Anti-biotic resistant lip-fold pyoderma

[Dunton4]

Poor Tilly    She has been on anti-biotics for at least 3 weeks for infected lip-folds with no improvement.  My vet has just 'phoned me with the results of the swab analysis and Tilly has a range of bacteria present, including pseudomonas which is resistant to the two types of anti-biotics she has previously been prescribed.  No wonder they were having no impact  .  She is now on baytril which the vet says is the only anti-biotic they have to treat pseudomonas.  She has to go back for a check-up on Christmas Eve.  Has anyone any experience of pseudomonas infection?  I understand this particular bacteria is hard to get rid of so I don't know how long Tilly will be suffering for and I really hope the baytril sorts it out.  Poor Tilly.  Definitely looks like the face-lift option for her once we have the infection sorted out.  Oh well, New Year, new face eh Tills 

Sue and Tilly aka smelly chops

[elaine.e]

Poor Tilly and poor you having to put up with the anxiety (not to mention the smell)  . No experience of pseudomonas here, but on the positive side, at least the culprit has been identified so fingers crossed the new antibiotics will be effective.

My first Cocker, Josh, had an ongoing problem with lip fold infections on one side of his mouth. It would improve a bit but then flare up again. He eventually had a nip and tuck on that side, which he recovered from very quickly, and it sorted out the problem for good. I'm sure it will do the same for Tilly if that's what she ends up having done.

[Michele]

Sorry to hear that poor Tilly is suffering (and your noses too), have you tried wiping the area with colloidal silver? I used it when Meg had an ear infection where pseudomonas was present and it certainly seemed to help.

http://www.caninenaturalcures.co.uk/silver.htm

[Dunton4]

Thanks Elaine - Tilly's is on one side, but I am wondering whether to have the other side "nip and tucked" as well to avoid a problem.  I'm sure my vet will advise me if that's necessary.  On the one hand I have put off having this done because I don't want to put Tilly through the op, but on the other hand, this is a horrible experience for her and she is clearly in pain (she cries when I wipe her mouth and it bleeds  )

Thanks for that link, Michele.  That stuff looks really interesting - I will give it a try.  I wonder whether it might do the trick for my Dad's eczema too    I don't like him having to use steroid cream all the time.  I could get it for both of them.

Sue and Tilly (who still gets her cuddles, despite the whiff it's stil worth it  )

[ladylola]

This is what Paisley has. He had it in his ears resulting in ear canal removal.

He also has it in his lipfolds.  His is also antibiotic resistant.  

He has had many months of Baytril. didn't work.  Colloidal silver didn't work either for him.

The specialist gave us Flamazine cream. [Silver Sulfadiazine] It's very good it contains Silver.

Pseudomonas is very hard to get rid of and it smells terrible too.

If the Baytril doesn't work, ask about the Flamazine it is a human product. My vet got it for me.

Paisley may well go on to have the op as I have great difficulty getting the cream on him now.

But it does work.

[LouiseH]

My Georgia had the face lift op a few years ago and has had no problems since - she's approaching her 9th Birthday now 

Definitely the best decision I ever made as just a trip to the vets is traumatic for her.

[Dunton4]

Thanks for the suggestions of things to try.  I spoke to the vet about them today, but although she said they might well help, she said that as Tilly's dermatitis in near her mouth, she couldn't advise we try colloidal silver or flamazine owing to the risk of ingestion.  Apparently  both contain a metal (silver!), which is toxic when ingested.  So we are continuing with the Baytril for now.  Is it my imagination, or is Tilly slightly less smelly at the moment?  Hope so, poor little girl, she has had this for long enough now.  Thanks for the report on the face lift Louise.  We'll definitely try that once we have the infection under control.


Sue and Tilly

[paulette]

I have had Honey for since August 2009 she is a Many Tears dog, she has a lip-fold problem she was on Baydril then had a operation, which I don't feel was done correctly so the poor dog has been on Baydril and other Antibiotics and we has use creams, we have now change vets she on more Antibiotic's and we went back Christams Eve, more medication which I am not happy about, she goes back in the New year she has the same infection that your dog has her mouth is raw, I am so cross that the dog is still suffering, so it looks like more surgery, we are now four months with this problem, this poor dog has had lots of problem and lots of surgery. We would love to adopt another dog but although we have Honey insured her pre existing problems are ruled out, lig-fold ear infections, growths on her body, and eye problems, but this dog is such a sweet heartand an infected paw, we have so far spent thousands but it all been well worth it, we love her so much.    good luck with your little Angel and I will update you on Honey's progress.

[Dunton4]

Poor Tilly has to go in to the vet's to have her lips cleaned and shaved under sedation on Thursday  .  The vet is concerned that the Baytril doesn't seem to be working.  She says we'll have one more go of clearing up the infection, otherwise Tilly will have to have the op with the infection present, which really worries me.  Poor Tilly is getting very defensive of her mouth and I can't say I blame her really.

How is Honey doing?

Sue and Tilly (stinky and sore  )

[paulette]

Honey still has a big problem with her mouth we are still on the Antibiotics, she had her mouth clipped and cleaned the last time we were at the vets, we are due to go back, so see what happens but she is going to need more surgery, why could they not get it right the first time she had surgery, it makes my blood boil, I have change vet and he is very good, poor Honey is so good about having her mouth cleaned but it is so painful for her, we are so lucky to have such a wonderful little girl, she also has problems with her eye so will need to have some surgery on them as well. Good lucky to Tilly big kiss from Honey to Tilly x     

[bracken]

Bailey has a lip fold infection at the moment she is on antibiotics and steriod cream. we also bath her chops with HiBi scrub and dry afterwards it still looking sore though she been on Meds since Saturday.

hope all goes well for Tilly on Thursday will be thinking of her 

Jo

[ladylola]

Paisley was on Baytril for 8 months for his ear and lipfold infection. They did not work. Had the op for his ear but still had problems with his mouth. My vet wanted to give him more Baytril. I refused. It just wasn't working.
She said there was another AB Called Marbocyl which is similar to Baytril. I said I would try that. He was on it for 40 days and this has made a difference. I also took him off Kibble [AG] and have put all my dogs back on Raw [Natures Instinct] So far his mouth seems to be OK. No smell and not sore looking. Not using anything on his mouth at the moment and so far so good. I did manage to get some of the flamazine cream on him on occasions. [He is not very compliant] I think Paisleys problems are due to Allergies. It's a wait and see game for me but so far so good.

[Dunton4]

Thank you for your kind thoughts for Tilly.  She went in today for her clean-up and the vet says it's really bad on her left-hand side    Tilly is very subdued after the experience, but has enjoyed her special meal of boiled chicken this evening 

Thank you for your thoughts on the alternative AB, Julie.  I will definitely ask my vet about Marbocyl.  Interestingly Tilly is on AG too - I will discuss changing her diet with the vet too.  I have to try to put the Baytril on her lip in liquid form using a cotton bud    I am not at all optimistic that Tilly will let me do this, but will try anything.  The vet has taken a further swab for more tests to see if there are any further bacteria there in addition to the pseudomonas.  Happy Days 

After our holiday last week I now know a lot more specialist vocabulary in French - lip-folds, dermatitis, Baytril (in french this is "Baytrrrrril"!  )  I hope I won't need to use it when we next visit.

Sue and Tilly (a little more fragrant tonight  )

[Dunton4]

Just a quick update to say that Tilly has now been prescribed Marbocyl for her resistant lip-fold infection.  Fingers crossed! 

Sue and Tilly

[paulette]

Hi fingers crossed that the problem clears up, we go back with Honey on Saturday for a check up, Honey is no better we clean her mouth twice a day which she does not like its red and painful, she been on Antibiotics since August, so I think it time to look at surgery, she had surgery done three months ago, but my new vet said it was not done right which makes me cross, not for me but for poor Honey. Will update at the weekend.