Dog Listeners

[pamela]

Hi there, I have read Jan Fennells book but haven't followed any of the advice! I'd be interested to read the Jean Donaldson book that I see mentioned a lot on here, anyone know where can you buy it? Tried W H Smith but they had never heard of it.
Ben was quick to pick up clicker training and if I manage to get another pup I would probably use that method for training.

[Jan/Billy]

Hi there, I have read Jan Fennells book but haven't followed any of the advice! I'd be interested to read the Jean Donaldson book that I see mentioned a lot on here, anyone know where can you buy it? Tried W H Smith but they had never heard of it.
Ben was quick to pick up clicker training and if I manage to get another pup I would probably use that method for training.

Waterstones,amazon or if you are lucky you may pick one up off ebay 

[Jan/Billy]

Here is one off ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Culture-Clash-Donaldson-Jean_W0QQitemZ270127434188QQihZ017QQcategoryZ101056QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem



It's a great price (retails £15), it will soon get snapped up 

[Cazzie]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

[Jan/Billy]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

The culture clash is more about understanding their behaviour rather than training 

[Cazzie]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

The culture clash is more about understanding their behaviour rather than training 

If it comes in audio then id get it. I cant read books and digest the contents 

[Jan/Billy]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

The culture clash is more about understanding their behaviour rather than training 

If it comes in audio then id get it. I cant read books and digest the contents 

 

[Cazzie]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

The culture clash is more about understanding their behaviour rather than training 

If it comes in audio then id get it. I cant read books and digest the contents 

 

Jan im serious, im dreadful, show me something or tell me something once and ill never forget it, but ask me to read and digest waist of time 

Anyway back to topic, anyone want the dog whisperer sorry listners book just let me know.

[Bluebell]

I can also jump in here with a free offer!! A Jan Fennel DVD!! It was given to me for my 40th Birthday, It is in mint, unused condition  :005:

[pinkcarys]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

The culture clash is more about understanding their behaviour rather than training 

If it comes in audio then id get it. I cant read books and digest the contents 

 

Jan im serious, im dreadful, show me something or tell me something once and ill never forget it, but ask me to read and digest waist of time 

Anyway back to topic, anyone want the dog whisperer sorry listners book just let me know.

Hi,

If you're serious I'd be happy to take it off your hands? 

-x-

[Cazzie]

I have never consulted a book in my life on how to train dogs. I aint a reader, so if anyone wants Jan Fennels book I will post it to you F.O.C 

The culture clash is more about understanding their behaviour rather than training 

If it comes in audio then id get it. I cant read books and digest the contents 

 

Jan im serious, im dreadful, show me something or tell me something once and ill never forget it, but ask me to read and digest waist of time 

Anyway back to topic, anyone want the dog whisperer sorry listners book just let me know.

Hi,

If you're serious I'd be happy to take it off your hands? 

-x-

Id be happy to send it to you, just pm me you're address 

[Top Barks]

i read all Jan's books and thouroughly enjoyed them at the time, but then i broadened my horizons and learned about learning theory and wolfpack theory and it's demise.
I believe a lot of what Jan does works but not for the reasons she gives.
I tried some of her methods and look back at what a total Pratt i was eating before my dog and trying to make myself pack leader.
I too would recommend the culture clash to read as well as Dominance Fact or Fiction by Barry Eaton and Ray and Lorna coppinger's Dogs, A New Understanding of canine origin, Behaviour and evolution.
I would also reccomend How dogs learn by Burch and Bailey.
I do keep an open mind on all methods but unless Jan has come up with any new ideas then i 'm afraid she has nothing to offer me.
I am on a foundation degree in Canine Behaviour at the moment and her methods are less than popular there too.
Mark

[Joelf]

I can't abide the woman & personally never use any of her methods.

I couldn't be bothered to go through doorways before my dogs & if we ate before them the poor things would never get their meals before midnight!!

I also couldn't be 'pack leader'  - I'm not a dog & I think my dogs realise that!!

Okay, our dogs are throughly spoilt but what the hell - that's what we have them for -  to love & spoil & we've had dogs for the last 25 years & had no problems with them so we must be doing something right!!

[Cob-Web]

I believe a lot of what Jan does works but not for the reasons she gives.

I agree Mark -if a training technique/ethos works, it seems that there are always loads of different "experts" who give a different explanation as to why it works - the cynic in me suggests that it is purely in order to profit through books/TV etc   

[Top Barks]

In some ways you have to say fair play to them Rachel even if you don't agree with everything they say.
I just wonder if jan has ever read these books listed above?
I would like the name and address of her publicist though!
Now there is someone who knows what they are doing
mark