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Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 10:37:24 AM
as you know I was wonering whether Jessie was comin into season because of the licking etc down that region, well after close examination this morning  :-X I found her bits to be oozing a yellowy discharge, now is this normal ie is it her season or could it be an infection???

worried mummy  ???                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Dessie on April 23, 2003, 10:46:05 AM
I think it is normal from what I have read in my Book of the Bitch, but I'm sure the others will be able to say for sure.  

Not much use really am I  ???                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 10:49:48 AM
awwww you are of use Dessie,  :)
I am just sitting here worried, cant ring vets yet as he's in surgery at moment, but have been searching all threads hopin shes gonna be ok, looked at another board and searched and they said there its vaginitis <sp> an it will clear itself on its own after first season, but well I just dont know if this is sound advice..                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Jane S on April 23, 2003, 10:56:22 AM
Yeah it sounds like vaginitis - not usually anything to worry about :) Licking & a yellowy discharge usually indicates this minor problem - if you're worried, then by all means check it out with your vet who may or may not prescribe antibiotics. It is v common though & often clears up by itself.

HTH :)

Jane                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 10:56:58 AM
just read more and it says antibiotics might be needed...                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Mike on April 23, 2003, 10:59:10 AM
Neither of my bitches have had a discharge during their seasons - so I dont know from my own experience if this is related to Jessies. Saying that, I wouldnt have thought a YELLOW discharge was season-related? But I could be wrong.

Jazz had two bouts of vaginitis in her first 6 months, which resulted in swelling and a discharge - unfortunately i cant remember whether it was a yellow one  :-[ (it was 2 years ago)

If it is Vaginitis, well, you may get differing opinions on how it is to be treated. Jazz had antibiotics the first time, and homeopathic rememdy the second (the vet was quite rightly hesitant to pump more antibiotics into her). I'd wait and speak to your vet when he comes out of surgery  :)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 10:59:37 AM
Yeah it sounds like vaginitis - not usually anything to worry about :) Licking & a yellowy discharge usually indicates this minor problem - if you're worried, then by all means check it out with your vet who may or may not prescribe antibiotics. It is v common though & often clears up by itself.

HTH :)

Jane


phew!... she flys in with a cape flying... and saves me tearing my hair out...  thanks Jane  ;D    I may keep an eye on her and see if it looks to be clearing itself, if not shes off to the vts, but I hate antiobiotics if they can be avoided, thats just me..  if she was in pain or anythin it would obviously be different.

other thing though can she pass it on to poppy???  poppys spayed just thouht i would add that incase its relevant


think I will still ring vets later, cos I have this ache in my heart that I am not doing everything for her when she needs me, maybe like Mike says theres something else that she can have instead of antibiotics...                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Jane S on April 23, 2003, 11:12:38 AM
Don't think you have to worry about Jessie passing anything nasty on to Poppy. When one of our bitches has had this in the past, it never seems to have been catching anyway :) I personally wouldn't opt for antibiotics as juvenile vaginitis does tend to clear up naturally after the first season, but this will be up to you & your vet to decide :)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 11:16:08 AM
well I just rang again and hes out of surgery, he said to bring her in at 2.30...he didn't sound very much like he liked the idea of her having an infection, and asked how old she was...and said yes yes bring her in today... ok now I have butterflys ... so I am set to go in at 2.30  :- I said I was told it sometimes cleared up on its own, but he said bring her in in his ever so stern voice... now I feel like a told off child...  ::)   good job I am now pushover face to face eh???                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Jane S on April 23, 2003, 11:23:36 AM
Don't worry Lynsey ;) The worst thing that will happen is that your vet will give Jessie a course of antibiotics & maybe a lecture on getting her spayed ;D Spayed bitches can get vaginitis though so don't let him intimidate you!                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 11:25:54 AM
oh he doesn't...but you should see his wife!!!!   :o :o :o ;D  JOKE!

bet he mentions spaying cos he was so so so adamant I was wrong in waiting to have her spayed after her fist season... well at 2.30 wish me well..  :-                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 12:34:57 PM
well I have rang around a few vets for advice... and they have all basically said they think its a womb infection rather than vaginitis ... have to worry here cos Jessie today is just laying around not running around like her usual self, but surely she would be ill if this was the case, but one said something about it being brought on by her age and forthcoming season.

another said if the discharge was just stringy then it would be normal just her season on its way... but as jessies is thick gungey stuff, she agreed it was likely to be womb infection, now I am scared just in case it is that, although how do I 'know' it is and them not just saying it is... ok head spinning..

ok I know I was planning on having her spayed after this season anyways, so really if they tell me its her best interest to be spayed now it wont matter much to me at all, but will it afect her??? ... I thought I was clear, and then rang around for advice for them only to make me more muddled                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Gilly on April 23, 2003, 12:36:24 PM
Don't worry Lynsey I'm sure Jessie will be fine :D actually this is something I've never heard of, having never owned a bitch before..so something I will keep an eye out for now :) so will be back later to check out how you get on...kisses to Jessie... :-*                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 01:03:24 PM
thansk Gilly, I will post as soon as I know anything, she is lookin sory for hersel at moment, but am wonderin whether shes picking up on my wories and is just playing the part, or is actually worse than I thought...   butterflys butterflys!                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Mike on April 23, 2003, 01:31:34 PM
Even with vaginitis Lynsey, Jazz looked so sorry for herself - hence the reason for deciding to take her to the vets and not letting it clear up on its own.

It could be a womb infection - but try and wait until they confirm that by proper examination before getting worked up  ;)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 01:40:08 PM
I am trying Mike I promise  ;)  but it isn't easy cos well I love her..  ;D                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 02:47:49 PM
;D shes okay  just got vaginitis he reckons caused by a season that is about to start...but who knows...I think he just wanted my money...but at least I am assured shes ok, and he checked her heart etc while I was there aswell which is good always nice to know shes ok..  she had antibiotic jab which will kill off any bugs cos she has slight temp aswell...

he said shes a lovely dog!...  ;D awwwwww and Receptionist liked her aswell... ok I am one happy mummy now...  am taking her back 2 months after her season to be speyed... he said that was best time to allow uterus to go back to normal... but if that isn't best for her can somone let me know   ;)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Inca on April 23, 2003, 03:03:52 PM
Poor jessie :'( the things females have to go through. Inca sends big hugs and kisses :-* :-* and says get better soon Jessie.                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Jane S on April 23, 2003, 03:29:06 PM
That's good news, Lynsey - you can relax now :) I think it is better to spay 3 months after a season (ie mid-way through the average cycle). Two months after a season could mean spaying when Lottie is in the throes of a phantom pregnancy - spaying her then could increase the severity of the phantom :( I think it was Fiona who had this problem when she had Poppy spayed? I'm sure she'll be able to tell you more or you can find the old thread where we talked about it before.                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Mike on April 23, 2003, 03:31:54 PM
Glad Jessie's okay  ;D

If I remember right, Jazz was fine pretty much by the next day after her first antibiotic jab. So enjoy the peace and quiet while you can  ;)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 03:38:08 PM
thanks all :D

shes asleep at my feet, being pampered all day is just too much for hr, hubby came home early and has been going aww baby to her, so shes well and truly gone all soppy with all the attention..

notice hubby didn't wanna do an inspection of said infected parts :)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Gilly on April 23, 2003, 04:47:22 PM
glad to hear that all is well with Jessie and her bits ;D                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Loraine on April 23, 2003, 05:07:32 PM
As Mike says, I'm sure as the antibiotics kick in she'll be back to her normal self running around like a mad thing.  Poor thing all on her 9 month birthday.  Candy sends lots of   :-*  :-*

L  :)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: FionaM on April 23, 2003, 05:53:49 PM
Hi Lynsey

Glad it's nothing too serious. Hope Jessie feels better soon

That's good news, Lynsey - you can relax now :) I think it is better to spay 3 months after a season (ie mid-way through the average cycle). Two months after a season could mean spaying when Lottie is in the throes of a phantom pregnancy - spaying her then could increase the severity of the phantom :( I think it was Fiona who had this problem when she had Poppy spayed? I'm sure she'll be able to tell you more or you can find the old thread where we talked about it before.

Jane is right I got Poppy spayed 6 weeks after her season on my vets advice, and poor Poppy ended up having what the vet described as "an exagereated false pregnancy" because she had been spayed too soon after her season  :(

Here is the thread that Jane is talking about http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/forum/viewtopic . php?t=638 (http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/forum/viewtopic . php?t=638)

Since then everyone that I would consider to be reliable (Jane and others on COL included  ;)) has said I should have waited until 3 months after her season and she would have been fine.

Fiona                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Shirley on April 23, 2003, 06:45:46 PM
Poor Jessie  :'(  Sorry to hear that she's not herself, but sounds like she'll be back to normal very soon  :D.  It's always the same - women getting the raw deal  ;D.                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Dessie on April 23, 2003, 07:39:25 PM
I think it is normal from what I have read in my Book of the Bitch, but I'm sure the others will be able to say for sure.  

Not much use really am I  ???


Had to go and read my book again as I got totally confused  :-[, good job I don't have a bitch at the minute  :-, I think further reading is needed.

Hope Jessie gets better soon Lynsey and I'll leave this type of thing to the experts in future  :-[                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: *Jay* on April 23, 2003, 08:20:06 PM
Sorry to hear about Jessie Lynsey - hope she's feeling better soon :-* Makes me glad Dallas had a last minute sex-change ;) We also normally recommend spaying 3 months after a season                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 23, 2003, 09:05:25 PM
now I feel terrible Loraine just reminded me shes 9 months old today... I had forgotten  :o  ??? bad mummy bad mummy  ;D                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anita on April 24, 2003, 09:52:21 AM
Lynsey

So glad everything is ok - I was reading everything at once so it was full on.Giver her a big hug from me and Pheebs.                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2003, 11:16:00 AM
thank you all once again, Jessie is well and truly spoilt rotten now, shes had cuddles after cuddles, even mum and dad rang up to speak to her..lololol.. I dunno where I get my daftness from I really dont  ;)  but I also didn't ealise she turned 9 months yesterday... awwwwww... so I will have to do a 9 month photo for you all sometime, although many have seen her on cam now, usually covering me with sloppy kisses  ;D                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Mary on April 24, 2003, 01:55:33 PM
glad to hear your spoiling her Lynsey...and why not? ;D                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Sue H on April 24, 2003, 04:05:07 PM
Sounds a bit like what happened with my Lab years ago, when I thought she was coming into season, but it was actually an infection resulting in pyometra (?) and she had to have an emergency hysterectomy  :o  Hope that this is not the same, but I would definitely get her checked over asap  ;)                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Eljay on April 24, 2003, 08:27:48 PM
Oh...Lynsey glad to hear things are ok. It must have been a worry for you. Alfie sends big :-* :-*                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 24, 2003, 09:03:50 PM
Sounds a bit like what happened with my Lab years ago, when I thought she was coming into season, but it was actually an infection resulting in pyometra (?) and she had to have an emergency hysterectomy  :o  Hope that this is not the same, but I would definitely get her checked over asap  ;)

well I am keeping my eye on her all the time, (quite hard not to when she comes and rams her face into mine all the time )  ;D   and she seems a little perkier today, theres noway I would leave her if I thought she was getting worse at all, she'd be down the vets before I could log off here  ;D                    
Title: down below problems
Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2003, 06:14:57 PM
well just so you know...Jessie is now in full blown season by the looks of her unmentionables  :-X