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Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 14, 2003, 12:01:07 PM
I have now received my thinning scissors for Buttons. I have completely handstripped her back and head. I did have a go at the rest but she found it too uncomfortable, so i decided on the thinners. I had a go yesterday and did her feet, which look OK (ish) :- Then started on the tops of her ears, because since she had been groomed last time they have grown back really curly. I have thinned them down to the "lumpy bit" but they just look pretty much the same, just shorter, i.e. they are still curly ??? Have i not gone short enough ??? Buttons hasn't got a heavy coat at all, not like the cockers in any of the books I've got so it is very difficult to see exactly what I'm doing :-X
Basically I'm worried I'm making a right pigs ear ???                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: tracey on June 14, 2003, 02:58:11 PM
Hi Gilly, sounds like you haven`t taken quite enough off.
I have just looked at a recent picture of Buttons and she does look like she has quite a lot of hair on her ears. ;D You need to go about a third of the way down the ear. Make sure the flat blade is down and the serrated bit is on top.  Take a bit at a time working down the ear. Just be careful, as they are new scissors they will be very sharp.
Hope this helps.
Tracey :)                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 14, 2003, 08:43:47 PM
Thanks Tracey,

I had a go at stripping some hair off where her ears meet her head, amd she didn't seem to mind so will carry on with that again tomorrow and then try again on her ears, do you now roughly what length the hair should be at the top, or is it just a case of keep going until its flat ???

Gilly                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: tracey on June 14, 2003, 09:02:39 PM
Hi Gilly, yes just keep going till it`s flat. As I said do a little brush and do a bit more :) And remember if you make a mistake it will soon grow back ;D You can hand stip where the ears meet the head and blend the hand stripping and scissoring in as you go down the ear.
Good Luck, and well done for having a go :)
Tracey.                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 14, 2003, 09:52:24 PM
Hi Tracey, right, I'm on a mission tomorrow to give Buttons flat ears ;D
god help her :o                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: tracey on June 14, 2003, 09:57:47 PM
Go for it Gilly ;D if you get stuck give me a shout :)
Tracey.                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: *Jay* on June 14, 2003, 10:56:56 PM
Right Tracey, what do you know about grooming legs ;) ;D                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Mike on June 15, 2003, 12:44:48 AM
Good luck Gilly, I'm sure you'll do fine. Lookiing forward to seeing how you get on!!  ;D                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: tracey on June 15, 2003, 07:11:17 AM
Do you have a particular are of concern Gill?
Tracey                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 15, 2003, 09:10:43 AM
Mike, I'll take some pics when I've finished, if you don't see any you'll know i've made a right pigs ear ;) ;D

I haven't even tackled her legs yet :- I've done her feet, and thinned around her toes with the thinners at an angle, and they look OK. How far around the foot do I thin?? all the way around, as I seem to have concentrated more on the front part??? I need my hubby to help and hold her whilst I do her legs ::) but its surprising what a bit of birbery with cheese will do ;D
Off for a boring day of dancing rehearsals with my daughter so will continue with phase 2 of Buttons hairdo upon my return ;)

Gilly                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: *Jay* on June 15, 2003, 10:05:38 AM
I'll send you an IM Tracey to save hijacking Gillys thread ;D                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Shirley on June 15, 2003, 12:29:19 PM
Hope your not going to keep any leg tips to yourself Gill  ;D  Morgan's legs still aren't right.   :(                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 15, 2003, 02:32:20 PM
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I'll send you an IM Tracey to save hijacking Gillys thread  

Hijack away Gill, we could all do with some help ;)                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Eljay on June 15, 2003, 05:19:38 PM
Oh yes please!!!  I think I have got the ears ok but I am struggling with the legs too. I think I have got his front legs almost there but I'm having a lot of trouble with the back legs. How much am I supposed to take off near his hocks?  :- Any advide is gratefully received. :)                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: cbabe on June 17, 2003, 12:27:33 PM
Gilly,

Fern's coat is quite light and whispy too. Is this a choccy roan thing?? Her ears are curlier than my blue roans as well! i do have to take the tops of the ears quite short to get them to go flat - other wise she shakes her head and looks like she has been electrified - cos it sticks out! :o

Spit - slap - smooth!!!! :-X                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: libby on June 17, 2003, 11:41:59 PM
Before i had Griffy neutered i only had to trim his ears and feathering, then i started handstripping cos his fur went thick, but his fur has now gone wild and bushy so i am considering clipping him, is this a good idea?                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: *Jay* on June 18, 2003, 07:20:56 AM
Sometimes clipping is the only option - my oldest is a neutered golden and he needs to be clipped off as his coat became thick and wavy. In between grooming sessions, I use the coatking to try and keep it under control a bit more.                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Dessie on June 18, 2003, 10:54:47 AM
How much am I supposed to take off near his hocks?  :- Any advide is gratefully received. :)

For trimming back legs I brush all the fur down so it goes over the hocks place my hand on the leg and fingers so the hock is at the back and then trim off all the excess.  Not very good at explaining this type of thing, sorry  ??? I do the same with the back of the foot - holding the back foot in my hand from the joint down I place my fingers as a measure and trim off all the excess.

Hope this makes sense.

Dessie  ;)                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 18, 2003, 11:40:54 AM
Dessie you have completely baffled me, mind you that isn't hard ;) ;D                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Dessie on June 18, 2003, 12:04:49 PM
Sorry Gilly I did say I wasn't very good at explaining things ???  :'(                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 18, 2003, 12:51:17 PM
Dessie, its not your explanation, just me :-X ;D
I think its one of those things where you actually need to see someone in action, so to speak, then it would propably all fit into place, I can hear myself saying "OOOOOHHHH, I GET IT NOW ::) ;D"

Gilly ;)                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Eljay on June 19, 2003, 08:13:48 PM
Thanks for the help Dessie. :D  Any chance you could post a photo as I'm with Gilly on this one... will probably say  Oh ..got it now? I'm a slow learner :(                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 19, 2003, 08:52:58 PM
It's our age Lou :o ;)                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Dessie on June 19, 2003, 09:08:57 PM
Right girls have a look at this                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Dessie on June 19, 2003, 09:10:59 PM
I hope this is clearer for you both if you want it sent directly just email me.

A big thank you to JaneS  ;D  ;D as she dug this out for me for my to go in a Cocker Leaflet I'm producing for my Discover Dogs Event.                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Eljay on June 19, 2003, 09:54:13 PM
Yes don't like to admit the age thing is creeping in fast.. ???

Thanks very much to both Dessie and Jane. It's a big help.  ;D Guess what I 'll be doing this weekend???? ;D                    
Title: Help!!!! Ears!!!
Post by: Gilly on June 19, 2003, 11:13:17 PM
I've already got this thanks to Jane... ;D will have another go at the weekend :-X