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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: f.a.brook on December 28, 2004, 08:43:11 PM
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hiya all
this is turning into a nightmare as i have a american cocker in full showm coat who keeps loosing lumps of hair. It looks abit like hotspot but it could be a reaction to something but i dont no what any idears? the thing is we have tryed everything to get rid of it but new patches keep turning up i was wondering if any of you people who no :lol: of anything that would help to get rid of it as soon as posible. he is also very itchey even the patches that have healed up and are back to normal
please help me
fiona
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You didn't say how long you have had your A.Cocker but it sort of sounds like a recent acquisition ....
You really need to tke your dog to your Vets so that they can diagnose the condition, otherwise you may end up treating for something quite inappropriate, and all the while your poor dog is getting worse !!
Good luck, and do let us all know how you get on, and what the problem is ...
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hi sue
i have had him since he was a puppy he is now 3 and a half yes this is recent it started over xmas and the vets are only open to Emergencies
at the min i think they open soon hes fine in himself its just this skin problem he also gets small spots and scabby bits
fiona
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Bramble gets scruffy bits, mostly down his back where he can't groom very well - I usually put Tea Tree Oil on them and mostly they go away ...
Skin things are difficult though - my Cockers love to swim in lakes and rivers and sometimes I wonder if there aren't chemicals that irritate their skin in there. Where they play there are ducks, swans and fish all quite happy, so you would think that the water was ok ....
Perhaps it's just his 'tidemarks' - maybe I should bath him more often and give him the all-over massage with his doggy soap that I got from a lady that makes her own ... I have been tempted to use it myself, only I went to Oxford today and called in at the Lush Shop - talk about total sensory overload ....
Most of the things I shall just put in a bowl in my bedroom and sniff up every day, but they have such delicious soap, shampoo, conditioner, cleansers, bath-bombs and anything else you could think of to pamper youself with .... yummmm !
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e have been putting cream on him and it seems to be a little better he is normally bathed every week as he is in clat but lately it has been every couple of days,
he lives outside with his sister and min poodle next door and comes in every day for abit recentally we changed from a plastic bed to a wooden bed but i cant really see why thats doing anything to him someone said to me it could be low/high thyroid problens so hes may well be going to the vets on monday
fiona
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Hello Fiona,
Hope everything goes ok @ the vets on Monday :) . U might find that ur vet will give u Malaseb - a antibacterial & antifungal shampoo.
Our Harvey, had a skin problem last year and that’s what the vet gave us. That and tea tree used daily soon healed and has completely cleared up now.
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You must be careful with tea tree products - there is the danger of the dog reacting to them - its called Tea Tree Toxicity.
http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html (http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html)
http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html (http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html)
If you do use it make sure it is well diluted in a carrier oil, such as grapeseed, almond, or even olive oil.
I wouldn't use Malaseb and Tea tree at the same time as you might well stop the Malaseb from working properly - it has an on going effect - not just when you apply it.
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You must be careful with tea tree products - there is the danger of the dog reacting to them - its called Tea Tree Toxicity.
http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html (http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html)
http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html (http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html)
If you do use it make sure it is well diluted in a carrier oil, such as grapeseed, almond, or even olive oil.
I wouldn't use Malaseb and Tea tree at the same time as you might well stop the Malaseb from working properly - it has an on going effect - not just when you apply it.
I agree with this, you have to be very careful. I dilute tea tree well with water and put in one tiny drop of milk (to disperse the tea tree in the water) and use this as a spray.
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You must be careful with tea tree products - there is the danger of the dog reacting to them - its called Tea Tree Toxicity.
http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html (http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html)
http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html (http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html)
If you do use it make sure it is well diluted in a carrier oil, such as grapeseed, almond, or even olive oil.
I wouldn't use Malaseb and Tea tree at the same time as you might well stop the Malaseb from working properly - it has an on going effect - not just when you apply it.
Tea tree is a 'strong' oil - and should NEVER be used neat onto the skin/body (as in the first of your two examples, Penny) without experienced/qualified supervision.
Essential oils are extremely powerful; don't let the fact you can buy them in the High Street lull you in to any sense of security :ph34r: . Different oils can cause major side effects (abortion, heart failure and anti-coagulation amongst the nastier effects :o ) and regularly interfere with other types of medication. Even the 'nice' smelling ones, like lavender and geranium, can be really dangerous if used incorrectly.
Don't panic regarding 'Tea Tree' products such as shampoo's though - unless they specifically state they contain 'essential oil' they will not contain the active ingredients that cause the side effects, and even if they do contain the essential oil, it is in such low amounts in products such as this as to be harmless unless there is specific sensitivity in the individual dog/cat; a risk with both natural and man-made ingredients of many products, unfortunately :(
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U might find that ur vet will give u Malaseb
I used to use Malaseb frequently with Sasha because she suffered a lot with hotspots. It always worked a treat - plus she smelt nice afterwards too!! :D
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You must be careful with tea tree products - there is the danger of the dog reacting to them - its called Tea Tree Toxicity.
http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html (http://boxerworld.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63972.html)
http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html (http://www.auspet.com/forum/about7651.html)
If you do use it make sure it is well diluted in a carrier oil, such as grapeseed, almond, or even olive oil.
I wouldn't use Malaseb and Tea tree at the same time as you might well stop the Malaseb from working properly - it has an on going effect - not just when you apply it.
Tea tree is a 'strong' oil - and should NEVER be used neat onto the skin/body (as in the first of your two examples, Penny) without experienced/qualified supervision.
Essential oils are extremely powerful; don't let the fact you can buy them in the High Street lull you in to any sense of security :ph34r: . Different oils can cause major side effects (abortion, heart failure and anti-coagulation amongst the nastier effects :o ) and regularly interfere with other types of medication. Even the 'nice' smelling ones, like lavender and geranium, can be really dangerous if used incorrectly.
Don't panic regarding 'Tea Tree' products such as shampoo's though - unless they specifically state they contain 'essential oil' they will not contain the active ingredients that cause the side effects, and even if they do contain the essential oil, it is in such low amounts in products such as this as to be harmless unless there is specific sensitivity in the individual dog/cat; a risk with both natural and man-made ingredients of many products, unfortunately :(
If I remember rightly though lavendar can be used neat (its the only one).
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Pure tea tree oil has to be used with care as it is toxic in some dogs (can kill them).
Lavendar I use neat (as per a pet aromatherapist I know) in small amounts
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hi all
we have got it sorted with out a trip to the vets i bathed him in jds and put some cream on to help the spots and it has really help then on satadat we were at a open show and i was talking to the man who sells nupro, he told me that my dog was lacking in something but i cant remember what and that the powder he sells will help him in the future as it is a type of thing that will keep coming back it takes about 3 to 4 weeks to start working so i will keep you posted on how he goes
fiona :D