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Offline wahm

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« on: February 28, 2005, 12:53:10 PM »
I collected a 6 month old Cocker Spaniel from a bad home yesterday.
He has been kept in a stable since he was born and have had almost no contact with humans.
As i type he is in a dog cage in my lounge with a blanket over the top.The door is open.He hides and cowers if i go near him.
I have been watching him from a distance and he's looking keenly at whatever my 2.5 year old son is doing!.
Does anyone have any tips on socialising him etc?.
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Sue & Barley x


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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2005, 01:19:23 PM »
I would try to let him come out of his own accord as he feels braver, as you would a tiny puppy.  He looks a lovely dog.  It's such a shame that some people treat them like that. He sound as if he has been shouted at (or worse) if he got in the way so he's keeping well back.  Please be very careful with regard to your young son as the pup could be unpredictable if he has been mistreated.
 Sammy's first owners used to keep him in the shed and he was only allowed into the house for an hour each evening so that the kids could play with him.  Even then he was made to sit still and not jump around.  How they managed that with a young Cocker I don't know.  They must have been really tough with him.
The elderly couple that we got him from told us about his previous owners.
They in turn did not want him as he was ruining their garden. (he had a thing about flowers - he flattened them with a single bound).  They were treating him ok - his bed was inside the house, but I don't think they realised when they got him how lively a young Cocker would be.  They had previously had an elderly Labrador.
I do hope he gets his confidence back soon, and can come to you  for the cuddles that he needs and deserves.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2005, 02:35:57 PM »
Aah Sue, this makes me soooooo sad, the poor little mite.

If I were you I would just be gentle with him, speak gently and low and just let him come round in his own time.  His reaction to you is probably cause he really doesn't know how to act around humans and doesn't know what is expected from him.  

He's probably very frightened and needs to build up trust and know you're not going to hurt him in any way.

I'm definetly no expert but am sure you'll get lots of replies from people who have more experience than me.

I'm sure in time he'll be fine.

Good luck and give him lots of cuddles from me  :)
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 03:00:19 PM »
Well done Sue for giving this gorgeous boy a loving home he deserves :) I think my gut reaction is to do what Joanne and Polly suggested and just let him come to you in his own time, he must be so scared and once he realises no one is going to shout (or worse) at him his curiosity will get the better of him and he will come to you but I would be very quiet and gentle to begin with otherwise he will run and hide away Im sure he will find the trust and confidence in you
please let us know Sue how he progresses

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2005, 03:05:06 PM »
I second what the others have said but please do be careful with your little son when they are together. Good luck and well done :D
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2005, 03:08:23 PM »
aww sue such a young boy and already had a bad time :( well done for taking him home with you :)
all the very best wishes to you and in time i,m sure he will be as happy as he deserves to be,good luck and keep us posted, ;)
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2005, 03:19:00 PM »
UPDATE
Barley waited until my son went to day nursery this afternoon and then he suddenly got really brave and...came out of the dog cage!.
He's taken a shine to our persian cat Simba.Simba has only a slight interest in Barley and seems quite bemused by him.
Simba decided to lay on my sons play table which made Barley get a bit giddy!.I actually saw his stumpy tail wag!.
He is now laid down (infront of the play table with Simba still on it)on his side snoozing away.............
It's just a shame that as soon as i move he'll jump up like a frightened rabbit :( .
He was going to the vets this afternoon but i have just cancelled it as i don't want to scare him yet.The recieptionist (who we already know due to the cats) said that when he was ready he can join one of their puppy classes.She's really looking forward to meeting him as cat Simba is one of her favourite patients!.
I also had an ID tag cut for him today just incase anything happens between now and him getting his microchip.
Sue & Barley x :)


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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2005, 03:35:15 PM »
:) ....Oh that's wonderful, it sounds like he is starting to find his feet.
If he has had very little socialisation then it will take a little longer than normal, but he is still young.
Just be very vigilant when your young son is around, the pup could be frightened of him and you need to monitor his reactions carefully.
Let the pup do all the advances at the moment, so that he doesnt feel overwhelmed.

It's sounding good though :)

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2005, 03:58:36 PM »
Patience and more patience needed in these cases Sue.

My Brother took in a German Shepherd that was beaten badly by its male owner. It hated men but loved women. My Brother could not get near Elsa for at least 4 weeks and then it took to him but still would not go near any other man and would snap at them if they approached it.

I used to walk with my Brother and Elsa for many miles and for many weeks until one day we were walking along Elsa brushed my hand with her head as she passed me. We carried on walking and she did it again. From that time on she trusted me.

Elsa lived to be a good age and had a really special life with my brother and his wife. She was a lovely dog and so effectionate.

The trick is as all the others posts have stated let the dog come to you and give it undivided love and it will soon trust you.

I sincerely hope all will be well and am pleased that Barley has found a good home.

Keep us posted on progress please.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2005, 04:06:01 PM »
:) Aw Sue, Barley looks gorgeous.  No experience of rescue I'm afraid, but I guess you just have to gain his trust and it sounds like you are doing the right things.

 :) Well done for giving this poor little mite a chance of a loving home and keep us posted on how he is getting along.  

Lots of love to Barley from us xxx
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2005, 04:18:15 PM »
Sue that's great  :) keep on coming back with those updates :)

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2005, 04:20:30 PM »
No advise for you Sue other than whats already been suggested, but just wanted to say how wonderful I think you are to give this poor boy his new loving forever home, it's going to take time and patience to bring the real cocker beauty out of this lad but once you do you'll never look back  :)

Maria, Blue & Bailey. xx


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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2005, 04:25:45 PM »
Patience and gentle socializing.

It might be worth getting hold of a DAP diffuser to help chill him out a little. Ask your vet about these.

Well done for taking him on. It won't be easy but at least here and on dogpages (where I saw your 1st post) there are plenty of people around for help and support.

I would also recommend TTouch (but then I do for loads of things) but its brilliant for helping build up a bond between you and your dog and their confidence. It wouldn't cost a lot and you could probably learn a lot in just one session (plus there's a book which is useful but I think even better to be shown how in the 1st place):

TTouch and TTeam

Tilley Farm home of TTouch in the UK

TTouch US site
Friends of Hailey Park
Four Paws Animal Rescue (South Wales)

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2005, 04:37:33 PM »
I can vouch for TTouch Sue having used it for my cocker who is a very nervous boy and cant recommend it enough, it has brought him on no end and I'm so pleased with the results  :)
Maria, Blue & Bailey. xx


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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2005, 08:22:30 PM »
Dear Sue,

I have already admired Barley on a different thread (yes, he's blue-roan and tan) and I am already quite confused since my 9yo golden bitch is called Barley !!

It would help if you could let us know something about his 'previous life' since I work for the Blue Cross and we are used to dealing with dogs who have had (at least) one home and trying to get to know what makes them tick ...

The really important time for puppies is between say 4 - 12 weeks when they are really impressionable - after that time, you have to work much harder to get them to react in the same comfortable way, simply because they may not have had the sensory input that a normally-homed puppy would have had ... They think the hoover is a monster; the dustmen are fiends (which they sometimes can resemble, but if you ask them, they will bring doggy treats, and you can let yours out so that the fiends can ingratiate themselves over the gate - works with Postmen/ladies too!).

Having a place of safety, like your crate, is nice, but perhaps you should restrict that to sleepy-time and night time, and make it more open and accessible during the day.  Doooo 'baby' him and cuddle him lots and make him secure, but on the other hand, take him out and (whilst he feels cuddled and mummied) show him traffic, shoppers etc. and above all, other dogs and their owners ... don't be tooo protective, so that he feels as though a confrontation is about to happen, rather be jolly and 'cool' and if he yelps or jumps behind you, and the other dog is just socialising, bring him out again and reinforce that all this is OK !!

It would be really nice if when you are on a local walk you could find someone with a dog who is cool to Barley and lets him pounce and fiddle and generally do all the things that young dogs need to do to find out their own social hierarchy ...  such people DO exist, and don't be afraid to let him off-lead to play ....