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Cocker Specific Discussion => Rescue Cockers => Topic started by: kirstyb on August 06, 2010, 08:31:38 PM
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08-06-10 Nimble is a beautiful 12 week old female cocker spaniel. She has been returned to the breeder who has given her to us to re home as she is deaf. This dear sweet girl is disorientated at the moment, circling a lot. She is a happy girly who comes up for a fuss and a cuddle and so deserves a home and person to call her own.
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, She is absolutely stunning :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv:
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She is an absolutely stunning girl! Hope she finds her new home soon :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv:
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oh my she is just beeeeeauutifullllll :luv: :luv: :luv:
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What a stunningly pretty little girl, hope she finds her loving home soon :luv:
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She is stunning so beautiful :luv: :luv: :luv: How could you give her back :'(
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She is stunning so beautiful :luv: :luv: :luv: How could you give her back :'(
I couldn't, I know that.
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She is absolutely stunning - poor little baby :luv:
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She is stunning so beautiful :luv: :luv: :luv: How could you give her back :'(
Some people are heartless :'( :'( and what a cruddy breeder passing her on again to a rescue >:(.
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She is so incredibly beautiful, poor little love. She deserves a brilliant home, I hope she gets it :luv: :luv:
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OOOOOOOOO she is gorgeous :luv:
Sorry I am gonna defend the breeder here - at least by handing her to the rescue the breeder will have the safe knowledge that who the rescue let have her will be the correct owner for her and so she will not be passed from pillar to post - and the rescue will most prob have more knowledge on deaf dogs than the breeder so will be able to find her a forever home and give the new owner all the information and help with having a deaf dog
Now if only I could have another dog I would snap this one up as she is gorgeous :luv: , but I can't :'(
Hope she finds her forever home real soon with someone who can devote the time to her that she needs
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What a sweetie, hope she is not waiting long :-*
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She is stunning so beautiful :luv: :luv: :luv: How could you give her back :'(
Some people are heartless :'( :'( and what a cruddy breeder passing her on again to a rescue >:(.
Not sure I agree with that comment about the breeder, the breeders may well not be a puppy farm but may not be able to keep her for a variety of reasons (not having the time that is needed to train a deaf pup being one) thre are lots of more terrible and irresponsible things they could have done with her. Many Tears will ensure she gets the best home possible so not such a bad thing really. Not sure I could have taken her back to the breeder though if she were my pup :-\
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So the owner is bad for not wanting/have the time to train a deaf pup but the breeder isn't? I have no experience of dog breeding other than what I have read on here but I would have thought the breeder has just as much responsibility for the dog as the new owner. Every new member that mentions breeding from their dog gets informed of the importance of being responsible for the pups if the new owners can't/won't keep them. I have no experience in training deaf dogs either so is this the responsible thing to do? (and that was a genuine question not a sarcastic comment ;))
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oh my... :luv: :luv: :luv: no I musn't...
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Incidentally, our experience with Jeff is that if you've got another dog to lead the deaf one, most of the time you'd never realise the difference. Please will someone rehome her pronto before I can't stop myself ph34r
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So the owner is bad for not wanting/have the time to train a deaf pup but the breeder isn't? I have no experience of dog breeding other than what I have read on here but I would have thought the breeder has just as much responsibility for the dog as the new owner. Every new member that mentions breeding from their dog gets informed of the importance of being responsible for the pups if the new owners can't/won't keep them. I have no experience in training deaf dogs either so is this the responsible thing to do? (and that was a genuine question not a sarcastic comment ;))
Not quite what I was getting at :-\ If I were the breeder I would have kept her, If I were the new owner I would have kept her IF I thought that were the best thing for the pup. I don't blame the breeder or the owner for doing a responsible thing, I know MT will find her the best home possible. The breeder is responsible for the long term welfare of any pups she breeds and I am sorry if you don't agree but I think the breeder has been responsible in handing her in to a well respected rescue centre that will find her the very best home :-\
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So the owner is bad for not wanting/have the time to train a deaf pup but the breeder isn't? I have no experience of dog breeding other than what I have read on here but I would have thought the breeder has just as much responsibility for the dog as the new owner. Every new member that mentions breeding from their dog gets informed of the importance of being responsible for the pups if the new owners can't/won't keep them. I have no experience in training deaf dogs either so is this the responsible thing to do? (and that was a genuine question not a sarcastic comment ;))
Not quite what I was getting at :-\ If I were the breeder I would have kept her, If I were the new owner I would have kept her IF I thought that were the best thing for the pup. I don't blame the breeder or the owner for doing a responsible thing, I know MT will find her the best home possible. The breeder is responsible for the long term welfare of any pups she breeds and I am sorry if you don't agree but I think the breeder has been irresponsible in handing her in to a well respected rescue centre that will find her the very best home :-\
I see what you're saying. I suppose me calling the breeder cruddy was harsh, I'd just been looking at the ex breeding girls and was getting a bit angry.
But ( ph34r) I think with the overwhelming amount of dogs in rescue and being PTS as there is no space for them then anyone considering breeding must take things like this into consideration.
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What a stunning little girl.....I wonder if she would be ok with my two boys :luv: they are very gentle.
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What a stunning little girl.....I wonder if she would be ok with my two boys :luv: they are very gentle.
Course she would :D
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As for the breeder/owner argument, Jeff was returned to his breeder the day after he went to his new home - no-one realised he was deaf until he left the litter. The new owners were first time dog owners and had no other dog, so it wouldn't have been the best home for him. The breeder contacted the CSS which is how I found out about him; if we hadn't had him she would have kept him. It does seem a shame this little soul has had to go to a rescue, so has effectively had three homes in her short little life :'(, and couldn't just stay with the breeder until a new home was found (by MT), but then she may be from a farm I guess.
Just to reiterate, training a deaf puppy really is no harder then training a hearing one, you just need a little more patience, especially with toilet training (you can't say "no" to it, so have to be ready to jump up and move the pup as soon as it squats :lol2:), another dog, a secure garden and good, secure off-lead walks (more for peace of mind than anything; if either dog was to stray onto a road it would be Annie not Jeff ::)). Jeff is actually better at recall than Annie (as long as he's looking at you and not sniffing), and doesn't go nearly as far away.
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Aww she is just adoooooreable :luv: I really hope she is lucky enough to have a COL home :D Go for it Henshallboys ;)
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I wish my two 'hooman' boys would hurry and grow up so I had more time :005:
She's just adorable! :luv:
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Hi everyone :D
My name is Adrienne and I am a fosterer for Many Tears. Nimble :luv: is coming on foster to me tomorrow so I can let you know how she is getting on!
I was recommended Cockers Online as an excellent source of information for all things cocker hence my registration. Although I have fostered numerous dogs already, Nimble is my first cocker and also my first deaf dog, so would welcome any advice from those who have experience of deaf dogs.
We believe that she may not be totally deaf but obviously I will assess that once she is here. She is also in the habit of circling, which is something I need to deal with, hopefully this could just be because she is stressed and worried :'(
I have 3 dogs of my own here to help her, Tilly an Irish Lab, Nala a MT ex breeding Weimeraner (failed foster :shades:!) and Fifi a MT ex puppy farm 6 month old cavvy puppy (also a failed foster! :005:).
Hopefully Fifi will be a nice playmate for her and Tilly and Nala calming influences.
By the way for any of you thinking of applying for her, we are in Dursley, Gloucestershire. ;)
Adrienne
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What a stunning little girl.....I wonder if she would be ok with my two boys :luv: they are very gentle.
Course she would :D
2 big brothers.................. sounds perfect :luv:
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By the way for any of you thinking of applying for her, we are in Dursley, Gloucestershire. ;)
Adrienne
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OMG I am soooo glad that I have been down to Glos and back up here in Scotland or I would have been round like a shot , she is gorgeous and if i wasn't working I could be very tempted to take her on (yes I would travel the 400 miles to get her too )
Welcome to COL by the way and can we have more pics of her and an update how she settles in with you and your lot please pretty please - I hope she is gonna find her forever home real soon, and who knows you could be a FF for the 3rd time :shades:
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Hello and welcome to COL Adrienne (eloisecherry). :D
You will find this forum very helpful and friendly.
I SO admire people like you who foster dogs. I would love to do it myself but am not in a position yet (I work part-time).
I wish you the best of wishes with little Nimble and it would be lovely if you could post photos of her as she gains confidence.
I am sure a home will be found quickly for this little poppet.
Bless you for giving these little dogs a second chance. :bigarmhug:
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Thank you for your lovely welcome :D
Of course I will take pictures of little Miss Nimble for you to look at. In the meantime here is one of Fifi :luv: :luv:our Cavvy puppy who came to us with Mange, lungworm and ear mites.... :'(
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Nala :luv: :luv:our Weimeraner who had a miserable existence at a Puppy Farm and is a very shy girl :'(
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And finally Matilda Mary (Tilly) :luv: :luv:an Irish Stray for Dog's Trust who is personality plus and a tad naughty!!
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I notice that all of the MT Cocker's are listed on here which is wonderful. Does someone keep an eye on the main MY website and then post them here too?
Adrienne
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Hello + welcome to col from another MT fosterer :D
Nimble is :luv: - give her a cuddle from us! :luv: :luv:
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Welcome! Fifi and Tilly are beautiful but I have to admit I'm just a bit in love with Nala :luv: :luv:
A lot of cockers that come up in rescue make their way here and are crossposted here by any of our members but if there is an easier way and better system then by all means let us know ;)
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Hello Adrienne, I have Jeff (Mutt n Jeff) and the most remarkable thing about having a deaf puppy for me has been how unremarkable it has been! He's really not that different. The only differences I have noticed are:
- Toilet training - as mentioned, you have to be a lot quicker off the ball and it takes a bit longer!
- He is more clingy than any of the hearing dogs I've had. He follows me everywhere; even stares through the crack in the loo door and waits until I've finished! However, this may be his personality or because we have mollycoddled him more rather than because he's deaf.
- You do need to treat a deaf dog more like a toddler - try and minimise as many risks as possible, as you can't call it or attract it's attention as you can another dog.
- Get the puppy used to referring to you as much as possible so that it looks to you for instructions. Lots of cuddles and treats! You probably will find yourself giving more attention to the deaf puppy than you will your other dogs, but I think that's necessary as it will need lots of reassurance and physical contact.
- Don't leave her alone if she has fallen asleep when you're there - she may panic and get a bit frantic. Give her a gentle tap on the bum to wake her.
- In fact, I would never leave Jeff alone full stop. He always at least has Annie with him.
- Devise some really basic hand signals and stick to them. Come, wee, good, no, sit. Use exaggerated facial expressions.
You are SO lucky having such a beautiful little girl. Give her all the love, cuddles and contact you possibly can, and you will be rewarded with the most amazing companion ever.
Hopefully Becky and Wilson will see this and have more to add ;)
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Hello + welcome to col from another MT fosterer :D
Nimble is :luv: - give her a cuddle from us! :luv: :luv:
Hiya! :D
Nice to meet a fellow fosterer! Do you have a foster at the moment?
I've recently waved goodbye to Fudge the sweetest ever ex puppy farm choccie lab girl - I so wanted to keep her!
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Welcome! Fifi and Tilly are beautiful but I have to admit I'm just a bit in love with Nala :luv: :luv:
A lot of cockers that come up in rescue make their way here and are crossposted here by any of our members but if there is an easier way and better system then by all means let us know ;)
Hi Helen,
Thank you for your lovely comment about my girls, especially Nala. She is a committed sun worshipper now that she has been released from her horrible shed >:( and always finds the best position to catch some rays!
The only reason I mentioned the threads was because I was asked to do one by one of the MT Staff, so was really pleased to see that all of the dogs are already listed - that's really kind of you and your members - thank you.
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Thank you Puppy Annie too for your helpful advice.
My girls all follow me everywhere too (the days of privacy in the toilet are long gone!) so hopefully little Nimble will also just tag along and follow their lead and get into our routine.
As we foster our house is pretty safe and all valuables and breakables are well out of reach so it's puppy friendly.
I've fostered a few puppies now (I fostered Fifi and her 4 brothers and sisters too) so will start with the every hour on the hour toilet training routine with masses of praise and over exaggerated actions and facial expressions when she goes.
I read somewhere that people put bells on their collars - is this worthwhile do you think?
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I read somewhere that people put bells on their collars - is this worthwhile do you think?
It's not something I've felt we needed, but then Jeff never goes very far so I guess it depends on the dog :dunno:
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Bite inhabition can be difficult with a deaf puppy. My friend has a deaf dally and she just had to teach that teeth are not acceptable rather than the prefered method of teaching control.
Loads of socialisation is a good idea as they have to learn to respond to a dog body lagauge without the noise feedback (growling, barking, yelping). But watch her around young and nervous dogs as she wont be able to respond to a yelp from another dog.
There were also issues with her knocking things from the table. Whereas another dog would get frightened by the noise a deaf dog doesnt get this negative feedback. >:(
Good luck
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beautiful girl, hope that she finds the perfect home. :luv:
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She's beautiful :luv: :luv: if only! :luv:. Somebody take her home please before we come and steal her :shades: xxx
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OMG! She is so gorgeous! I want her! I'd love another deaf cocker but I really don't have the money for another one right now! :'( But if I did I would be straight on the phone begging them to let me have her! :luv:
I put a bell on Isla's collar, She will sometimes run into the bushes out of sight so it's just so I can tell where she is! To be honest she doesn't really need it now but it was really useful when she was a pup as I was terrified she'd get lost and I wouldn't be able to find her!
We also found bite inhibition more difficult with her but not impossible, we play fight with her now using our hands and she mouths you and always very gently!
I'd have another deaf pup in a shot! I really would, it's so rewarding to train them! Isla came 1st in an agility show the other week and I've honestly never been so proud!
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Welcome! Fifi and Tilly are beautiful but I have to admit I'm just a bit in love with Nala :luv: :luv:
A lot of cockers that come up in rescue make their way here and are crossposted here by any of our members but if there is an easier way and better system then by all means let us know ;)
Hi Helen,
Thank you for your lovely comment about my girls, especially Nala. She is a committed sun worshipper now that she has been released from her horrible shed >:( and always finds the best position to catch some rays!
The only reason I mentioned the threads was because I was asked to do one by one of the MT Staff, so was really pleased to see that all of the dogs are already listed - that's really kind of you and your members - thank you.
Sorry as off topic but we have a member who has a rescue weim too and strangely enough she loves the sun too, I wonder if its a Weimy thing? ;) Oh and welcome to COL, please stick around as we really are a friendly lot ;)
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I WANT HER! :luv:
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OMG, she is totally gorgeous! Hope she finds her forever home soooon! :luv:
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Hi everyone,
Just a little update for you on the gorgeous Nimble who we have called Ava :luv: :luv:
She was so distressed on the journey home bless her, constantly circling and crying :'( But the minute that I lifted her out of her crate and cuddled her, she completely relaxed and we've had a lovely day with her.
She loves her cuddles and playing with toys and she and Fifi (my 6 month old cav) have had some lovely games of chase and tag. She hasn't cried once since we got home and only circles to sit or lie down.
She is a little wobbly and un-cordinated on her paws but this in no way holds her back from anything that she wants to do and she is perfectly happy.
I do also think that she can hear some things as she responds toa whistle, hand clapping or a squeaky toy.
We are all head over heels in love with her already, she is VERY, VERY special!! :luv: :luv: :D
Here are some more pics to tempt you:
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ph34r
I really must stop looking at this thread, I absolutely adore the name Ava :luv: she really is something special :luv:
can I foresee another failure eloisecherry :shades:
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We have just filled in the application form.......Bramble & Beri would love her to bits :luv: We have thought about a rescue before and feel a little girl would be ideal....and she is gorgeous :luv: :luv: :luv:
Keep your fingers crossed everyone :luv:
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Hope you are successful she looks lovely.
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Good Luck with your application. :D She looks totally gorgeous. :luv:
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Good luck, i'm sure your two gorgeous boys will love her to bits. :luv:
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All fingers and paws crossed here :luv: Good luck :blink:
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We have just filled in the application form.......Bramble & Beri would love her to bits :luv: We have thought about a rescue before and feel a little girl would be ideal....and she is gorgeous :luv: :luv: :luv:
Keep your fingers crossed everyone :luv:
Perfect !!!! :luv: :luv: :banana:
All fingers and paws crossed here ;) but I'm sure she will be with you soon you lucky people ;)
:luv: :-*
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All fingers and paws crossed here for you.
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We have just filled in the application form.......Bramble & Beri would love her to bits :luv: We have thought about a rescue before and feel a little girl would be ideal....and she is gorgeous :luv: :luv: :luv:
Keep your fingers crossed everyone :luv:
good luck - paws crossed here! xx
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Good luck, fingers crossed for good news :D
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We have just filled in the application form.......Bramble & Beri would love her to bits :luv: We have thought about a rescue before and feel a little girl would be ideal....and she is gorgeous :luv: :luv: :luv:
Keep your fingers crossed everyone :luv:
Fingers crossed here for you! She looks & sounds gorgeous! :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv:
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Really hope you get her, fingers and paws crossed here. Would love to see her blossom with your boys x :luv:
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Everything crossed for you here too. Good Luck in your application.
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Thats fantastic, fingers crossed here too :luv: :luv: :luv: xxx
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Everything crossed for you here too. Good Luck in your application.
Same here. ;)
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We have just filled in the application form.......Bramble & Beri would love her to bits :luv: We have thought about a rescue before and feel a little girl would be ideal....and she is gorgeous :luv: :luv: :luv:
Keep your fingers crossed everyone :luv:
So hope you get her - she is too beautiful for words.
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Everything crossed here.
Waiting with baited breath :D
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Fingers crossed for you!
If you want to read up on deaf dogs there's a great forum on D for dog website about deaf dogs and also the deaf dalmation rescue has a great page on hand signals you can use!
Also if you have any questions about raising a deaf pup then just PM me I'll be more than happy to help!
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It seems we thought about it for too long...there was an application before ours and they are being home checked........... :'( :'(
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:o Oh no, I'm so sorry for you :'(
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It seems we thought about it for too long...there was an application before ours and they are being home checked........... :'( :'(
Oh i am sorry :'( it must be very disappointing for you. :'(
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It seems we thought about it for too long...there was an application before ours and they are being home checked........... :'( :'(
:'( Oh what a shame. I hope she gets a fantastic home, even if it isn't yours.
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It seems we thought about it for too long...there was an application before ours and they are being home checked........... :'( :'(
:'( Oh what a shame. I hope she gets a fantastic home, even if it isn't yours.
So do we.....yes we are disappointed but a nice home for her ASAP is much more important :luv: You never know her new owners may join COL :luv:
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Carol - hope that you see this!
Been trying to ring you - pls give me a ring as per my message!
Adrienne
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Oooh, a development..... ph34r
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My hat goes off to all you fosterers out there. You're doing a great job.
It's easy to get depressed about the rescue/unwanted dog situation in this country at the moment but sometimes we need to realise also just how far we've come. In my experience, many years ago the breeder would have had the puppy put down as a matter of course.
I'm sorry Henshallowboys didn't get the pup, but the right dog is waiting for them somewhere in the future.
I know this is totally different to deaf puppies, but our last 3 dogs went stone deaf in old age. It made no difference as we automatically started doing hand signals without being aware of it, and they automatically responded.
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Carol - hope that you see this!
Been trying to ring you - pls give me a ring as per my message!
Adrienne
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Thanks for the phone call Adrienne and the chat......we are all :banana: :banana: again now......looks like we may still yet have a little sister for Bramble & Beri :luv:
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Carol - hope that you see this!
Been trying to ring you - pls give me a ring as per my message!
Adrienne
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Thanks for the phone call Adrienne and the chat......we are all :banana: :banana: again now......looks like we may still yet have a little sister for Bramble & Beri :luv:
Thats fantastic! Fingers crossed!!! :luv: :luv:
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Carol - hope that you see this!
Been trying to ring you - pls give me a ring as per my message!
Adrienne
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Thanks for the phone call Adrienne and the chat......we are all :banana: :banana: again now......looks like we may still yet have a little sister for Bramble & Beri :luv:
Oh my goodness :banana: :banana: :banana: :004: :004: :004: How exciting!!! i had a funny feeling that this would happen. :D :D :D
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I do hope so, she is so pretty. Would be ovely to see her with a COL member. Everything crossed for you.
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:D Oh fantastic, this is sounding good :banana:
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Can't wait to hear more! Good luck! Xxx
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Congratulations, Look forward to seeing her on one of our Northwest Meet ups. :luv:
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Am keeping everything crossed for you guys
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Hope it works out for you, can't wait for the update!
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All fingers & paws crossed here for good news.
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Everything still crossed here for you :D
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Everything still crossed here for you :D
Us too. :blink:
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Really hope your luck is in this time :blink:
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Well......we have just been home checked and hopefully everything was ok......the boys were on their best behaviour :luv: :luv:
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:lol2: how exciting
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Well......we have just been home checked and hopefully everything was ok......the boys were on their best behaviour :luv: :luv:
Fantastic - everything crossed here!!!
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Really hope everything works out and Bramble and Beri get a new little sister :luv: :luv:
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How exciting! :D :D
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I have been following this with bated breath. It sounds really promising. Everything is crossed, it will be so lovely to see her growing up on here. good luck Nikki and Bailey