KC Mate Select

[JaspersMum]

Good tool - 2 of mine come up with a co-efficient of 0% and the highest at 6.2% - still well below the breed average.  Would definately use the potential stud matches in the future!

[Loes]

Nice: But what of the imported cockers or children of imported cockers? Sometimes they calculate the COI on only three generations, this is not very accurate.

[LynneB]

The percentage is a strange thing, although I know it's not good to be high but then a randomly bred dog can have a very low one too.
Good for the health test results thou!

I don't think it's strange I think it's really interesting - have been checking the inbreeding co-efficients of some very popular sires and some are really high....as suspected.   

If I had the choice I would avoid a dog with a very high co-efficient - although health testing covers a lot of genetic issues I know of one working cocker line that may have possible heart problems so any in-breeding would amplify that issue 

Just because a dog may not have the most elite of names in their pedigree doesn't mean that's it's not a healthy specimen.  To be honest I'd prefer a dog not to be the product of line or in-breeding 

Just tried my 2 and the resulting puppies would be 1.7%

[bella15]

Have had a go on scoring my own doglets!
Our working cocker Connie scored 0.0,her son Buster is 8.1 
Bella (show type) scored 0.6,her daughters scored the following:
Tess 0.7,Holly 1.9 & Cody 1.6

[Pudding]

Well Bob is 4.8 is that good or bad

[Jane S]

Nice: But what of the imported cockers or children of imported cockers? Sometimes they calculate the COI on only three generations, this is not very accurate.

Of course it has it's limitations at the moment re imported dogs but that doesn't mean it's not a useful tool, especially for the many breeders without any imported dogs in their lines.

I'm sure there are improvements to be made - the system is new after all but it's something a lot of other countries don't have, so for once a thumbs up to the KC

[Jane S]

Just tried my 2 and the resulting puppies would be 1.7%

Ah but you've got to take into account that the system can't calculate accurate COIs for imported dogs (usually the KC only has a 3 generation pedigree to go on for these and you need many more generations to get a true figure). We have the same problem with our own imported girl

[LynneB]

Just tried my 2 and the resulting puppies would be 1.7%

Ah but you've got to take into account that the system can't calculate accurate COIs for imported dogs (usually the KC only has a 3 generation pedigree to go on for these and you need many more generations to get a true figure). We have the same problem with our own imported girl

My boy has a 5 generation pedigree

[Jane S]

My boy has a 5 generation pedigree

We have a 5 gen pedigree for our girl too but her official import pedigree from the AKC only had 3 gens, as seems to be common for import pedigrees from other KCs. It's what's entered on the KC database rather than what we have at home from the breeder etc

[Helen]

It is a good tool but it's only one tool out of a large tool-box for you to use if you intend breeding 

Some say that it's not particularly good and you should go back many more generations for an accurate view of COI's (ie 30 gens)

[Jane S]

Some say that it's not particularly good and you should go back many more generations for an accurate view of COI's (ie 30 gens)

The KC didn't start computerising their records until the early 1980's so that's why it's not been possible to go back further than the existing database when calculating the COI's. It's not a perfect system but it's better than anything we've had access to before which can only be a good thing

[Loes]

I think it is a good thing to be aware of the COI, it would be beter if the KC would add some kind of accuracy to the COI.

But to be honest, I am just jealous that we don't have such an advanced breeding-program in the Netherlands. 

[Emma xx]

Alfie and Meg's ( ) combined coefficient is 5.7%. Ahhh bless them

[Danni and Freya]

Freya is 16.1% 

[Sharon]

My Ginny works out at 2.8% on the KC Website, but my own database where I can go back 10 generations it's only 0.56% so I'm a bit confused by it all