CockersOnline Forum

Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Colin on October 16, 2003, 09:10:07 AM

Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Colin on October 16, 2003, 09:10:07 AM
Last night at training we were told that there is a bit of Kennel Cough going round the area and asked not to  take our dogs to classes if they catch it.

Guess what ? Within an hour of me getting Misty home she started coughing away, at first I thought she was retching and going to be sick..... but apart from a bit of water there was nothing. She carried on coughing all through the night, keeping me awake. I ended up reading the Doglopaedia about it at 4 am, which as ever was a mistake as it got me really worried. ::) She seems fine apart from this, not off her food but just a bit confused as to what's happening. :-

Anyway, my reputation as a needless worrier is about to be put to the test as we have a vet appointment booked for later this morning (first one in almost a week ;D ). Hopefully you will all be proved right ......  Misty will be fine and I am proved once and for all to be the number one col worry wart ! ::)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2003, 09:22:20 AM
I hope she'll be fine too Colin. Daisy had a mild bout of it as a pup - at a similar age I think as Misty is now.                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Jane S on October 16, 2003, 09:25:42 AM
Poor Misty :( It does sound like Kennel Cough - affected dogs frequently look like they're retching & trying to bring up something stuck in their thoat. Most cases need no veterinary treatment (unless secondary infection sets in) but you could try giving her a small teaspoon of Benylin (children's one) every so often. Garlic is also good for fighting the virus (we have had good results with Dorwest's Garlic & Fenugreek tablets in the past) You should check with the vet too that it's ok to bring Misty into the surgery - if she has kennel cough, she could pass it to every other dog sitting in the waiting room.                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Shirley on October 16, 2003, 09:46:28 AM
Poor Misty  :-[   I'm sure she'll be fine, though - that book has a lot to answer for, I've had numerous trips to the vet on the strength of something I've read in there  ;D :D  only to be told that I'm an over-anxious owner.
I've never seen a dog with kennel cough but from what Jane's said it sounds as though you've caught it early and it won't be too serious. Hope all goes well at the vets.   :)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Anita on October 16, 2003, 10:04:21 AM
Poor Misty - I hope she's ok.

Phoebe had her vax against kennel cough before going on her hols - why does it only last six months????                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: xander_ho on October 16, 2003, 11:22:40 AM
Poor Misty :-, Hope there is nothing wrong with her, Colin please let us know if she is alright!!



Alexander                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Colin on October 16, 2003, 11:59:52 AM
Well for once my diagnosis was correct and Misty does have Kennel Cough. :( She seems her normal self though apart from sounding like she's been smoking 40 Bensons a day for the past 20 years. We got some antibiotics called Ronaxon and a bill for £56. ::) Would have been £80 if I'd taken the cough suppressants too. Not sure I want to pump her full of drugs really, I wish I'd read your reply Jane before setting off.

 It seems to be an epidemic round here, Misty was the second dog in there today with it and another person phoned up about similar symptoms whilst we were waiting to pay. Vet reckoned the incubation period was about 5/7 days so it wasn't the mere mention of it by the trainer that brought it on.

The vet also said she'd be ok to return to training next week, 5 days away from other dogs would suffice.....I phoned the trainer and he agreed. (No ringcraft next monday though, so we get a weeks break from humiliating ourselves there 8) ;D ) The Doglopaedia however suggests 6 weeks away from dog gatherings ! :o This was one of the things that worried me when reading about it in the middle of the night, also the information that in puppies the disease may be complicated by secondary pneumonia which can cause death ! :o :o                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Mike on October 16, 2003, 12:12:27 PM
I dont think the vet actually gave Daisy any treatment for kennel cough when she had it - at the time, she also had very mucousy poo with spots of blood in it, so he spent the first week trying her out on Panacur worming powder, and the second waiting for test results on her stools - all to eliminate lung worm as the source of the cough. At the end of that week, her cough had started to subside naturally. It was quite distressing to hear though, it really does sound horrible. Fortunately, Jazz didnt get the infection from Daisy, so hopefully Jimmy will be okay too  :)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on October 16, 2003, 12:32:07 PM
ahhh!!! poor  misty, i hope she,s soon feeling a lot better Colin.  :)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Gilly on October 16, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
Awwwww hope she gets better soon Colin  ;)
So you had every right to be worried last night so maybe being a worry wart isn't such a bad thing  ;) ;D
I must admit i gave Butty Calpol when she hurt a leg as a baby (on the vets advice  ;)), i am one of those people who would rather try something 1st other than a trip to the vets, who said us Scots are tight  ;) ;D :-X                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Pammy on October 16, 2003, 02:30:40 PM
aaaw - poor you. What with Misty coughing and Jimmy trembling - they are testing your worrying levels to the full ;D I'm sure they'll both be up to no good in no time. :-* to you all                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: *Jay* on October 16, 2003, 02:38:42 PM
Sorry to hear about poor Misty Colin. If its any consolation, its rife up here again at the minute so my three are being watched like hawks ;) We have had about 5 dogs in this week already and met a couple of people from training whose dogs had it too :- I'm sure Misty will be right as rain in no time ;)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Colin on October 16, 2003, 03:16:15 PM
Misty is as unphased by it all as ever, unlike me and Jimmy she isn't  a malingerer.......... thanks for all your kind words. :)

aaaw - poor you. What with Misty coughing and Jimmy trembling - they are testing your worrying levels to the full ;D I'm sure they'll both be up to no good in no time. :-* to you all

Well now I have something real to bother about I've no time for Jimmy and his imaginary ailments. ;D ;)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Loraine on October 16, 2003, 03:45:57 PM
Just seen this - you poor thing must so worrying.  Hope she gets rid of it very soon.  Big hug and kiss to Misty (and Jimmy too)  :-*  :-*

Loraine.                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Jane S on October 16, 2003, 03:56:47 PM
Misty will be back to normal in no time Colin ;) Must admit I'm surprised she's been given antibiotics - kennel cough is caused by a virus so antibiotics won't touch it (its like a doctor given you antibiotics for the common cold ;D) Then they wonder why antibiotics are not as effective as they used to be ;) Our dogs have had it a few times over the years & have always got over it with just the aid of good old Benylin plus garlic tablets :) The Kennel Club have a rule that you're not supposed to take a dog to a show within 3 weeks of being in contact with an infectious/contagious disease - not sure how many abide by that rule though ;)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Gilly on October 16, 2003, 05:12:00 PM
Quote
Well now I have something real to bother about I've no time for Jimmy and his imaginary ailments.  

maybe you can just pretend Jimmy has it to  ;) ;D                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: LindaW on October 16, 2003, 07:38:13 PM
Sorry to hear about poor Misty Colin but I am sure she will be better in no time!  'tis a worry though. ::)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: tracey on October 16, 2003, 07:48:21 PM
Hi Colin, Hope Misty recovers quickly.
You could give her a teaspoon of honey a couple of times a day, supposed to be soothing. Try the set honey as the runny honey can be a bit of a nightmare :o Cocker ears and honey don`t mix ;D
Tracey :)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: KellyP on October 16, 2003, 08:14:42 PM
poor little Misty - Jimmy will probably tremble even more now Colin to try and get more attention off you!  ;D ;) ;D
Seriously though I hope she gets better soon  :-*                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2003, 08:24:28 PM
Awww poor Misty :(  Hope she is feeling better soon, Indie sends her a big doggie kiss and hug, and to Jimmy too just in case he feels left out :D  I'm sure Misty will be back to normal soon :)  and OIY put that bl**** book away!!!! ;)

From another worry wart, take my advise sometimes too much information is a bad thing ;), hmmmm I remember reading all those darn pregnancy books, when I was already 6 months gone ::) and there is no turning back, wishing I would have read them before I decided to have a baby.  But if I had have done, I would be childless now, and that just doesnt bear thinking about :-  So basically, me is saying in a round the houses way, information books often tell you worse case scenarios, so put it away in that draw that you can't open properly cos its full of stuff and leave it there for a while ;) ;D

Emma and Indie                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Colin on October 17, 2003, 10:10:54 AM
Just to say that the worst of Misty's coughing stopped late yesterday afternoon, she just does it now when excited or after running about being daft with Jimmy.  ::)To be honest I feel a bit of a fraud taking all this sympathy on Misty's bahalf as you'd never guess she was ill at all, she's a feisty little lady. ;D But thanks. :) At least I'll know better next time not to get fleeced at the vets yet again.......honey and garlic sound so much healthier than something called Ronaxan.

By the way, the vet claimed that kennel cough can be sent airborne upto 50m by a 25 kg dog. :o Not sure how exactly they figure such things out, but it suggests a dog doesn't really need close contact to catch the illness.                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Gilly on October 17, 2003, 10:19:45 AM
Quote
By the way, the vet claimed that kennel cough can be sent airborne upto 50m by a 25 kg dog.  Not sure how exactly they figure such things out, but it suggests a dog doesn't really need close contact to catch the illness.

I can just see Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo  ;) ;D

Glad she's feeling better anyway, i reckon you should chuck your doglapedia Colin, whats on the next page or dare I ask  ;D                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Colin on October 17, 2003, 10:29:18 AM
i reckon you should chuck your doglapedia Colin, whats on the next page or dare I ask  ;D

Page 140 Kennel Cough
Page 141........Rabies ! :o  (Have checked both dogs for the symptoms, AOK so far, will keep you posted ;) )

I'm not going to chuck the Doglopaedia just yet, it is a good book.... just lethal in the wrong hands. ::) Maybe I should donate my well-thumbed copy to your book club, pass the curse onto someone else. ;D                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Gilly on October 17, 2003, 10:36:25 AM
Quote
Maybe I should donate my well-thumbed copy to your book club, pass the curse onto someone else.  

hang on let me think.......NO                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Mary on October 17, 2003, 01:11:07 PM
I'm not going to chuck the Doglopaedia just yet, it is a good book.... just lethal in the wrong hands. ::) Maybe I should donate my well-thumbed copy to your book club, pass the curse onto someone else. ;D

Me please....I'll have it ;D  Love medical books...even doggie ones ;)

Actually found medical books to be extremely beneficial...infact my nephew was ill for quite a few months and doctors dismissed his sickness as stress related >:(  My medical book unearthed a possible blockage near his kidney and to cut a long story short he was operated on and now has a partially damaged kidney. :(  Undiagnosed for much longer and he would have lost it >:(  It has come in soooooo useful since then too ;)

Glad Mistys almost better now anyway Colin..(bread didn't work then ;) ;D).                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Anonymous on October 19, 2003, 02:55:44 AM
:oOMG Mary, how useful did that book turn out to be for your family :)  Glad you had it!!

Colin,  Maybe you should start the book from Z -  A instead ;)  Glad Misty seems ok ;D

Emma and Indie                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Sophie on October 19, 2003, 08:00:35 AM
Colin

Hope poor misty is on the mend.  I agree with Jane Antibiotics seems rather a waste of time but I guess the Vet knows best!!

steve                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Colin on October 19, 2003, 11:42:47 AM
Just when I thought he was safe, Jimmy started with the kennel cough last night, making the weirdest grunty noises.  :(

I've just been to stock up with garlic, fenogreek and honey (forgot  the Benalyn). I was recommended a ridiculously expensive jar of Manuka Honey by a very attractive sale assistant, so attractive in fact that I lapped up everything she said and bought it. ::) Even the hippies in the health food shops are ripping me off now ! ;D

Hopefully his powers of recovery will be as quick as Misty's. :)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on October 19, 2003, 11:56:14 AM
aww poor Jimmy,  :( i hope that he feels better soon. Nell sends that handsome fella a big kiss. :-* What is manuka honey?? is it posh stuff??  ;)   iv,e never heard of it.  :D                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: KellyP on October 19, 2003, 01:38:48 PM
maybe you should take Jimmy on down to the health shop Colin - a cuddle and a  :-* from a pretty lady might be just what he needs to make him feel better  ;)  ;) Or you could go back again and ask her what she could recommend for mental stress and worry ... ...  ;)  ;)  ;D  ;D

 :-*  :-* from Millie, but she says don't worry Jimmy, I haven't got my bag rags on anymore  ;)                    
Title: Kennel Cough ?
Post by: *Jay* on October 19, 2003, 10:54:32 PM
Hope that v. expensive honey makes Jimmy feel better soon :-* Up here, it would appear kennel cough is soooooo last week - haemorrhagic gastroenteritis is the disease to have just now :- I just bumped into our on-call vet who was on her way in to see the 7th :o case of it this weekend......one of which died :'(