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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Louies Mum on April 20, 2003, 11:34:36 PM

Title: Ticks?
Post by: Louies Mum on April 20, 2003, 11:34:36 PM
I've just found a tick on my Louies head!!!  It's blacky/blue in colour and the site where it has latched on looks really bloody.  I feel really sorry for my poor little baby.  He doesn't even know why I am making such a fuss.  I normally give frontline every 2 months ( for fleas) but have just given it early( it was last given to him on the 4th March)

It says that it will kill it within 48 hours but I was wondering if I needed to make an appointment at the vets just in case?  I've never seen one before.  I don't want to risk taking it out myself incase I leave in the mouth part and cause more problems.

Help.  Thanks                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: *Jay* on April 20, 2003, 11:42:08 PM
Get yourself a plastic tick remover - that will whip the little blighter out without leaving the head in ;D I tried smothering one in vaseline once as recommended by someone but it refused to die ::)                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Louies Mum on April 21, 2003, 12:05:29 AM
The plastic tick remover sounds just what I am looking for - Where can I get one from?

Thanks                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: *Jay* on April 21, 2003, 08:13:45 AM
You should be able to get one from a pet shop or your vets. The ones we use are called O'Tom Tick  Removers-they are dead easy to use, better than the fiddly metal tweezer like ones :)                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Anonymous on April 21, 2003, 04:49:22 PM
making note for myself to buy one of these just in case I see a tick in the future...  ;)                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Dessie on April 22, 2003, 12:49:32 PM
Another good way of getting rid of these horrible ticks is if you have the frontline in a spray put some on cotton wool and place the soaked cotton wool over the tick, should fall off very quickly.  I've also heard that using nail varnish remover is good, same principle as the frontline spray, putting it on cotton wool etc.

HTH

Dessie :D :D :D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Shirley on April 27, 2003, 02:00:01 PM
Help, it's Sunday in the back of beyond (no shops open) and I've just found a tick on Morgan  :o - it's quite big!
Should I try to get it off now or leave it until I get a tick remover tomorrow? - trust this to happen on a Sunday  
:-X  :-X

Has anyone tried the nail polish remover as suggested by Dessie?

I think it's irritating him 'cos he's not keen on letting us touch it - he's wriggling away if I go near it.     :-  ???  :-X

Any suggestions?                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: *Jay* on April 27, 2003, 02:39:56 PM
If its annoying him, I would try the nail polish remover. Not gonna do any harm so worth a go :)                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Shirley on April 27, 2003, 08:51:51 PM
Thanks Gill

I tried the nail polish remover earlier on.  Soaked it for a few minutes and then left it.  The little blighter is still stuck fast, though.  I suppose we're stuck with the 'joy rider' till tomorrow now.   :-  At least I know what they look like now - ugly little suckers!!!!                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Jo W on April 28, 2003, 11:11:48 AM
I just pull them off with tweezers - one quick swipe - I think if you fiddle with them, they hang on tight and that's when the mouth parts get left behind.  Then I put some tea tree antiseptic cream on the site  ::)

I know that leaving ticks on can cause dogs to become sick but do left behind mouth parts actually cause a problem?  I've never heard of anything or experienced anything actually happening?                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Mike on April 28, 2003, 11:26:20 AM
One of the diseases they can cause is Limes disease  :o

If you do use normal tweasers, it's recommended you give a twist as you pull out - helps to "unscrew" the tick and minimises leaving the head (and potential disease) behind. Frontline directly onto the tick is probably the best method, as it falls out naturally (when it's dead) so there isnt any risk of the head staying behind.                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Mary on April 28, 2003, 12:52:39 PM
OK...maybe being a bit thick here but as having had no experience of ticks, just a few of questions:

Can they appear anywhere on the body or are they fussy and like particular areas ???

Where are they picked up from?

What would happen if they go unnoticed (or do they really irritate the dog so we get the warning signs) :-                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Jo W on April 28, 2003, 01:07:56 PM
They're picked up in areas where sheep and deer graze, generally in spring through to autumn.   In my experience, they tend (but not always) to go for short-haired areas such as the head but I've found them on Amber's side before now.  I would check a dog over thoroughly after walking in tick-like places.  Left unnoticed, they can be fatal.  Warning signs are things like fever, lameness, loss of appetite, lethargy, depression, cough.  I think this occurs in extreme cases, I've only ever known of one dog getting sick and he was a big, long-haired GSD, so the ticks weren't easy to spot!

You can find out more at this site:  http://uk.merial.com/pet_owners/dogs/dog_flea.html (http://uk.merial.com/pet_owners/dogs/dog_flea.html) but it is an advert for Frontline!                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Mary on April 28, 2003, 04:09:04 PM
Thanks Jo....really interesting.  I shall make sure we check her over when we've done a country walk in future. ;)
Would they be easy to feel ???                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Anonymous on April 30, 2003, 08:13:56 AM
have been checking over Jessie for these after any rambly type walks as I just didn't know where she could pick them up, and I know of people who's dogs had them and they rarely left their gardens.  

think I might freak when I do actually find one though, but I have a large bottle of frontline here so they better beware *Swining frontline bottle like gun into imaginary holster* v ;)  ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Mike on April 30, 2003, 09:16:44 AM
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Would they be easy to feel

initially no, but when the little beastie starts drinking, it gets big and fat - and all the ones I've seen have been GREEN (though I think you can get red ones too) - like small hard pea. If you get the magnifying glass out, you can see its little legs flailing as it drinks - 'orrible things  ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: *Jay* on April 30, 2003, 09:42:00 AM
Mental note to self - do not check COL while eating breakfast :P ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: bluegirl on April 30, 2003, 11:48:51 PM
We've had the red ticks on our cocker. I didn't know about them at first and initially thought she had a wart. Fortunately someone told us you can get them off if you dab them in T.C.P. use tweezers and pull and to check you have got everything out squirt a small amount of washing up liquid in a dish and put the tick in it. This helps immobilise it whilst you check it thoughly (then sqaush till dead so it can't find another victim!) If they have engorged themselves with blood they will drop off only to jump on again at a later date so watch out for little coffee bean shaped objects on the floor and squash them too otherwise as  the terminator said "I'll be back !"                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Hel on May 01, 2003, 08:41:41 PM
I've just got rid of a tick on Fletch's head - it was the first time I'd seen one.  I sprayed it with flea spray - within a couple of hours it was dead and had fallen out.  I then put some antiseptic (detoll) on the spot just to make sure.                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Shirley on May 01, 2003, 09:05:51 PM
Been busy with report cards  :-X all week so haven't had time to catch up on all the threads. Just thought I'd let you know that Dessie's nail varnish remover tip worked quite well - took a while though.  It killed the tick but the little sucker didn't fall off - I still had to get the 'tick picker outer'.  I now also have a few on the spot frontline treatments in the cupboard just incase we get another 'infestation'. :P                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: cbabe on May 02, 2003, 09:32:17 AM
Ok quick tick lesson for those of you who were not bought up on a farm and have not had the constant company of the things!

Ticks startoff as small and white sort of the same shape as a piece of sweetcorn. They wait in long grass untill a suitable meal provider walks by. They then attach them selves to their host by burying their heads under the skin. :-X

They then start to drink and appear to change colour to red. This is because they are transparent and you can see the blood they have drunk through their skin!

When they have gorged them selves they simply drop off and the cycle starts again!

A farmers way to get them off is to burn their head with a hot (not lit) match. Another way is to coat their head with vaceline so they suffocate and full off. What ever you do make sure that the head does come out (it is a black dot with horns) otherwise this can get infected.

Itching yet??? ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Anita on May 02, 2003, 09:46:26 AM
Yeeeeuuuugh :)                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2003, 01:34:40 PM
oh my and there was me just thinking about goin to get some food, think I'll wait a while now  :-X  ::)  ;)                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: cbabe on May 02, 2003, 02:15:03 PM
shall i make your skin cruel more - i've been biten by two - they are not supposed to bite humans.

My dad decided on the farmers technique and attacked me with a match!!!!!!!!! :o Yeah thanks dad!                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2003, 02:34:01 PM
lololol @ your Dad  mind you dunno why I am laughing mine would too given the chance...  ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Logan on May 02, 2003, 03:28:32 PM
I've always used nail varnish (the coloured stuff not the remover) on ticks, they always fall out within a couple of hours - then you can see them when they fall out, you don't want to squish one into your carpet, they make one hell of a mess.  :P :P

Reminds me of when I was in china, the guy next door stood on a cockroach on his way home, didn't think much of it until hundreds of baby cockroaches started hatching from his carpet - he's stood on a pregnant mum bug - euch.  :P

That was just for all of you breakfast readers  ;)

But the nailvarnish thing really works.                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Mike on May 02, 2003, 03:43:07 PM
Mmmm, I could just go a bag of maltesers  ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Anonymous on May 02, 2003, 04:00:31 PM
Mmmm, I could just go a bag of maltesers  ;D

yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D                    
Title: Ticks?
Post by: Pammy on May 04, 2003, 08:52:02 AM

Reminds me of when I was in china, the guy next door stood on a cockroach on his way home, didn't think much of it until hundreds of baby cockroaches started hatching from his carpet - he's stood on a pregnant mum bug - euch.  :P

That was just for all of you breakfast readers  ;)


eeeeeeeuuuuuucccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh that has to be one of the grossest things EVER :-X