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Cocker Specific Discussion => Health => Topic started by: Doogers on October 05, 2011, 12:17:19 PM

Title: What would you have done…
Post by: Doogers on October 05, 2011, 12:17:19 PM
Took Indie to the vets on Saturday as she started limping late Friday evening. Checked her paw which looked normal. However by the morning the paw was very bloody & sore, probably due to Indie picking at it during the night.

The vet said straight away that he thought something may be in there. He gave m 2 choices.

1) He could do a small op to open paw and remove anything.

2) Put her on antibiotics hoping paw heals and anything works its way out naturally. (If this didn't work he would have to perform the small op anyway)

I chose option 1 as I got the feeling the was saying option 2 wouldn't work and be a waste of time.

However he didn't find anything during op so I've put Indie through it for nothing!

Interested to know what my fellow COLers would have done????
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: seaangler on October 05, 2011, 12:25:19 PM
Proberley... Indie during the night got what was ever in there out....

But is he fit and well now....

Yes No 1....
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: karen488 on October 05, 2011, 12:28:49 PM
I would have done the wrong thing whatever. If I'd opted for the antibiotics she would have needed the op. At least you didn't feel pressured into the op by the vet. Glad she's on the mend. :)
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: dizzytrish on October 05, 2011, 12:30:12 PM
Hi Doogers

stop beating your self up about it, its over, and hopefully the paw is going down again now?.
if you hadn't of said yes, and Indie needed it later, you would be just as bad, we can only make decisions on the info we have at that time, and as the old saying goes ' hindsight is a wonderfull thing'!!

just give lots of cuddles to make you feel better!!  :bigarmhug:  and keep an eye on the paw!

Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Sarah.H on October 05, 2011, 12:41:07 PM
Hi Doogers

stop beating your self up about it, its over, and hopefully the paw is going down again now?.
if you hadn't of said yes, and Indie needed it later, you would be just as bad, we can only make decisions on the info we have at that time, and as the old saying goes ' hindsight is a wonderfull thing'!!

just give lots of cuddles to make you feel better!!  :bigarmhug:  and keep an eye on the paw!



Very true!

I had a vet convince me to have a biopsy on a small lump then an anesthetic to remove when in hindsight I feel I should have left it longer (was probably a bit of bramble that would have worked it's way out).

Hope her paw heals quickly  :-* :-*
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: redlottie on October 05, 2011, 12:44:13 PM
Hi Doogers

We had a similar thing the other week.  No visible injury but Albie was limping vet said we could try antibiotics or op and we went for 2 weeks of antibiotics.  It didnt improve and he ended up having is pad opened under anaesthetic, to find no foreign body but a nasty infection that needed flushing out.

I guess what I am saying if I had had the time over again I would have definately did what you did so I guess you just never know whether you are making the right decision.

Also, bear in mind that Indy doesnt know that the vet didnt find anything  ;)
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Doogers on October 05, 2011, 01:15:19 PM
Thanks all, I feel better!! :D

Took her back yesterday to get her bandage/dressing removed. Unfortunately the wound hadn't really healed enough and her paw started bleeding quite heavily. Nurse put another bandage on and we have to take her back tomorrow now to assess.

Any idea why they would not have stitched the paw??
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: c19unn on October 05, 2011, 01:24:50 PM
I would have definately have said option 1 to try and find the route of the issue as soon as possible for the dog so i think you done the right thing - if you had chose option 2 then waited and had the op you would have felt you should have got the op straight away and now you can at least say that you know its defo not something in the paw
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Emilyoliver on October 05, 2011, 07:09:12 PM

Any idea why they would not have stitched the paw??

If the wound is infected it wouldn't necessarily be a good thing to stitch it as it wouldn't drain.

Hope she's better soon.

PS.  I'd have chosen option 1 too.  Ollie had a paw that was worrying him (and me) so I took him to my vet who suggested he may have a broken toe (!) or an infection of the bone.  Put him on anti-b's for a week.  No better after the week, and had to have op anyway, and found grass seed which I had suspected all along.
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: padandmurph on October 05, 2011, 07:28:18 PM
Hi when paddy had his ops for the grass seed in his neck, they left the wound unstitched. I asked why and they said it was to give whatever was in there an easy route out. It didnt work for us and the poor thing had to have another op anyway but i think it was just because the flesh around the seed was so infected  :'( Hope indie heals soon x
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: sands on October 05, 2011, 07:37:16 PM
I would have made the same choice as you  ;)

I would have been of the opinion that the antibiotics may not work and maybe the op would be necessary anyway! 

Don't stress over it - the name thing is Indie is fine  ;)
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: ejp on October 05, 2011, 08:06:20 PM
Exactly what you did....  There is no need to give yourself a hard time, you made your choice for the right reason.   :bigarmhug:
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: spanielcrazy on October 05, 2011, 08:12:30 PM
I have an excellent vet, so when I have these kinds of choices I ask her "What would you do if it were your dog?"  :shades: It helps me a lot
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: bluegirl on October 05, 2011, 08:55:18 PM
Whatever the decision you made it was because you wanted the best for your dog so I wouldn't beat yourself up either. The recovery will be quick and at least it appears nothing was in the paw so thats all you could do.

I had my girl spayed because she seemed to be having too many seasons and we thought she may have a cyst on her ovaries or worse. In actual fact she had neither, had a terrible recovery from a traumatic procedure and I like you beat myself up about it, but I did it because I cared for her and I thought it was the best option. Now fully recovered she's fine, wasn't something she needed to have done but she's fine, same as your dog will be. ;)
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: redlottie on October 05, 2011, 09:14:21 PM
When albie had his the vet said they dont stitch the pad and albies healed lovely. The dressing was on for about 10 days though
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: ebony girl on October 05, 2011, 09:51:19 PM
i would have chosen the op........it seemed like the kinder option at the time, i would not have wanted to prolong any problems and at least i would know that there was nothing in there after the op.

if only we could explain our decisions to our beloved dogs, life would be so much easier and without guilt.

stop tormenting yourself, we have to make these decisions as responsible dog owners and your intentions were all good......well done!!!!!
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: LurcherGirl on October 05, 2011, 11:04:17 PM
I was in exactely the same situation as you with Jesse about two weeks ago. Jesse was also limping and there was an entrance whole in Jesse's paw. I took him to my vet's expecting them to remove a grass seed. However, after examining it carefully, my vet said that in 90% of these cases, they don't actually find anything, so he recommended to put him on antibiotics and see over the following few days how it goes.

He was right, the antibiotics did the trick (and perhaps the homepathic remedy that helps expell foreign bodies) and it healed within a few days and he hasn't had a problem since. I am now glad that my vet didn't put him through surgery when it wasn't necessary.
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Helen on October 06, 2011, 08:26:32 AM
I'm with LurcherGirl on this one - but it's an entirely personal choice and neither decision is wrong nor does it make you a bad owner.

Perhaps the only 'wrong' thing was the vet pushing you to have the op.  I far prefer the sound of Vera's vet  ;)
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Doogers on October 07, 2011, 04:34:58 PM
Thought I would update you all,

Indie had her dressing taken off yesterday and the wound is well on the mend. I've had to get her a new born babies sock to cover the wound tho to stop her directly licking it all the time  >:(

Everyone on walkies keep pointing and laughing at the Cocker with the Winnie the Pooh sock. :005:
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Emilyoliver on October 07, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
Great news  :D. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: What would you have done…
Post by: Jessie_Pup on October 07, 2011, 09:32:28 PM


Glad yo hear that Indie's paw is much better.