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Healthy puppy farm puppies??????

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Jane S:
Selling puppies to third party dealers isn't actually illegal unfortunately or against KC rules as such - it is against the KC Code of Ethics for breeders to sell KC reg puppies to dealers but Codes of Ethics are not the same as rules & seem to rarely be enforced. Its a longstanding complaint that the KC accept registrations from large scale commercial breeders/puppy farmers but it seems unlikely they will stop. KC registration is not & never has been a guarantee that a puppy has come from a reputable breeder but some steps have been made in the right direction -the KC have introduced a new Accredited Breeders Scheme to promote good breeding practices, open to breeders who agree to abide by certain standards (including health screening & eventually DNA profiling) It remains to be seen how successful this scheme will be though.

KC/BVA schemes refers to the eye-testing and hip-scoring schemes run jointly by the KC & the BVA. DNA tests refers to the few DNA tests for hereditary diseases that are available in the UK for some breeds (eg Irish Setters, Bedlington Terriers). Billy hasn't had any health screening - if he had there would be details & dates underneath the headings. Also if his parents had been eye-tested, it would give the date & the results (affected or unaffected) after their names.                    

Michele:
The sad fact is that any person can register a litter/s with the KC, as long as the parents are KC reg. This ranges from the person getting together with their neighbour/friend, to the person who churns out litter after litter, to the breeder who breeds a litter occasionally to hopefully have a puppy to show/ as a companion.
The KC issue something called the Breed Record Supplement, which is split into the Groups (Gundog, Toy etc) on a quarterly basis. In it you will see all litters registered for that quarter. When you look through and see that a litter registered is a bitches 5th litter with a total over those litters of 30 or so pups it makes quite depressing reading  :(
The Kennel Club will be reluctant to clamp down entirely on commercial breeders because they make up a large proportion of their revenue :?
Because a pup is KC reg it does'nt give you an assurance of quality/health. This is where you have to use common sense and gut reaction/instinct.                    

PennyB:
Its not just about the puppies involved in puppy farming (at least some of those may find themselves in wonderful loving homes for the rest of their lives), but the poor bitches who are intensively bred often in horrible conditions.                    

Jane S:

--- Quote ---Its not just about the puppies involved in puppy farming (at least some of those may find themselves in wonderful loving homes for the rest of their lives), but the poor bitches who are intensively bred often in horrible conditions.
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Exactly, some bitches on these places will have 2 litters a year until they drop - if they are lucky they might end up in a rescue when their productive days are over but if not, well you can imagine what happens to them :cry:                    

Magic Star:
:cry:  :cry: Its awful that this still goes on, is there an answer?  

Sorry to go off thread :?  but do other European countries have this problem too?  Or are they regulated differently?

Also do reputable breeders outweigh the puppy farms :?  I hope so, it doesn't bear thinking about otherwise!  Maybe we should go back to the days of dog licensing, maybe, anyone who wants to buy a puppy, has to get the license first, in it there will be an information pack highlighting the issues surrounding puppy farmers, hopefully this will put people off, and there should be a list of reputable breeders for them to contact, then no breeder should sell the pup unless the potential owner has a licence, same with insurance, no licence, no insurance :?   Can't see it working well though, but even if it just stops 5% of ppl purchasing from "dodgy" breeders then surely its worth it!                    

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