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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Annette on June 14, 2006, 04:21:42 PM
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Sorry. This is even longer than my usual posts!
This has been going on for a couple of weeks, maybe more.
It's a kind of "earthy" smell. Very strong at times.
At first I thought it was his ears (I used to clean tham daily, but reduced it after reading that it shouldn't be done too often), so I started doing them every day again, and regular Thornits. I then started using the Leo I got from the vets even though he hates it and I have never previously been convinced he needs it.
When that didn't stop the smell (Thornits only masked it for a few hours at most) I decided it must be the newly discovered lip folds. I had thought they were in a totally different place up to then! ph34r I started with Hibiscrub, then moved on to Betadine but it hasn't helped either and I am not sure if it's that.
Someone told me that her lab used to smell bad until she started removing her collar in the house. She wondered if it was a build up of grease under the collar. SO we have been doing that, and I've washed the collar, but still haven't tracked down the source.
His breath isn't too fresh, but I don't think it's the same smell, even so I've been cleaning there too (always have, but have started to do all these things more often).
I've taken to cleaning thoroughly around his privates each day too as he's a young adult male. 'nuff said there! And I've been baby wiping his bum.
He had a bath just over a week ago after rolling in something dead, and he did smell a bit better for maybe a day. Just a strong aroma of his conditioner, but surely I shouldn't bath him too often?
His poos are usually quite good, and he hasn't scooted for months so I don't think it's his anal glands either.
He does swim most days but if he gets in the manky water we rinse him off either in the cleaner river or with the hose. I wondered if he had a skin infection, but can't see anything widespread. There might be something going on on his throat. When we took his collar off we found a slightly pink area of fur, but can't find anything on his skin there at all. It's not even dye from the collar - wrong colour!
I've run my not very efficient nose all over him (the things we do!) and honestly can't find the source.
I am wondering whether I should pop him up to the vet for a quick check, as I'm sure it's not a healthy smell. It's certainly not a smell I've sensed from a dog before, but I am a novice.
Before I do that, I just thought I'd ask if anyone has any other clues as to what this could be please. I hate to think that I might have inadvertantly neglected him, but I think I must be doing something wrong.
This would be one of the reasons I have been thinking a bit about BARF, but not quite ready for that yet. Just wonder if I have failed to check out anything else which might be the source.
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I'd be thinking an infected anal gland maybe? My neighbours dog mentioned something similar last year, and that's what it was. Is it on his breath at all, or just *on* him?
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Just wafting up from between my feet as we speak! It's gross!
Honestly, I can't localise it at all. And I've had my nose in places no one has a right to put their nose. Believe me!
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I'd get his glands checked out. If you've been unable to isolate it then perhaps your vet or someone else needs to have a sniff as your nose gets used to smells ;)
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I'd take him to the vets, my neighbour was going daft trying to figure it out, and because it wasn't fishy smelling wasn't convinced it was anal glands. Turned out to be an infection and he needed some antibiotics to clear it.
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poor you! and poor buddy :-\
i agree with the others re the anal glands - or could it be the start of some kind of yeast/bacterial infection bought on by the humidity? (heard that it can cause smelly coats but am no expert...)...think it's the vet's for buddy....
Hope you get to the bottom (no anal gland pun intended ph34r) of it soon ;)
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Honey has always had a funny smell from her paws - but doesn't like getting them groomed, so I don't get to poke abput at them a lot. Today though I was grooming her outside, armed with some hide chew sticks and she let me groom away. She let me have a good look at ther paws and was horrified to see that right down in between her toes was covered in really dry sore skin - I am going to post later for advice.
This I imagine is the cause of her smelly feet - it is a peculiar smell - not unpleasant but not nice either (obviously) - ckeck out his feet - just a thought!
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annette - agree with the others - take him to the vet they may not know his normal smell but they may recognise this odd smell.
failing that - small journey in the washing machine :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG - you do realise I'm JOKING dont you :o :o :o sorry - very warped sense of humour here ;) :lol: :lol:
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I thought it could be his feet too? Indie has terrible pongie feet, when you think about it, they do stand in all kinds of stuff eeeekk rather not think about what they stand in though :o ::)
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Hi,
just wanted to say we're having the same problem with Teddy, he has smelt since we got him at 6 months old. I can't source the smell either and he seems healthy, don't think it's his anal glands or ears ... I've put him on Burns because I read and was told that this could get rid of smells ...no change as yet, but it's only been a few weeks. The groomer suggested having him neutered as apparently it could be hormones - he's about nine months and testosterone levels are high at this age. Not sure about that yet, will discuss with vet.
We have the same problem, if I bathe him the smell is masked temporarily by the shampoo or grooming spray smell but quickly comes back, so it's not a dirty smell.
Sorry,no advice but if Teddy improves I'll keep you up to date. Would be interested to hear what your vet says, I keep meaning to go to mine but haven't got there yet - the expense!
Karen and Teddy x
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Max has pongy feet too - very stale smelling - he goes through phases with them - we keep them trimmed & check them every day & spray tea tree stuff in there every now & then!! He also gets smelly breath every so often too, for no apparent reason - usually only for a day or 2. Funnily enough, hubby mentioned tonight that he was a bit whiffy & I reckon it might be cos he's been ill & hasn't been eating or drinking properly - hope so anyway!! :005: :luv: :005:
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Is it safe to use tea tree oil neat on their feet if you just rub it in between their toes/pads? It cleared up my persistent, recurring athletes foot infection, and wondered if it would work for kb/Honey?
Paddy's breath usually stinks, despite regular tooth cleaning. If he breathes on you through his nose - no smell, if it it's from his mouth - YIKES alive!! ph34r But since he was on metronidazole (spelling?), after his last colitis "crisis", he hasn't smelled at all and no flatulence either :angel: :angel:
So I've concluded that the bad breath is originating from his digestive tract...don't know if that helps anyone else whose dog has smelly breath or not!
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Buddy's off to the vet at 4.30. I'll let you know what he thinks.
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I assume its not his lip folds that are smelling.
Check the skin on the tips of his ears and also his paws. Wilf for some reason gets a funny flaky skin problem in these areas sometimes which can also smell.
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Is it safe to use tea tree oil neat on their feet if you just rub it in between their toes/pads?
I think you have to be careful using neat tea tree in some dogs. I have used a solution of tea tree (made up in a spray bottle and use the tiniest drop of milk --- yes milk as it helps it disperse with the water)
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if it's not a foul smell then it could well be a yeast infection.my oes was forever getting them.i reckon i kept the manufacturers of the malosab(sp) in buisness for years :005:my vet used to love seeing us come through the doors coz he loved the smell the yeast gave off :lol: :lol:
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if it's not a foul smell then it could well be a yeast infection.my oes was forever getting them.i reckon i kept the manufacturers of the malosab(sp) in buisness for years :005:my vet used to love seeing us come through the doors coz he loved the smell the yeast gave off :lol: :lol:
I think this is what Wilf gets on his ears and feet sometimes
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Well we went, and to be honest it was a bit of a waste of time. It wasn't our favourite vet unfortunately so apart from being nearly £70 lighter, and now having a bottle of Malaseb and a tube of Logic Gel (my request) we are no nearer finding the cause or a solution to the pong-monster.
Firstly the vet didn't bother with any preliminaries just dived straight in. Buddy didn't take too kindly to it all and I am now thinking that we may need to neuter him sometime after all. She had to put a soft muzzle on him in the end so that she could sniff all over him. Mind you I was the only one offering treats!
She felt that one ear smelt very slightly but wasn't convinced it was the source of THE smell. His skin is all dry and intact as far as we could see. His lip folds are clean and look "pretty good for a cocker", his paws weren't especially smelly. She did say that some dogs are just a bit farty. But I would recognise that smell!! ;)
She emptied his anal glands which were a bit full (his poos have been a bit looser lately) but again, not infected.
She suggested I try weekly Malaseb baths just in case that's the cause. She described the smell as slightly yeasty. So it might do the trick. Other than that, I guess I just keep on doing what we do and hope it clears up.
I am relieved that at least she didn't tell me to stop him swimming, I don't think we could to be honest!
Re the Malaseb. Does anyone know if I can use the "scrunchy" method to apply it? Or is it best to apply it directly. I have read the instructions and all it says is to apply it to certain spots and work it in all over. But since discovering the "scrunchy method" I much prefer to do that.
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Hope the Malaseb helps Annette ;) £70 is very expensive, how much is the consultation fee?
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Annette - whats he fed on?? You dont think the manufacturers have altered the ingredients without notice and this may be the cause?? Just a thougth ;)
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Annette, don't see why you can't use the scrunchie method as long as you massage it right into his skin. As you know I have been using this on Coco and have had to dilute it in order to get it all over her as it is rather thick >:(. I would dilute it, apply it with scrunchie and then give him a good massage all over. He will probably enjoy all that the smelly little devil :005:
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Annette - whats he fed on?? You dont think the manufacturers have altered the ingredients without notice and this may be the cause?? Just a thougth ;)
Burns! Anyone else noticed a change in the food?
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I haven't noticed a change. Coco seems to find her poo just as delicious as ever :005:
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Coco seems to find her poo just as delicious as ever :005:
Oh well thats good to know - glad she's still enjoying it :rofl1: :rofl1: :rofl1: :rofl1:
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Hope the Malaseb helps Annette ;) £70 is very expensive, how much is the consultation fee?
We are in Berkshire. Everything seems to be expensive here! Comes of having HRH as a neighbour perhaps? :005:
I did buy a kong too at £4.50. Consultation was £25, but £13.50 to express the anal glands! Hey Ho!!
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I did buy a kong too at £4.50. Consultation was £25, but £13.50 to express the anal glands! Hey Ho!!
Ahhh I forgot about the anal squeeze, its the same as my vets then Annette, £25 for a consultation ;)
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OK, slightly deviating off track here, but what is the scrunchie method, I am intrigued?
Hope you get mr. whiffy sorted soon. ;)
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OK, slightly deviating off track here, but what is the scrunchie method, I am intrigued?
This is the 'scrunchie method'
linky (http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=17387.0) ;) ;)
Its a dark art this cocker ownership :005: :005:
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Sorry to hear you haven't got the the source of the smell - I hope the shampoo helps ;)
Firstly the vet didn't bother with any preliminaries just dived straight in. Buddy didn't take too kindly to it all and I am now thinking that we may need to neuter him sometime after all. She had to put a soft muzzle on him in the end so that she could sniff all over him. Mind you I was the only one offering treats!
Don't do it just because he got narky with a vet with unrealisitc expectations and a poor bedside manner ::)
I was mortified when the vet/nurses labelled Molo as snappy; he had to be muzzled for his stitch removal and KC vaccine ::) Eventually, I had an appointment with the Senior Partner, who reassured me that Molo was perfectly normal ,and far better than some of their clients ph34r
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Normally you leave the malaseb on for ten minuts after applying, which makes it work btter. Indie had some for pyoderma - I hated the leaving it on bit!
Can't believe £13.50 for anal glands, we charg £4.50!
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Well, 1st Malaseb done. He was very put out. Normally after he has endured a bath I wrap him up in his bag and give him a treat.
Today I soaked him in warmish water in the garden, applied the shampoo and we sat out there with the doors locked to wait for it to do its stuff. He whined/barked all the time, just couldn't understand why I wasn't giving him his treat!
THEN had to be dragged up to the bathroom for a shower down. Still, he eventually did get his dry bag, his treat and even a soggy cuddle on my lap in the sun so he's a happier boy now. And less smelly at the moment, but it lasted all of 24 hours after his "normal" bath last week. We'll see how long it lasts this time!
Another question - can I still use the conditioner after Malaseb? (I did today because it smells so nice and detangles), But I promise I won't if you tell me not to!
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Yes, I don't se why not - it seems to be the leaving it on for ten mins is when it gts to work.
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I've not tried the scrunchie method before, will try it tomorrow. Indie has his anal glands emptied about 2 weeks ago. I called up to book and asked how much it was and I was told it was £8.95. When I took him in she emptied them and told me that his glands were a bit infected so charged me £18.95 instead and then charged me £10.00 for some pro-biotics. I didn't check the itemised receipt until the next day and phoned up to complain and ask for my money back,but they refused and got very stroppy.
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The smell is already starting to come back.
So far I have just masked it with a good dosing of Thornits. He's going to end up with a real stinky loo block hanging off his collar if this keeps up!
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He's going to end up with a real stinky loo block hanging off his collar if this keeps up!
failing that one (or several) of those self-squirting air freheners tied round his neck :lol:
seriously Annette, this is really weird - if it were me I'd give it a week (so that you can say you gave the shampoo a fair go ) then go back to the vet making sure that your fav vet is on duty ;)
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So would I - stick with it, and ask the receptionist when the vet you like is on duty.
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I've not tried the scrunchie method before, will try it tomorrow. Indie has his anal glands emptied about 2 weeks ago. I called up to book and asked how much it was and I was told it was £8.95. When I took him in she emptied them and told me that his glands were a bit infected so charged me £18.95 instead and then charged me £10.00 for some pro-biotics. I didn't check the itemised receipt until the next day and phoned up to complain and ask for my money back,but they refused and got very stroppy.
Pro biotics are used to balance the good bacteria in the stomach after a tummy upset usually - if his glands were infected it's likely to have been antibiotics, and depending on what kind they wr, they can cost as much as that. With the recnt Brussels directiv, vets have to use licensed products rather than generics, which makes it even more expensive. I can understand them not refunding you to be honest as they quoted for gland emptying, not treating a gland infection. You'd have had to have had him treated as infected glands ar nasty.
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:huh:
I'm sat here holding my breath, waiting for something which might help with Teddy's smell, as it sounds like the same thing. I keep putting off a visit to the vets as I'm so skint at the moment and it's not an emergency, I'm fairly sure there's nothing wrong with his skin, and he seems perfectly healthy otherwise, so am tending towards thinking it's a hormonal thing ...
Karen and Teddy
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What is he being fed on? I'm also wondering if there could be an allergic type thingy going on?
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Buddy is on Burns. Always has been. We did slightly increase the amount several weeks ago after our *starving Buddy* thread, do you think it could be that? (Really clutching at straws now!)
As the smell is only just returning I hoped I would be able to localise it more easily, but still no joy.
He has always had a bit of brown discoloration between his toes, but we rarely see him licking them. I doubt it's tan colouring though. Seems unlikely that it would just appear there even though several of his litter mates are blue roan and tan. And they seem dry, and no more smelly than the rest of him.
Might it be weather related, do you think?
I will move onto the treatment dose of Malaseb, bath him twice a week, then see how it goes.
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The smell is already starting to come back.
So far I have just masked it with a good dosing of Thornits. He's going to end up with a real stinky loo block hanging off his collar if this keeps up!
LMAO you have made my day! - i can imagine Buddy wandering around with a toilet block hanging round his neck looking very sorry for himself :005:
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He has always had a bit of brown discoloration between his toes, but we rarely see him licking them. I doubt it's tan colouring though. Seems unlikely that it would just appear there even though several of his litter mates are blue roan and tan. And they seem dry, and no more smelly than the rest of him.
The discolouration between the toes is not tan colouring - it is discolouration caused by sweat or licking. It's basically staining from the body fluid - tear stains are the same thing. Some dogs are more prone than others and some do seem to get sweaty feet. You can help neutralise the sweat by adding tomatoe paste to the food. Keep his feet well trimmed so that there's as little fur as poss to hold the sweat in and wash them in a mild solution of shampoo and water but only rinse in very cool water - don't condition. That might help.
I do wonder if this smell is pervasive as it seems to be and not localised then it might be something more to do with his internal digestion.
I think you need to give the malaseb time to work and also try giving him some yoghurt to balance his tum out. It's not going to cure overnight I'm afraid.
I'd also lay off the thornit - you need to reduce the number of things that might be causing, masking or even exacerbating the problem so that you can identify it. ;)
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I never knew dogs had any sweat glands (I thought they panted, instead of sweating) - but Suite 101 (http://www.suite101.com) (brill trivia site) has corrected me and I now know that dogs have sweat glands on their noses and paw-pads ph34r
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A bit off the thread I know but cats also get sweaty feet - that is why you see little damp paw prints when they are anxious!
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Hmm just catching up with this as I've been headless chicken all week :lol:
What flavour Burns is he on Annette ? my guess would be that it is something to do with the food.
Malaseb is good stuff - but you need to know what is causing the yeast infection, if it is that. Just shampooing with Malaseb won't make it go away, it will just suppress it for a while...
I would probably change the flavour of his food if you want to continue with Burns - maybe try the fish one - I am guessing the one you feed is chicken ?
My dogs don't smell at all (really they don't !) people are always amazed that the house / car doesn't smell - and yes you know what I put that down to :D - mainly diet, and exercise, and grooming.... and as little interference as possible other than that. No sprays to make them smell nice - oh and be very careful using any essential oils on dogs or cats it needs to be mega mega diluted. We don't use any chemical air fresheners in the house - no floor cleaners - nothing that smells strong because Lola is allergic to so much she absolutely hates strong smells...
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Teddy too is on Burns. But we only changed to Burns about three or four weeks ago in an attempt to get rid of the smell! Also just wanted to say that he smelt when it was cold and now it is hot, so it may not be weather related.
I also find it very difficult to locate, it's definitely all over him, not his breath, or paws, or bum (sorry!), or ears .... it's just him, it kind of wafts when he walks past. don't think it's a digestion thing, as his breath doesn't smell.
When we bathe him the smell goes temporarily but think it is just masked and seems to return by the evening of the same day as the scent of the grooming spray or shampoo wears off, sometimes sooner. Today he smells just awful and I have no idea why it is so bad.
Has anyone else here heard of young un-neutered males giving off lots of testosterone and smelling because of that? I read that somewhere on the net and my groomer said the same thing, but I can't find the web page now! sorry.
Karen and Teddy x
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Has anyone else here heard of young un-neutered males giving off lots of testosterone and smelling because of that? I read that somewhere on the net and my groomer said the same thing, but I can't find the web page now! sorry.
Karen and Teddy x
Ah! I wonder if it is that? Buddy is young and entire (at the moment. I think I hear a clock ticking on his nid-nads!!!)
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just to confuse everyone more.....jarvis is on a varied diet but has burns once a day (lamb variation) and he has his boy bits and he's a year old.....and he doesn't have any odour apart from a slight doggy smell...he is in the water a lot (but not bathed) so this may keep any strange smells at bay...
i know cockers have a tendency for oily skin (as this is what keeps the coats waterproof...). Is it possible that teddy & buddy have an over abundance of the stuff and that's what's smelling? like spotty oily teenagers :005:
just a thought ph34r
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What flavour Burns is he on Annette ? my guess would be that it is something to do with the food.
I would probably change the flavour of his food if you want to continue with Burns - maybe try the fish one - I am guessing the one you feed is chicken ?
We buy the big bags, and try to vary the flavours. He's just over half way through the lamb flavour now. I would be willing to buy in some other flavour early if you really thought this might be it?
I'm going to try the tomato paste. How much should I add to each meal? And how much yogurt? I guess a live yog would be best?
The only other thing we can think of is that he regularly swims in the river. It's much cleaner than the stream and ditches, but does look a bit murky just now although it is flowing well and still quite full. Does anyone think he might have some sort of infection from that even though he doesn't have any obviously itchy/flaky/inflamed/moist areas on his skin? He paddled last night at about 5.30pm, and I noticed the smell at about 8-9pm when he was sitting at my feet while I was on here.
It will mess up our lives somewhat if we are unable to let him swim. Some of you might recall that our garden leads directly onto open countryside, and the first stream is less than 50yds from the house. We would have to keep him on lead for all walks if we can't let him swim in future. Water to Buddy is like birds to Bailey or squirrels to Bella, he's obsessed and I can only rarely recall him reliably from his favourite entry spots!
I am still a bit too scared to BARF, but do you think that introducing some raw bones to his diet would help? Sadly the vet I spoke to the other day would absolutely not support us in BARFing. Don't know what David thinks to be honest. That wouldn't put me off completely if I was certain I wanted to do it, but I suspect that it would eventually turn into the vets blaming everything on his diet etc etc if it came to it!
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i know cockers have a tendency for oily skin (as this is what keeps the coats waterproof...). Is it possible that teddy & buddy have an over abundance of the stuff and that's what's smelling? like spotty oily teenagers :005:
just a thought ph34r
That's more or less what another dog walker said last week. We weren't actually talking about Buddy smelling, and she wasn't close enough to get the whiff herself, but she told me that her young lab bitch was a bit smelly and she found that taking her collar off in the house prevented a build up of smelly grease around her neck. SO I started doing that too, and have washed the collar. But hasn't helped at all sadly!
I suppose the build up could be more generalised though. But to be honest, his coat never feels greasy the way I remember some dogs being.
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i wouldn't stop him swimming...it probably is helping with the smell. I know after a really hot run with no swimming with jarvis he smells decidedly 'stronger' and after a swim/run he remains pong free
why don't you introduce some raw into the diet annette? i'm not a barf purist...yet ...and still have one meal burns...but am trying to do more raw feeding. My mixed version may be completely wrong (apologies but it works for us!)
forthglade do a 'barfers' mince (jarv loves the lamb with veg variety and it has no grain in it), which is freeflow so you just get a bowl full of it out of the freezer and it's defrosted in minutes, so thats an easy barf option. lambs breast bones are another easy add in ( i have a dog that's not keen on raw chicken wings :o so i stick to the lamb varieties) .
introduce something like fish in oil once a week, and maybe a raw egg once or twice a week, and some veg
found this vague link on hormones too...
linky (http://www.cah.com/dr_library/dogskin.html#hormonal)
got my investigating hat on....may be back with more ;)
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It could well be the young entire male thing I guess..... in which case you just gotta wait and see if he gets over it !
If you were considering feeding a raw diet - you could do as Helen suggests and feed a ready made "complete" raw mince ..... I missed the tomato paste thing - what's that for ? am not keen on changing the ph of the urine, which is what a lot of tomato paste would do...
I doubt it's got anything to do with the swimming.
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ok...i keep coming up with 'seborrhoea oleosa' whenever i google hormones, skin disorders in dogs etc....
i don't know if buddy and teddy could have a form of it as they don't have the other associated itchy skin etc....
anyway have a google and see what you come up with!
x
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I have looked at a couple of things that suggest skin allergies such as pollen, as the cause of smells from dogs. There may not always be visible signs of the allergy, apparently!
Also spaniels are apparently more oily than other dogs, sometimes causing build up of oils - I know you have already considered this as a source.
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If their skin is irritated they may produce more oil to ease the discomfort thus increasing the smell.
Does his coat feel oily?
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Hi Annette,
First off i have no experience whatsoever of this but I was fascinated reading about Buddy's 'Lynx Effect' and came across this (http://www.isabellevets.co.uk/health_advice/dog/info/seborrhoeadog.htm)
I dont know that this is the answer to your problem but it does give you a vets perspective and a solution should it turn out to be 'seborrhoea oleosa'
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I was searching google for dog smells and have found quite a few forums where owners are complaining of smelly dogs!
In particular they complain of smelly feet :lol:
One such american web site was talking about dogs whose feet smell like corn chips - I found this quite amusing because I have always said that Honey's feet smelt like "wotsits" :005:
But I couldn't quite believe that one person wrote that when she is hungry and she has nothing to eat - you guessed - she sniffs her dogs feet to take the hunger away :-\. Is this something you would admit to in public?
I suppose it owuld be one way of losing some weight though ;)
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But I couldn't quite believe that one person wrote that when she is hungry and she has nothing to eat - you guessed - she sniffs her dogs feet to take the hunger away Undecided. Is this something you would admit to in public?
Is this a foot fettish?
I have to say i've never been inclined to suck toes, but hey if they taste like cheesy wotsits well..........................maybe NOT!
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popcorn or digestive biscuits is wot jarvs hoofs smell like ph34r
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The only other thing we can think of is that he regularly swims in the river. It's much cleaner than the stream and ditches, but does look a bit murky just now although it is flowing well and still quite full. Does anyone think he might have some sort of infection from that even though he doesn't have any obviously itchy/flaky/inflamed/moist areas on his skin? He paddled last night at about 5.30pm, and I noticed the smell at about 8-9pm when he was sitting at my feet while I was on here.
It will mess up our lives somewhat if we are unable to let him swim. Some of you might recall that our garden leads directly onto open countryside, and the first stream is less than 50yds from the house. We would have to keep him on lead for all walks if we can't let him swim in future. Water to Buddy is like birds to Bailey or squirrels to Bella, he's obsessed and I can only rarely recall him reliably from his favourite entry spots!
I guess letting him swim in a murky river or canal could make him smell, having said that as Teddy is an absolute coward and hates water, he has never swum in a canal or river and still has this constant smell. Also my neighbour has a springer who swims in the canal nearly every day and she never smells, in fact I can press my nose into her coat and she just smells fresh, a couple of hours after coming out of the canal last week!
Karen and Teddy x
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Yes it's funny isn't it? His smell isn't the same as the river smell anyway, I was just mulling over whether it might be a reaction to the water etc. I think I'd accept the explanation that it's something to do with how Mercury is lined up with Venus at this stage!
Although I am getting whiffs of THAT smell at the moment it's not yet as strong as it was. So maybe, just maybe the Malaseb has made a bit of an improvement already?
As far as I can tell his skin looks absolutely fine. I don't think he's itchy. He scratches a bit but not what I think is excessively.
Thank you so much all of you for all the trouble you are taking over our little problem. I'm trying really hard to believe it's not because you are dreading the next COL meet-up we come to :005: :005: :005:
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Indie dosn't ever really whiff, but Ham often does. Penel do you think it could be drug-induced? He's fed on naturediet same as Indie.
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Indie dosn't ever really whiff, but Ham often does. Penel do you think it could be drug-induced? He's fed on naturediet same as Indie.
with Ham yes definitely. Saffy had "that" smell about her, and when she relapsed the smell was different again. Everyone on the group whose dogs are on pred and Aza notice "that" smell - very hard to describe isn't it - but I know what you mean. How is he doing on the combination of drugs now Shona ?
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Well, after posting that the smell was coming back again, I can now report :D that it hasn't got any worse! :D
It's still there but nowhere near as overpowering as it was before. It has been cooler yesterday and today, but even on Sarutday when it was very hot we were able to stroke him without holding our noses.
I had already started the tomato paste before reading Penel's post about using it with caution, but am only giving a very small teaspoon-full in each meal.
Of course he has had one treatment with Malaseb, but other than that and the tomato paste we have changed nothing. So it looks like one or both of them has started to work. So I guess we keep on with both of them until the smell goes completely then drop one of them and see if the smell comes back.
Thanks so much for your support. You can now relax knowing that we won't pong you out on the next COL meet!
I'll be back if it comes back with avengence!
Edited to add: I don't bl**dy well believe it!!!! You'll never guess what's wafting up from between my feet now. :o
What's that about? Minutes ago he was here and not smelling all that bad, now he's a right stonky git again. :huh:
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Indie dosn't ever really whiff, but Ham often does. Penel do you think it could be drug-induced? He's fed on naturediet same as Indie.
with Ham yes definitely. Saffy had "that" smell about her, and when she relapsed the smell was different again. Everyone on the group whose dogs are on pred and Aza notice "that" smell - very hard to describe isn't it - but I know what you mean. How is he doing on the combination of drugs now Shona ?
He's doing really well, thanks. His enrgy levels are back up, his platelets were up the last time they checked, he needs them done again soon - he's gnerally much better. I didn't realise quite how ill he was this most recent time, until he was btter again.
Odd about that smell, Hamish certainly does whiff a bit. :005:
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Edited to add: I don't bl**dy well believe it!!!! You'll never guess what's wafting up from between my feet now. :o
What's that about? Minutes ago he was here and not smelling all that bad, now he's a right stonky git again. :huh:
Hi Annette,
so how's he smelling now? I was just getting really excited, about to book an appointment with the vet! and hope for Masalab (sp?) too!!
Teddy smells appalling today, sometimes it seems as if it's maybe worse when he's been out and running, like he's sweating or something ... is it the same with Buddy, do you think?
Karen and Teddy x