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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Neon on January 31, 2012, 05:57:30 PM
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I noticed yesterday that the hair at the bottom of Toby's right eyelid (directly above his eyelashes) has gone very thin and you can see his skin. There aren't any other symptoms, apart from that his eye looks fine. Does anyone know what this could be. It seems weird :huh:
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Has he been rubbing his face on the carpet or when you are out Mel??
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No Di, he tends not to scratch either.
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Mmmmmm that's a tricky one :-\ can't help you there Mel but no doubt someone will know :lol2: x x x
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Thank Heaven for Google
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No advice but Willow says she hopes Tobes eye lid is better soon. :bigarmhug:
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Seems it could be this:
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/demodectic-mange-in-dogs-symptoms-and-treatment.html
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This happened to Lillie a couple of years ago. TBH I didn't take her to the vet as the skin was not inflamed and she didn't seem irritated by it ph34r A month or so later was completely normal, and has been so ever since. I will be interested to see if any others have any advice/experience :D
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This happened to Lillie a couple of years ago. TBH I didn't take her to the vet as the skin was not inflamed and she didn't seem irritated by it ph34r A month or so later was completely normal, and has been so ever since. I will be interested to see if any others have any advice/experience :D
Not sure whether the skin is inflamed, it looks a bit pink but he's not scratching at all. Still, I think a trip to the vet is in order if only to put my mind at rest. Thanks.
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Let us know how he gets on at the vets.....
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I will. :luv:
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Toby been to vet this evening. I googled his symptoms the other night and was worried that he may have a form of mange that affects puppies as their immune systems are not fully developed but the vet says it's not that.
So, Tobes had a very thorough examination of his eyes. His right eye has a small, raised lump just above his eyelid. Also, when his eyelid was pulled upwards, the vet noticed some lesions. He says there are a number of causes for this - infection, foreign body but he wasn't sure at the moment so is treating is as an infection. Toby has to go back next week for another examination and if there is no improvement, the vet will investigate further to try and find what is causing it, maybe an operation. In the meantime, Tobes has had anti inflam and anti bac jabs, two lots of tablets including steroids and eye drops. I've also got to apply a hot poultice to his eye twice a day in case it is a foreign body, which will help to draw it out.
Also, I had the vet check Toby's joints as well as he "clicks" sometimes when changing position. Again he had a good examination of mainly his hips and knees. Vet says nothing obvious at the moment and at Toby's young age, it could just be things "settling down". If I'm still noticing anything in a couple of months time, they will xray his hips.
So, needless to say, I'm worried for my little guy and hope there is some improvement next week.
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Hmmm.... good that nothing has shown up, but I can understand why you feel a bit unsure. Hope things sort themselves out before your next visit.
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Aww poor Tobes,though i bet you are more worried than he is.I think silica is good at drawing things out,or am i thinking about collodial silver :huh: Helen will know.
I have found cheese a very good bribery tool to get eye drops in,but if you are in any doubt next visit ask your vet to refer you to a specialist (opthalmologist) as vets do have a habit of "we will try this and then try that" etc not saying yours does Neon :D but eyes are so delicate and precious.
Hope little Tobes makes a speedy recovery :luv:
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Blimey Mel poor Toby :luv: hope he recovers soon and that he doesn't need an operation :luv: poor bluegirls little phoebe has had an op on her eye today :luv: :luv: x x x
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Hopefully things will settle down by next week. :luv:
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Poor Tobes, Willow and I send our love and hope you notice some improvement soon xx
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I hope it is an infection and things start to settle down. :luv:
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Poor Toby! I hope it is all better soon :D
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Hope you're better soon Toby
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Thanks for the good wishes everyone, will update after next week.
vets do have a habit of "we will try this and then try that" etc not saying yours does Neon :D but eyes are so delicate and precious.
Yes Toni, my vet says this too. If I'm not happy next week, I will ask about referral to a specialist. x
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I think that is a great idea. I am a great believer in seeing specialists rather than going through a whole gamut of treatments xx. Hope Toby gets better real soon pet :blink:
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I think that is a great idea. I am a great believer in seeing specialists rather than going through a whole gamut of treatments xx. Hope Toby gets better real soon pet :blink:
Sheryl, I couldn't agree more, why fill him up with drugs, when the cause is not clear, and an examination by the specialist would reveal the exact problem :huh:
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Hope you are feeling better soonest Toby
Lots of cocker squishes, cuddels and kisses from my crew
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Just seen this ..........hope Toby's eyes are soon back to normal and no intervention is needed . :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :-* :-* from Mollie and me :-*
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Hows Tobys eye now?
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Still looks the same at the moment Maddy. Will know more after next visit to the vet on Thursday, hopefully.
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ahhh,we are thinking of you anyway :D
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Toby's been to vet again tonight. Swelling on eyelid and lesions have reduced a lot. He's had another course of antibiotics and eye drops. I've got to phone the vet in two weeks to update him but if the condition has deteriorated then, the vet will do an exploratory op. So fingers crossed it will clear completely in the next week or two.
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Thats good news its reduced a lot :D hope he continues to improve. xx
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Great news :D Hope it continues to improve :-*
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glad that it's looking better.. and I hope it continues to do so ... :bigarmhug: 's for both of you x
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Great news,that's very encouraging that he seems to be responding to the anti b's :D
Well done Tobes,and well done Mel for getting the drops in :005:
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Thanks everyone. Just hope it clears completely in the next couple of weeks.
Well done Tobes,and well done Mel for getting the drops in :005:
Toni, Tobes has been so good. I put his chin on my knee, open his eye with one hand and put the drops in with the other. I think he realises it has to be done so has sat there like a good boy while I did it. Only missed once at the beginning :005:
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Good boy Tobes :luv: :luv:
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Thanks everyone. Just hope it clears completely in the next couple of weeks.
Well done Tobes,and well done Mel for getting the drops in :005:
Toni, Tobes has been so good. I put his chin on my knee, open his eye with one hand and put the drops in with the other. I think he realises it has to be done so has sat there like a good boy while I did it. Only missed once at the beginning :005:
You are right,he is an angel :angel:.When i had to put steroid drops in Rubys eyes she was a complete moo and the places i had to put the tube of primula to distract her were something else ph34r but i do think they may have stung her eyes :-\
She has eye flush and lubricant twice a day now with no bother......oh the power of cheddar cheese :lol2:
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It never rains but it pours, as they say. >:D Tobes had the trots a bit yesterday and I thought it was the milk in the scrambled eggs which I gave him. Last night about 8pm he started with the diarwotsits and still hasn't stopped. I was up all night with the little guy. He was in and out all night about twice an hour. I was cleaning up as best I could. The outside tap was frozen so I was carting buckets of disenfectant out all night. He hasn't eaten since 5pm yesterday, is quiet and I'm having to spoon water down him. He's had Pro Kolin which hasn't done any good. I think I spotted some dark red blood in his poo as well. He's wrapped in a blanket because he has been shivering (even though the house is nice and warm). He's already on antibiotics for his eye so I'm worried it might not be just an infection. The vet couldn't get him in until 3.50 today. Please wish that Toby feels better soon. :'( Thanks.
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Oh no poor boy :'(
I hope he is ok :luv: :luv:
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Oh poor little man...hope the vet manages to make him feel better and he has a speedy recovery
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Oh Toby poppet... you are really in the wars aren't you :'( Hope the vet is able to pinpoint what the problem is and its just an unhappy coincidence. Will be thinking of you at the vets - maybe his tummy is reacting to the longer term use of the antibiotics :-\
Hope you get some answers and Tobes is feeling well again soon :luv: :luv: :luv:
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:bigarmhug: hope Toby feels better soon :luv:
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MaggieR I was going to say the same thing about the anitbiotics sometimes they do give them the diawotsits or may be Toby has a touch of colitis?? Oh Mel I do hope he is ok great big :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:'s for you and little cocker :-* :-* to Toby from phoebe and mia x x x
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Poor Toby :bigarmhug: Hope the vet can quickly sort him out :D
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Ahh poor little Toby.
It's not nice when they're up all night at all :(
I spent the night on the sofa with one of ours only the other week.
He had an anti inflam and antibiotic injection at the vets and seemed fine the day after.
Just kept him on bland food for about a week too.
Hope Toby is better real soon. :bigarmhug:
Emma and boys x
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just caught up on all this....poor toby.. :'( :'(
He is probably shivering because he has a temperature, keep on pushing those fluids even if its only by spoon/syringe....
i wouldnt offer him any food at the minute(he probably wouldnt take it anyway)....and maybe when the diawotsits tail off a little plain boiled rice...
i really hope poor tobes feels better very soon, its so worrying when they are poorly xxxxx
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Oh Mel! Just caught up with this thread -poor little Toby has been in the wars. Lots of :bigarmhug: and kisses and hope he feels better soon. Its horrible when they are not themselves :'(
Lots of woofs and kisses from Ollie and Poppy as well. xx
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Thanks everyone for your kind wishes.
Vet has diagnosed colitis. When he took his temperature there was fresh blood on the thermometer, which apparently is a sign of inflammation. When he examined Tobe's tummy, he could feel loads of fluid in there so he's not dehydrated. I was worried he might have had parvo. I can't feed him until tomorrow morning and he hasn't had anything to eat since 5pm yesterday. He's sleepy and cuddled up in his crate next to the radiator right now. He's got more anti inflam tablets and some medicine which will bind him, hopefully. The vet says there should be improvement tomorrow, otherwise he has to go back on Monday. Phew, I hate seeing him ill and I can't wait to be able to give him some food in the morning. (Tobywoo you really worry your Mummy sometimes) :luv:
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Awww, hugs to you and Toby
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Awww Toby, hope the meds kick in very very soon and you start to feel better soon :luv: :luv: :luv:
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Poor Toby...hope he feels better soon :luv: :luv:
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Poor Toby, I hope he feels better soon :bigarmhug:
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oh Mel, I'm sorry poor Toby is feeling worse ... I hope he picks up soon .. lots of :bigarmhug: 's for you and my little birthday 'twin' cocker buddy Tobes xxxx
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Blimey Mel, just caught up on this thread. Poor Tobes :'( Willow was diagnosed with colitis when younger but touch wood had been okay since around october time. We were often finding she would get the trots and it often contained blood and mucus, so we would have to feed chicken and rice and 6 small meals for a few days and then she would shed weight and that was a worry. At 14months she seems fine now. I know on the meet you said Tobes suffered upset tums. Willow was then put on the royal canin sensitivity control kibble and that seemed to do the trick and she gained weight :D We always keep pro kolin paste in as willow sometimes eat nasties when out on a walk and becomes sloppy ish although nothing like what she was. Willow sends her friend Tobes a big get well hug xxxx
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Oh Mel, I hope he gets better soon, poor fellah. I feel for both of you - it's awful when they are poorly, especially during the night times when the hours seem to drag. Thinking of you both. x
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Hope Tobes is feeling a little better this morning
:bigarmhug: thinking of you both.
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Hows Tobes today? x
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Thanks all.
Tobes is acting more like his normal self today, running around like a loon and trying to pickpocket tissues and snatch cloths from my hand! I'm trying to get him to rest but I think winning the lottery would be easier. :005: He was very settled in the night but so far this morning he is still pooping about 2/3 times an hour and it is still sloppy and slimey but no blood. Fed him this morning, as vet advised, and he woolfed it down, looking for more. He's had a similar thing twice before but it has totally cleared up after a couple of days but this seems to be going on forever. I don't really feel there is a big improvement, considering the medication he's taking. I'm worried what will happen in a few hours now that he's eaten a small meal, I'm also a bit worried of feeding him again at lunchtime. We'll see what happens today and if no improvement then back to the vet tomorrow.
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:005: :005: cheeky Toby .. glad he's on the mend x
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Fingers crossed that things settle down :luv:
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Pleased to hear he is better today :luv:
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How's he doing after his chicken and rice tonight Mel?? hope he's managed to hang on to it :luv: :luv: x x x
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Oh Mel,i stay away for one evening and you have had more drama.Poor little Tobes,hope he has picked up a bit more now bless him,and i hope you've had a big fat glass of wine to get over the hoo-hah ;)
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Hope you are feeling better Tobes. :bigarmhug:
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How's he doing after his chicken and rice tonight Mel?? hope he's managed to hang on to it :luv: :luv: x x x
Took him seconds to eat it Di but hope it takes him much longer to part with it. :005: Fingers crossed.
Oh Mel,i stay away for one evening and you have had more drama.Poor little Tobes,hope he has picked up a bit more now bless him,and i hope you've had a big fat glass of wine to get over the hoo-hah ;)
Sanatogen more like, Toni :005: