Jo, you and your family sound like dream puppy owners - if only everyone did it the way you did, the dog-world would be such a nicer place
And i think you're absolutely right, this story has run it's course, so I'm going to close this thread from future posting - for those interested, whinneygirl is no longer with the forum, as she'd been already been removed for contravening the forum's rules and had just registered using a different username :roll: