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Title: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 29, 2008, 12:11:46 PM
http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/cath1230_11/?action=view&current=cyst.jpg

I noticed this on Charlie's back a couple of days ago, sorry picture is blurred aint easy holding a wriggly bundle and taking a picture at the same time.  It has grown a bit over the last couple of days.  Should I go to the vets tomorrow or is this harmless and will it fall off it does seem loose but is definitely attached to his skin.
Any advice would be appreciated
Thanks
cathy with charlie.
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: happydog on June 29, 2008, 12:16:46 PM
I'm pretty sure by the colour that what Charlie has on his back is a tick. It has grown quite a bit in the last few days as it is now engorged with blood.. Do NOT put meths on it or squeeze it, or it will regurgitate it's stomach contents back into Charlie and they can carry Lymes disease. You need to remove it properly. Do you know how and do you have an O'Tom tick remover?
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Rats and Dogs on June 29, 2008, 12:17:10 PM
Could it be a tick? Do you know how to remove them if it is? If it's not a tick then I would definitely go the vets if I were you, just to make sure it's nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Rats and Dogs on June 29, 2008, 12:17:59 PM
Posted at same time as Happydog! :D
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 29, 2008, 12:19:43 PM
Sorry neither of my 2 have ever had a tick so I dont know how to remove it.  It is kind of cigar shaped. He was in the rough on the golf course a couple of days ago with OH finding golf balls.
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: angelbaby on June 29, 2008, 12:21:23 PM
is charlie on frontline? i looks a similar colour to the ones that have been on Quincy that have been dead when ive removed them, if its still alive it will be very dark grey/purple in colour and it will just drop off when its full? be careful though if you do pull it out yourself as it may leave the head in or as others have said squeeze the nastiness into him x
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 29, 2008, 12:24:27 PM
It seems to be pink in colour and no he isnt on any for ticks although he will be tomorrow when I take him to the vet, as he goes to the golf course at least twice a week with OH.
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: angelbaby on June 29, 2008, 12:25:53 PM
mm that sounds odd, cant say ive seen a pink tick? can you get a better pic maybe get some one to hold the little b***** still for a second? might be a wart or something?
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: happydog on June 29, 2008, 12:26:15 PM
I would pop to the vets and let them remove it if it is your first tick. They will be able to show you how to twist it off in order that the mouthparts are not left in. It won't hurt to leave it until tomorrow as it has been attached for a couple of days it will be well and truly attached. He probably picked it up from the long grass, hedgehogs are the most likely culprit.
If you want info here is a good site. There is a video that shows you how to remove them-folow the link from this page.

http://www.otom.com/

You can buy the removal tools here. They are only about three pounds and worth keeping in the cupboard.

http://www.furrypharm.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=1086&catid=
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: phoenix on June 29, 2008, 12:28:29 PM
Looks like the ticks I've seen.
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 29, 2008, 12:39:54 PM
Thanks I will read this info and take him to the vets tomorrow to see what it is
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u303/cath1230_11/cyst2.jpg)  I have tried again with the piccie this time out in the garden it is definatley pink.

Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: happydog on June 29, 2008, 01:26:00 PM
I'm still pretty certain it is a tick  ;)
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Bev on June 29, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
i think its a tick
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: ladylola on June 29, 2008, 01:44:25 PM
me too.
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Helen on June 29, 2008, 02:09:40 PM
think it's a tick too  ;)

http://www.tickpreventionweek.org/ticks/ (http://www.tickpreventionweek.org/ticks/)
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 29, 2008, 02:30:52 PM
Thanks all we will be off to the vet tomorrow and I have ordered one of the tick removal tools as well to keep handy I will know better next time.
Thanks
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: cazza on June 29, 2008, 04:48:29 PM
Tick was my first thought when I saw the first pics too

Don't be surprised if it's not on him tomorrow as it looks big enough to fall out on it's own - sorry you may not have wanted to hear that but think you need to be made aware  :D
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Rats and Dogs on June 29, 2008, 05:02:17 PM
That's a bit of a thought!  ph34r  Maybe you'd be better seeing if any of your dog owner friends have removed ticks and get them to take it out for you today!
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: angelbaby on June 29, 2008, 09:18:41 PM
me three x
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 30, 2008, 06:45:30 AM
What ever it is is still there so am phoning the vet at 9am to get seen today and I have ordered a tick removal tool as well.
Thanks all for your help and info I wont get caught this way again.
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Helen on June 30, 2008, 07:45:28 AM
just to let you know I removed a 'half-full' tick from Jarv's ear this morning (uggghhhhhhh) and it was pink-ish coloured.

once you do remove them a couple of times (with the O-tom) you actually strangely get used to it  ph34r
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 30, 2008, 08:16:46 AM
Thanks just a bit worried as he is not his usual bouncy self this morning so whether this falls off or not we are still off to the vet.  He is 9 y/o and walks the golf course at least twice a week and this has never happened before.  Charlie never does things easy first with pancreatitis then IVDD so we usually pay attention when he seems off colour.  I am so glad I took that piccie yesterday and didnt just assume it was a cyst as he is a senior now. 
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: tiamaria on June 30, 2008, 09:15:35 AM
Thanks just a bit worried as he is not his usual bouncy self this morning so whether this falls off or not we are still off to the vet.  He is 9 y/o and walks the golf course at least twice a week and this has never happened before.  Charlie never does things easy first with pancreatitis then IVDD so we usually pay attention when he seems off colour.  I am so glad I took that piccie yesterday and didnt just assume it was a cyst as he is a senior now. 
Cathy

Aww bless him. Hope everything goes well today!  :luv:
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Helen on June 30, 2008, 09:17:51 AM
Thanks just a bit worried as he is not his usual bouncy self this morning so whether this falls off or not we are still off to the vet.  He is 9 y/o and walks the golf course at least twice a week and this has never happened before.  Charlie never does things easy first with pancreatitis then IVDD so we usually pay attention when he seems off colour.  I am so glad I took that piccie yesterday and didnt just assume it was a cyst as he is a senior now. 
Cathy

awww bless him - hope he's ok  :luv: :luv:

You know your own dog better than anyone else, I'd be off to the vet too  :luv:
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: CarolineL on June 30, 2008, 11:01:30 AM


once you do remove them a couple of times (with the O-tom) you actually strangely get used to it  ph34r

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew - I'll never get used to it   ph34r ph34r  :005: :lol:

I hate doing it so much - OH and I have to do team effort when its tick removal patrol, i remove the little blighter and OH catches it and squishes it. I hate doing it sooooooooo much
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: tiamaria on June 30, 2008, 11:04:23 AM
Might sound awful but i really want to have ago! Never come across one before and im intrigued!  :005:
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Helen on June 30, 2008, 11:06:44 AM


once you do remove them a couple of times (with the O-tom) you actually strangely get used to it  ph34r

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew - I'll never get used to it   ph34r ph34r  :005: :lol:

I hate doing it so much - OH and I have to do team effort when its tick removal patrol, i remove the little blighter and OH catches it and squishes it. I hate doing it sooooooooo much

we keep the o-tom's in the car now Caroline, so if you want to do a tick-eviction post our fritham walk I can offer my services  :005:

tiamaria - it's a bumper tick season, if you can avoid getting a tick this year in any area of the UK I'd be really surprised  ::) Hope you've got your O-tom ready and waiting  ;)
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Rats and Dogs on June 30, 2008, 11:09:42 AM
Removing the first couple is the worst then you do get used to it. Gari got one last week despite having being Frontline Combo'd and I was repulsed and had to get OH to do it. ::)

Did you get an appointment for him?
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: cazza on June 30, 2008, 12:30:43 PM
tiamaria - it's a bumper tick season, if you can avoid getting a tick this year in any area of the UK I'd be really surprised  ::) Hope you've got your O-tom ready and waiting  ;)

I'm touching wood - as so far not found any  :D (you watch I'll be posting later this week that I've found some now  ::) )
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 30, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
Hi all just got back from the vet and Charlie is now tickless the vet having removed the horrible thing which was still living and reckoned that it hadnt attached properly.  So one antibiotic injection later and a 3 month supply of frontline we are sorted, just need the removal tool to arrive I ordered yesterday to arrive.
Never having seen a tick before I am so thankfull you guys are here, and so is Charlie
You are all wonderfull
Cathy and Charlie.   
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: SJP on June 30, 2008, 12:36:04 PM
Charlie is very lucky to have got to 9 y/o without ever having a tick  ::)
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 30, 2008, 12:49:19 PM
Guys I was doing a yahoo to price frontline and I see you need a prescription, I paid £22 for a pack of 3 and could buy this online 3 months for £17 well that £5 would be usefull elsewhere.  Do you guys get a prescription from the vet and buy online or is that a bit of a hassle which would upset the vets who have to give you a prescription and do they still have to give the prescription free of charge,  just doing a bit of forward planning. Which months of the year do you need to use this. 
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Max X 2 on June 30, 2008, 12:54:52 PM
Glad he's now tickless  ;)

This thread may give you some answers  :-\
http://www.cockersonline.co.uk/discuss/index.php?topic=43645.0
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on June 30, 2008, 01:30:21 PM
Thanks this has answered all my questions I will order the ordinary Frontline which doesnt need a prescription and can get 6 months for what I just paid the vet for 3 of the combo, every little helps
Cathy. 
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Magic Star on June 30, 2008, 07:34:42 PM
Just so you know, Frontline, won't actually prevent the ticks from attaching to him, just in case you get a shock if you find another :D

Glad hes ok, ticks are VILE >:(
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on July 01, 2008, 08:19:53 AM
I know OH is at the ready to squash the next one we find after having removed it of course.   :lol2:
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: angelbaby on July 01, 2008, 01:59:05 PM
I know OH is at the ready to squash the next one we find after having removed it of course.   :lol2:
Cathy

urgh i would stand well clear if hes gonna do that!  it might splurt on you!!!!
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on July 01, 2008, 02:54:04 PM
I think he plans to put the bug into a poly bag and squash it.  Not in front of me of course I aint got the stomach for that,
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Rats and Dogs on July 01, 2008, 06:21:06 PM
Glad Charlie is now tickless! OH flushes them down the loo, as as much as I hate ticks, I can't kill anything! :005:

PS, don't worry about upsetting your vet by asking for a prescription if you want Combo, they have to give it to you and fully understand that somepeople want to order online. :D
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Max X 2 on July 01, 2008, 10:19:05 PM
OH flushes them down the loo, as as much as I hate ticks, I can't kill anything! :005:

Just for the record:
Disposing of ticks

To dispose of a tick, drop it into alcohol to kill it, then dispose of it. Flushing them down the toilet will not kill them. Squishing them with a thumbnail is not recommended.  If you have been bitten, then save the tick in a jar of alcohol for identification, to help decide whether possible infection has occurred


Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Rats and Dogs on July 01, 2008, 10:22:17 PM
OH flushes them down the loo, as as much as I hate ticks, I can't kill anything! :005:

Just for the record:
Disposing of ticks

To dispose of a tick, drop it into alcohol to kill it, then dispose of it. Flushing them down the toilet will not kill them. Squishing them with a thumbnail is not recommended.  If you have been bitten, then save the tick in a jar of alcohol for identification, to help decide whether possible infection has occurred




I'm sorry, but I'm not putting a tick into my glass of wine no matter what you say! :005:

PS, Told you I can't kill anything!  ;)

What should we actually do with them?
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: Wightpaws on July 01, 2008, 10:32:13 PM
I think this website sells the combo without prescription, I've purchased from them in the past and it covered fleas and ticks, thought it might be worth a try.

http://www.wormers.co.uk/acatalog/Flea.html (http://www.wormers.co.uk/acatalog/Flea.html)
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: happydog on July 01, 2008, 10:45:37 PM
What should we actually do with them?
Drop them into a container and immerse in neat washing up liquid, shampoo, bleach, or boiling water  :shades: ph34r
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: catcmartin on July 03, 2008, 01:14:59 PM
I told OH how to dispose of the tick, and he says no way is he putting any bug into his whiskey.  even if sometimes it is a cheap one rather than a malt depending on how far away from th next pay check we are
Cathy
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: cazza on July 03, 2008, 03:25:52 PM
What should we actually do with them?
Drop them into a container and immerse in neat washing up liquid, shampoo, bleach, or boiling water  :shades: ph34r

there is some where (I'll have to look for it again) an address where to send the ticks too if you find any for their research
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: happydog on July 03, 2008, 05:48:46 PM
What should we actually do with them?
Drop them into a container and immerse in neat washing up liquid, shampoo, bleach, or boiling water  :shades: ph34r

there is some where (I'll have to look for it again) an address where to send the ticks too if you find any for their research
  :lol2: Just make certain they are dead first, or they will 'walk'  ph34r -they are needed for ID, not for breeding  :shades:.
Title: Re: I think this is a cyst. What do you guys think
Post by: elaine.e on July 03, 2008, 06:50:57 PM
Whatever you do with them, try not to accidentally stand on a full one that's fallen off the dog and onto the carpet. I did that once. Big mistake. It made a horrible popping sound and it took me ages to get the blood out of the carpet. Yuk!