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Cocker Specific Discussion => Oldies (Over 9s) => Topic started by: Jaysmumagain on January 02, 2021, 12:57:16 PM
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Oliver had an episode yesterday of what we are not clear, he has been clearing his throat on wakening this quickly goes then trotting off around the garden his estate. His movement was strange like he was retching, he stopped - I went out and he just stood got reacting to my command to come - his back leg was shacking, I ran for hubby and Ollie still stood then lay on the wet grass wheezing, hubby lifted him in doors, his wheezing was slight but I phoned the vet who saw us within the hour, Ollie was brighter but still trying to clear his throat now and again.
The vet said his heart and vitals were all good and his eyes not glazed - he may have had a small TIA, she suggested bloods on Monday and x ray as she felt a small swelling in his upper abdomen but stressed it was difficult to examine when she was on her own. His wheezing she felt was not chest infection and thought his back leg was due to possible arthritis - she prescribed bronchodilators and liquid paracetamol until she got a clearer picture.
Ollie is much better today, he is due for bloods and x ray on Monday.
Sorry for the long post but I am so very concerned, I had call to confirm today and asked about the sedation risks etc lady said they give full sedation in case they need to operate, I expressed my concerns and said that while I wanted x ray I may not want invasive surgery, I mentioned my usual vet and it was agreed she will look him over and then discuss with me before they go ahead.
I don't know what to say I am finding it difficult to type this....I just don't feel I want my little boy messed about with at 13 years old. Medication yes to aid his health in old age yes but chemo or surgery I don't know. Hubby and I had a scare with him almost 2 years back and we said then we would not have him go through stuff - it was a hernia in the end and easy to rectify.
I do not know what this is - I have a doggy who is no different than News Years Eve curled by my side, but I realize something strange happened yesterday. I am so concerned and need your support and whether I am handling this correctly
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That is such a scary thing, no wonder you are shook. Just my personal thoughts, I have no expertise. Full sedation would worry me, and unless it is critical I would prefer my own vet to deal with my dog. Their is a level of trust. The assumption of full sedation in case of surgery in an older dog would not be my choice. If he has had a TIA, then it's a time thing, and dogs can recover so well from these. My Mum's old dog (of indeterminate breed) had this and after being wobbly for a few days, she was soon back to herself. For me, unless there is a huge delay, I would wait, I get the feeling that anything major or invasive at this time would not be your choice anyway, and you will have time to think about this before choices may, or may not, have to be made. Hugs.
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oh dear Julie! First if all, lots :bigarmhug:
I had just started to write the reply but saw that ejp has already answered and agree with her entirely. As long as Ollie isn’t in any obvious distress at the moment, I wouldn‘t make any decision until your own vet has seen him. I know its hard but do try not to think too much about chemo and surgery at the moment, until you‘ve had a firmer diagnosis, you might be worrying unnecessarily.
I think it would be unwise for any of us to hazard any guess as to what the problem, any of the symptoms could indicate a different cause.
Lots more hugs to you both, will be thinking of you so do let us know as soon as you know any more!
Take care and chin up for Ollie!
:bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :luv:
Love Jayne ‚n Humph‘
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Julie I so know what you are going through :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: We went through similar with Rhum back in August
Agree with the others that as long as he is happy and content until Monday wait until you speak to your vet and they have accessed him :luv: The hardest thing is to try and not worry and think of the worst :luv:
My case back in August was very similar and we had Rhum checked over (lab) and I brought him back home with medication and the vet thought it was just old age etc with arthritis - never got to the bottom of his coughing / retching (sounded a bit like kennel cough, but vet ruled that out ) But he was a stick eater if you didn't watch him like a hawk in the garden >:D so we put it down to that and perhaps he had scratched his throat
Thinking of you and the family and loads of love n hugs to Oliver :luv: :bigarmhug:
As Oliver seems to be the same as he was on New Years eve just now try not to worry, Monday will be round soon and hopefully all will be sorted :luv:
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Hope he feels better soon 👍
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I hope he feels better soon and I hope it feels less overwhelming once you see your vet. It will hopefully be easier to see the way forward when you have more information on possible diagnosis and prognosis. They should take the time to explain options once they know more. It's always difficult to know how much or how invasive of a treatment is worth it at a certain age. But sometimes seemingly scary problems have solutions that are not scary. So I'd say not to worry until you know more, but I know that's impossible. I'm sure you will make the right decisions on how to handle this. You already want the best for Oliver, now you just need some information from your vet.
Regarding sedation, I know they sometimes have to sedate to get good imaging, and with safe choice of meds and good monitoring, the risks are very low. And at my vets, and probably most vets, they use sedation that can be reversed with another drug so the animals can be woken up and not be sedated longer than necessary. I find comfort in that :blink: Sedation is less risky than anaesthesia.
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Thank you everyone...my thoughts aren't running away with me as much.
Glad am seeing our vet - one of the best in my eyes. It is a private practice too.
My boy seems to be in good spirits - still clearing his throat - but usually first things - his appetite is good etc. Will catch up with any news over next couple days.
Thank you all
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Sorry to read about Oliver, it's frightening when you don't know what is happening, or why. Somehow missed your post, but hope the vet can shed some light on the situation today and help Oliver.
:bestwishes: and :bigarmhug: for you all.
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Sadly not good news for my sweetheart, the clearing throat noise growth. Inoperable
Started medication today - same as Jay had - I am broken. Will see how Ollie copes with them.
Will try and stay strong for my boy
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I sincerely hope that Oliver will respond to the drugs.
My old lady Marley 13 had become extremely ill and we felt we were losing her.
Bloods were inconclusive but a scan showed ‘possible’ tumour in the intestines.
We didn’t want her to undergo invasive surgery at 13 as when she had the scan she was extremely ill afterwards and it took her a whole 4 days to recover.
We opted for palliative care and fortunately for us she has responded very well (so much so that we are now gradually reducing the steroid dose).
We are aware that the steroids are not a cure but they have really helped her and I sincerely hope whatever drugs Oliver is on, he will respond as well as Marley has.
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I am sorry, had hoped for better news for you and Ollie. :bigarmhug:
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So sorry to hear about Oliver. It is heartbreaking when you get such news. Hopefully he will respond to the medication.
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Very sorry to hear the bad news! Hope the medicines can help him!
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Julie, so sorry its not better news for Ollie but hope the medication will help him.
Sending :bigarmhug:, stay positive!
:luv: Jayne xx
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Ooo Julie so sorry to hear this, hoping the meds help
:luv: :luv: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
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So sorry to hear this!!! Sending you hugs...hope he gets on the mend.x
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Sorry to read your bad news about Oliver sending :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: hoping the meds help & he is soon feeling better :luv:
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So sorry to read about Oliver and sad it’s not better news :bigarmhug: I hope he responds to the medication xx
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So sorry to hear this :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug: :bigarmhug:
Lesley and Dylan
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Just a quick update on my darling boy. He is doing well, he tolerates the medication (prednisone) well although he is forever hungry and drinking and peeing more, in the main down to the medication. His wheeze is less and his cough too - so clearly it has improved things for now and we pray for many happy days to come with the love and madness he brings and still has his crazy cocker times :luv: he never misses a trick and is always finding mischief. Yesterday he decided he was going to investigate a stick on the sand just as the tide rolled in he just stood there and shook himself off and plodded along having a paddle, we were in stitches at his antics.
We are taking everyday as it comes and just enjoying all the joy he brings.
Hope all your babies are well.
Hugs from me and Ol
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That‘s brilliant news!!!!!!! So glad Oliver‘s picked up again and responding to the meds and the COL magic! Wishing you many many more fun days on the beach together!
Millions of :bigarmhug: from me and bum wiggles from Humph!
:luv: Jayne x
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That's lovely :luv: so pleased to hear that. Thanks for the update, it has made my day.
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:luv: :luv: So pleased to hear Oliver is improving. The joy our beloved cockers bring into our lives is priceless.
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:dance04: :dance04: :cool4:
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Great news and thanks for the update, so pleased he is doing well :luv: :bigarmhug:
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:luv: Good to hear things have improved :luv: I had a wee giggle thinking of him sniffing that stick and the tide coming in :luv:
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That’s wonderful news. Every day is precious!