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Offline Mitchy74

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'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« on: July 15, 2013, 10:36:56 AM »
Hi all,

We have a 2.5 year old cocker bred from a lady in Aberdeen that has been a bit of a problem since we have had her as a pup. Hopefully some may be able to help or advise as the vets havent been too great.

Around the 6 month mark we noticed that she seemed to be looking past you and couldnt see toys etc till they hit the floor, then started running into things like doors/chair legs/human legs. We took her to the vet assuming there was an issue with the sight and he said that she was partially blind and referred us to the vet school in Edinburgh, 5 minutes there and several hundred pounds lighter they said there is nothing wrong with her.

Since then she has been crabby, still looks like she cant see and seems to have developed a shake in the eyes....that strange freaky way almost like a childs doll. You simply can not touch her on the back of the head or crouch over her or she gets very aggressive and snarly. When you put her into her cage which is essentially the naughty step she just sits and growels at you.  More so of late this has been getting worse where she just tenses up and turns on you with the teeth out. I'm a 32 year old guy and she had me backed in a corner last week with it.....very unpleasent and very hard work for my mum who adores the dog. They cant have visitors round, she cant play with other dogs (went straigt for my labs throat) and clearly cant be trusted with kids which is particularly bad as she is a stunning looking little dog.

Reading up on it, I dont think its any sort of 'rage' but instead think there is something actually wrong, a problem in behind here eyes perhaps in the head??? A three paragraph post here really doesnt do it justice unfortunately as to how bad it is.

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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 10:49:53 AM »
I don't have any ideas but someone will probably be along soon.  Are there any other vets nearby for a second opinion or would that upset the first one too much?

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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 11:03:25 AM »
Hello there and welcome -

I agree with you about it potentially being a neurological problem  :-\  She may also be in pain which is why she has been aggressive.

I would seek a second opinion from another vet and detail to them every little thing that you feel is not normal behaviour and then push for a referral to a specialist.

I hope you can find a solution for your lovely girl  :luv:
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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 11:13:46 AM »
Thanks folks, yes Helen I agree regarding the pain issue too, it crossed my mind.

We have used the same vets for years for all our animals from cattle to horses to dogs so they are pretty well clued up on both us and our animals, I just think with this breed its all too easy to blame other things for deeper lying problems.

Will make the appointment!!


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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 12:23:29 PM »
might be a good idea to video an episode when she has one of these episodes so the vet can see what actually happens. Wobbly eyes suggest to me neuro as well a scan perhaps needs to be done

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 12:25:34 PM »
might be a good idea to video an episode when she has one of these episodes so the vet can see what actually happens. Wobbly eyes suggest to me neuro as well a scan perhaps needs to be done

That is an excellent idea; I agree; get a second opinion :)
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 12:28:05 PM »
Is she losing her eye sight ? Maybe she's not expecting you to touch her and then when you do her frightens her and she growls !

Its just the first thing I thought of when you said wobbly eyes !

Hope she's ok ? Look forward to hearing how she gets on . Poor you and her !
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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 12:30:26 PM »
Someone on another group I'm a member of did that as her vet was dismissive over his symptoms until he saw the video. It does sound like there is something much deeper going on with her. Hope you get to the bottom of it soon.

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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 12:39:02 PM »
might be a good idea to video an episode when she has one of these episodes so the vet can see what actually happens. Wobbly eyes suggest to me neuro as well a scan perhaps needs to be done

Excellent idea.... just wont get too close! At times thought its an 'as and when' and over very quickly!

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 12:41:54 PM »
Is she losing her eye sight ? Maybe she's not expecting you to touch her and then when you do her frightens her and she growls !

Its just the first thing I thought of when you said wobbly eyes !

Hope she's ok ? Look forward to hearing how she gets on . Poor you and her !

We thought that at the outset, almost like having blind spots resulting in her running into things directly infront of her.... she now looks out the corners at times (almost like looking past/through you) but bizzarly she can see and chase a bird at the other side of the garden.
When she went for my lab, I had to pick her up to get her clear of the cocker..... as soon as she was off the ground the cocker was running around unable to see her even though she was only a few feet in the air.

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 05:44:36 PM »
So does she have little episodes ? She's not like that all the time ?

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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 05:59:35 PM »
So does she have little episodes ? She's not like that all the time ?



I dont stay with them but would say theres probably 1/2 aggressive moments each day. You would never trust her as its only one quick movement away from a growl etc too. She's definately worsewith 'outsiders' as opposed to my mum but is steadilygetting worse with her too.

I was watching her earlier in her naughty cage, head just swaying like she was asleep but eyes wide open!


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Re: 'Shakey eyes' and visual impairment
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 07:21:30 PM »
I think all the advice that you have been given is excellent and I hope that something is diagnosed and soon so she can  be treated for this. What a shame for your mum too and it must be a huge strain on you all xx