent!
In the day we allow him to run around in the garden on the lawn, here was me thinking they were baby moles lol
Well at least I know now!
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A simple solution would be to keep him on a lead when you take him out at night for toileting.
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every spaniel I have had has hunted and eaten voles normally when we are not working on game, you would be surprised how many owners do not notice a vole or 2 enhancing their dogs diet. Voles would make up a good part of a dogs diet in the wild as they do foxes.
I'm trying to keep him away from them at night by keeping him confined in a fenced concrete base patio area. However he's just worked out that he can climb up chicken wire and get over the top!!!! This puppy is so outgoing he seems really intelligent!
In the day we allow him to run around in the garden on the lawn, here was me thinking they were baby moles lol
Well at least I know now!
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me thinks you have underestimated your little boy. :shades: cocker spaniels are so ultra intelligent and don't they know it.
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Did someone say Vole! Lol
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:luv:
he is beautiful, completely vowled me over :banana:
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I'm impressed with the little hunter you have! So young and innocent looking, but allready getting his own food ;) We have plenty of voles but as far as I know none of them have been eaten by the dog. They disappear underground when we go in the garden, I can see that my cocker smells them, but she has not tried to dig them up....yet. I would not trust her in the garden on her own though :005:
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I'm impressed with the little hunter you have! So young and innocent looking, but allready getting his own food ;) We have plenty of voles but as far as I know none of them have been eaten by the dog. They disappear underground when we go in the garden, I can see that my cocker smells them, but she has not tried to dig them up....yet. I would not trust her in the garden on her own though :005:
We don't let our dogs out on their own either. To be honest my older cocker Ollie is so chilled out that he was only made aware of their existence by little Loxley!
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If this pup is mousing already just you wait until he discovers rabbits, this one is going to be hunter start that steadiness training soon LOL, one for gundog training classes me thinks
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If this pup is mousing already just you wait until he discovers rabbits, this one is going to be hunter start that steadiness training soon LOL, one for gundog training classes me thinks
Very good advice! Even if you have no intention of working him, you need to get him trained early so that the two of you can enjoy your time together rather than spending all your time 'in hot pursuit' or paying for dead chickens! With good, early training you will have an incredible dog.
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To be honest I would not be letting him hunt at all and would knock this on the head now ;)
It will create a rod for your own back with anything else in the future as he will be more interested in hunting and chasing (and killing). You won't be able to recall him if he has a strong self fulfilling hunt instinct.
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He's supposed to be a show cocker!
My other boy (9 years old) is a worker but shows no working instinct at all.
Loxley is almost 10 weeks old now and he's supposed to be a show cocker! He's absolutely mental he's wired! I've stopped him from going onto the lawn at night! We keep an eye on him in the day and keep picking him up and moving him away from the areas where we know the vowl's are!
We have looked online and it states to remove logs / branches and items in the garden that could be used as cover for the vowl's and to cut the grass low! This will discourage them from staying around!
We are really trying our best to discourage this behaviour.
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He's supposed to be a show cocker!
My best ever working spaniel was a show cocker, some of them do not know they are supposed to just model for chocolate box photos
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He's supposed to be a show cocker!
My best ever working spaniel was a show cocker, some of them do not know they are supposed to just model for chocolate box photos
I really want to take him to puppy training classes, but I'm having trouble finding ones around here "worksop" where I can take him when I'm not working. I.e. Fridays or Saturdays
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