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Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 11, 2005, 05:28:18 PM
Got the majority of the results back this afternoon and it would seem we are dealing with a kidney problem :(  I wasn't expecting any abnormalities in the blood work up as he appears fine in himself and he isn't even 3 years old.  Although the levels are above normal reference range, they are not massively increased so I am going to put my optimistic head on ;) The vet is going to wait for the remainder of the results to come back before compiling a plan of action - hopefully there won't be any other nasty surprises to come :unsure: Should have them in the next day or two.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pammy on April 11, 2005, 05:34:07 PM
aaw Gill - I know it's not what you were expecting but if nothing else at least if you know what you're dealing with you can take the apt action. Fingers x'd the other results are OK. :(  ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Michele on April 11, 2005, 05:38:35 PM
Sorry to hear your news Gill, but at least you've been prompt in getting him checked out.
Fingers X'd that there is nothing nasty lurking.

Thinking of you x x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suzysu on April 11, 2005, 05:41:54 PM
Aw sorry to hear that Gill - keeping our fingers and paws crossed that the other results are clear  xxxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Emma&Harry on April 11, 2005, 05:45:57 PM
sorry to hear your news, particulalry as you werent expecting this. i hope that the rest of the results come back clear. wishing Vegas the best
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Mary on April 11, 2005, 05:48:25 PM
Hope the next batch of results are OK Gill :(   On the positive side, it's good to know that you may have an answer to the problems, lets just hope whatever the problem is that is easily treatable ;)   Keep us posted.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Gilly on April 11, 2005, 06:10:17 PM
Can only echo what has been said by the others  ;) He's in the best hands possible having you as his Mum Gill  :)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on April 11, 2005, 06:56:45 PM
Fingers crossed Gill, that the next results will be ok  :)  give your gorgeous boy  a squidge from me. (((hugs)))
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Louis on April 11, 2005, 06:56:45 PM
Hi Gill

Hope everything turns out ok ;)  fingers crossed  for you.

Gemma&Louis
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Sheila on April 11, 2005, 06:56:47 PM
Sorry to hear about the results, but at least you now know what the problem is.
I hope the rest of the results come back clear.

BIG HUGS for Vegas and kisses from Lottie and Goldiexx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: bluegirl on April 11, 2005, 07:00:33 PM
Sorry about the results and I hope that the awaited ones are better news.

Parsley dried or raw and honey are both excellent for the kidneys and I used these on a twice daily basis in the past with my old dog and they halved the toxic creatinine and urea levels with her within 4 weeks. It even amazed my Vet.

A maintenance dose is once daily.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: shonajoy on April 11, 2005, 07:14:39 PM
Im sorry Gill - I hope its something treatable, Im glad he has you for a mum x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Annette on April 11, 2005, 07:50:42 PM
Thinking of you
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: daunting on April 11, 2005, 07:57:22 PM
Poor Vegas - hope the next results are good news for you both.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Colin on April 11, 2005, 08:02:10 PM

Poor Vegas - he's not having much luck is he ? :( Here's hoping the rest of the tests have a better outcome and that the kidney problem can be overcome.

Good luck, Gill.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Cathy on April 11, 2005, 08:19:12 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: sweetie on April 11, 2005, 08:43:43 PM
aww gill hope all will be ok with the next results ;) sure they will be,,keeping everything crossed for you hun :) xxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Rhona on April 11, 2005, 09:13:44 PM
Hi Gill

I am sorry to hear about Vegas kidney results.  I hope the results you are waiting for are all good news.

Thinking about you.

Rhona
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Magic Star on April 11, 2005, 09:42:20 PM
Thinking of you Gill and sending you and Vegas positive thoughts xx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Allison on April 11, 2005, 10:32:45 PM
EVERYTHING CROSSED FOR YOU .XX
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: catwillow on April 12, 2005, 08:06:40 AM
Keeping you and Vegas in our thoughts Gill..... Hope there is no more bad news only good.....

Take care
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on April 12, 2005, 12:57:01 PM
Gill,

Sorry to hear about the results, fingers crossed for you and Vegas.

Michelle
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: kookie on April 12, 2005, 02:12:11 PM
Everything is collectively crossed for you.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Shirley on April 12, 2005, 08:25:27 PM
Aawww, poor Vegas.  Am just catching up and have only just realised that Vegas was unwell  :( .  Hopefully he'll be fine once he's had treatment for his problem.  I'm sure that you know all that there is to know from your vet but there was an interesting arcticle in Aprils issue of Your Dog, about kidney problems and how much better the treatment is these days.  Give him a big hug from me and tell him toget better soon  ;)  :)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 15, 2005, 05:46:06 PM
The last of the results are in and appears to point to Addison's disease :(  He doesn't really have much of the physical symptoms (I mean one of them is stunted growth :lol:  :lol: ) but his kidney levels are high and his potassium to sodium ratio is low which would indicate Addison's. He is having an ACTH stim test done on Monday which will tell us for definite. He certainly won't be impressed at having to miss his breakfast :P
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suzysu on April 15, 2005, 05:57:24 PM
Aw Gill - sorry to hear Vegas has a problem.  Don't know anything about Addisons, but hope there is some treatment he can have to help  ;)  Thinking of you and sending healing thoughts  :wub: xxxxxxxxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pammy on April 15, 2005, 06:17:07 PM
aaaw - poor Vegas. Hope the results are conclusive one way or the other.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Sprout's on April 15, 2005, 06:18:16 PM
Gill,

I'm so sorry for You and Vegas. I really hope Vegas makes a full recovery soon. Everything crossed for Monday.

God bless

Jane
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Gilly on April 15, 2005, 06:43:36 PM
Poor Vegas!! and poor you!!! fingers crossed for Monday  :)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Annette on April 15, 2005, 06:48:04 PM
Wishing you all the best for Monday. Hope it goes ok.

Let us know when you have more news.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: JaneES on April 15, 2005, 10:52:29 PM
Sorry to read your mails about Vegas, hope all goes ok on Monday.  I dont know anything about Addisons, fingers crossed from all of us.
Take care and hugs to Vegas
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pipers Mummy on April 15, 2005, 11:38:28 PM
Oh, Gill I have not been able to get on the site for a while so missed all of this.  I am so sorry to hear about Vegas  :(  but as others have said I suppose that at least now you know what you are dealing with  :)

As always, you are approaching this situation in an optimistic and positive way - well done you.

Louise x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Dunton4 on April 16, 2005, 11:06:44 AM
Sorry to hear this, Gill.  Sending you and Vegas lots of positive thoughts and ((hug)).  Good luck for Monday, we will be thinking of you.

Sue and Tilly
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: daunting on April 16, 2005, 11:15:34 AM
Good luck for monday Gill and Vegas.
Hugs to you both.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suki1964 on April 16, 2005, 04:21:11 PM
Just catching up and am sorry to hear that vegas has been poorly :(

Hope all goes well on Monday and that Vegas soon gets the treatment he needs

Hugs and best wishes to you both
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Penel on April 17, 2005, 07:23:17 PM
Oh dear, another cocker with a possible auto immune diagnosis - this is not good.... however, its great that you may have diagnosed Addison's very early on, and that Vegas is not having an Addisonian "crisis" which is very serious.
Please let us know what the ACTH results are - if you can get pre and post results that would be very interesting.
If you need any help - you're more than welcome to join my AI support group - there are lots of Addisons folks on there.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Sprout's on April 17, 2005, 07:35:23 PM
Gill, I hope you have had a better day today and that Vegas is comfortable. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. Sending you lots of wishes for a peaceful night

God bless

Jane
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: catwillow on April 17, 2005, 07:40:08 PM
Wishing you all the very best for monday Gill,

(((((((((((huggles)))))))))))) for vegas :)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 17, 2005, 07:59:42 PM
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Oh dear, another cocker with a possible auto immune diagnosis - this is not good.... however, its great that you may have diagnosed Addison's very early on, and that Vegas is not having an Addisonian "crisis" which is very serious.
Please let us know what the ACTH results are - if you can get pre and post results that would be very interesting.
If you need any help - you're more than welcome to join my AI support group - there are lots of Addisons folks on there.
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We are doing the pre and post results so will get a definite diagnosis - should have the results Tuesday.  I'm going to regret asking this but what is an Addisonian crisis???  I haven't actually looked into addisons at all - am waiting until I know if thats what is wrong with him - ignorance is bliss and all that ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Penel on April 17, 2005, 08:05:22 PM
If he was having an Addisonian crisis, you'd know about it - he'd be floppy, lethargic and very very poorly, probably vomiting and diarrhoea too ....
Stay ignorant til after Monday thats the best thing LOL !!!  ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Dessie on April 17, 2005, 08:24:04 PM
Dear Gill

So sorry to hear about Vegas the poor boy he certainly has had a run of bad luck.  Keeping everything crossed for you all.

Take care

Dessie
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suzysu on April 17, 2005, 08:36:14 PM
Will be thinking of you and Vegas tommorrow, Gill, fingers crossed for a positive result, Luv and hugs xxxxxxxxxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Mary on April 17, 2005, 09:31:32 PM
Gill, good luck with Vegas in the morning.  You know we have a real soft spot for him in this household so give him a big hug for us please :wub: Poor thing missing brekkie too :(
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *-Nikki-* on April 17, 2005, 09:54:09 PM
Only just spotted this :blink: ...srry Gill :huh: .
Will be thinking of you and Vegas tommorrow  :) xx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Annette on April 17, 2005, 10:07:49 PM
Thinking of you. Hope it goes well.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Elisa on April 17, 2005, 10:10:52 PM
Good luck for tomorrow.  Hope everything goes well.

xx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: taniac on April 18, 2005, 11:11:19 AM
I've got everything crossed for you!  Hope to hear all is okay tomorrow  ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Sprout's on April 18, 2005, 10:21:26 PM
Gill and vegas

Thinking of you

Good luck tomorrow


Jane
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suzysu on April 18, 2005, 10:24:33 PM
Thinking of you and hoping you get some positive news tommorrow  ;) x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: kookie on April 19, 2005, 06:43:39 AM
Any news on Vegas yet? Hows the wee babe doing?
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: paulb on April 19, 2005, 08:48:08 AM
Hope he is ok , i have been reading this thread closley, how is he doing?
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 19, 2005, 02:46:39 PM
He's not too bad thanks. Just seems a bit sleepy. Still waiting on the results - might not get them until tomorrow as the sample didn't get sent till late yesterday afternoon.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: daftcockers on April 19, 2005, 04:04:22 PM
Thinking about you all hope everythings ok.

Big licks from my lot
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on April 19, 2005, 04:08:24 PM
Thinking about you as well Gill, give him a big (((hug))) from me, and Nell sends him a big sloppy lab kiss  :wub:
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pipers Mummy on April 19, 2005, 11:45:58 PM
Me and Pipes are thinking about Cousin Vegas  :)   Fingers crossed and lots of love.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: tracey on April 20, 2005, 07:15:50 AM
Thinking of you too :)

Tracey :)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Magic Star on April 20, 2005, 07:37:31 AM
Best wishes for today Gill  :) x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: shonajoy on April 20, 2005, 07:55:41 AM
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He's not too bad thanks. Just seems a bit sleepy. Still waiting on the results - might not get them until tomorrow as the sample didn't get sent till late yesterday afternoon.
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Thinking of you, kisses to Vegas. xxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 20, 2005, 10:41:59 AM
The results came back first thing and although the post ACTH sample was below reference value, it apparently rules out Addisons.  Which of course is good news but still makes us none the wiser. He has been on Nutrical(a high calorie food supplement) for a week and his weight has remained stable at 12.3kg.  The vet seems to think the best thing to do is leave it for 2-3 months and retest his kidney levels (probably because they can't think of anything else to test for :lol: )
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Annette on April 20, 2005, 11:06:37 AM
Good news in a way, as you say, but still frustrating.

Do hope he will do well on the Nutrical.

Thank you for letting us know
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Penel on April 20, 2005, 11:40:39 AM
Well its great news that it is not Addison's.
Does he seem well in himself at the moment ?
I wonder if it could be an absorption problem ?
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Gilly on April 20, 2005, 01:05:59 PM
Well thankfully he doesn't have Addisons  ;)
On the other hand your still no nearer the truth  :huh: let's hope that they can find the answer soon.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Magic Star on April 20, 2005, 01:10:18 PM
Aww Gill, relief its not Addisons but sorry your no closer to a firm diagnosis, hope things settle down xxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: shonajoy on April 20, 2005, 01:57:04 PM
I know how frustrating that is, Im glad he's stable though. Hamish's test results weren't consclusive either apparently, though I'll know more tomorrow. I have the report but can't understand it,lol.

Hope he continues to be fine.x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 20, 2005, 02:50:51 PM
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Well its great news that it is not Addison's.
Does he seem well in himself at the moment ?
I wonder if it could be an absorption problem ?
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An absorption problem was my first thought but the TLI test came back fine. I was debating whether to send a faeces sample off for a comprehensive analysis but I'm assuming that if he had any bugs, then his poo would be runny. I'm claiming it off the insurance so just want to make sure I've gone down every avenue.

He is fine in himself, a bit more sleepy than normal, but eating/drinking/pooing/peeing fine. Still running around the park etc so he's not unwell.

Guess I'll just have to uhhm and ahhh over it a bit more :rolleyes:
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Silver Surfer (indiesnan) on April 20, 2005, 05:01:44 PM
Hi Gill so pleased for you that it's not Addisons, i hope you get a diagnosis soon. Give him a hug from me. xx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Mary on April 20, 2005, 05:49:21 PM
Good news it's not Addisons anyway Gill ;)

Still frustrating not knowing though, let's hope you find an answer soon ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suzysu on April 20, 2005, 06:03:14 PM
Pleased he is ok in himself Gill and that its not Addisons  ;) - hope you will manage to find out what it is so that you can feel more relaxed soon x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Cathy on April 20, 2005, 06:19:05 PM
Hi Gill,

Glad to hear the news is promising.

Take Care X
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: izzy&dave on April 20, 2005, 06:28:54 PM
keep your chin up & hope things work out  ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Sprout's on April 20, 2005, 06:54:36 PM
So pleased to hear it's not addison's. I hope you get a clear diagnosis soon. The not knowing must be so stressful.

It's great to hear that he seems so much better in himself and is enjoying life. :D

Lots of hugs for Vegas

Jane

Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pammy on April 20, 2005, 07:59:33 PM
ditto - coz they've said it all :D  :P  :lol:

{{{huggles}}} for the wee fella :P
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Shirley on April 20, 2005, 10:20:56 PM
Glad it's not Addison's, Gill.  Hope he's perked up a bit!  :)

Send him hugs and smooches from me and the lads  ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: PennyB on April 20, 2005, 11:16:22 PM
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The results came back first thing and although the post ACTH sample was below reference value, it apparently rules out Addisons.  Which of course is good news but still makes us none the wiser. He has been on Nutrical(a high calorie food supplement) for a week and his weight has remained stable at 12.3kg.  The vet seems to think the best thing to do is leave it for 2-3 months and retest his kidney levels (probably because they can't think of anything else to test for :lol: )
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Have you thought of being referred on or is your vet also dealing with someone else as well (one vet I had liaised with Bristol vet school throughout the week my cat was hospitalised at my local practice and then we eventually took the cat up for a consult).

Hope you get some clearer more positive news soon.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pipers Mummy on April 21, 2005, 03:09:30 AM
Hi Gill,
Pleased to hear that it is not Addisons.  Thank goodness for insurance - it really does allow us to explore all options and leave no stone unturned.  Good luck with the little man  :)

Louise x
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 21, 2005, 07:37:33 AM
I've collected poo and pee samples this morning so will send them off and get them to test for everything :lol:

Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: *Jay* on April 25, 2005, 05:39:48 PM
Well, $250.00 (can't get pound signs on this computer :rolleyes: ) worth of tests tell me there is diddly squat wrong with him :lol:  :lol:  The vet doesn't seem to think that his weight loss is connected with the kidney levels so we are going to leave it and retest his levels in a couple of months. He has managed to put on a whole 0.1kg since we started using the Nutrical - so its a teeny weeny step in the right direction ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: suzysu on April 25, 2005, 06:09:22 PM
Oh dear Gill - thats a lot of money  :blink:  - but pleased to hear nothing was found on the tests  ;)  Lets hope he continues with his teeny weeny steps  ;)  :D

Big hugs from us xxxxxxxxx
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Gilly on April 25, 2005, 06:21:24 PM
Ah well back to square one  :rolleyes:  :lol:
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: sweetie on April 25, 2005, 06:40:20 PM
glad he,s ok gilly,,hope you get to the bottom of it all ;)  :D
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Sprout's on April 25, 2005, 08:48:17 PM
Gilly,

Glad to hear that he's making steps in the right direction and that the tests have not revealed any nasties.

Well done Vegas  :D

Jane
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: daunting on April 25, 2005, 08:51:26 PM
Pleased the tests were clear :)
Here's hoping teeny steps turn into bigger ones :D
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Pammy on April 25, 2005, 09:01:14 PM
lol - he's keeping you guessing isn't he :D

Hope he's OK.
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Jane S on April 25, 2005, 09:05:07 PM
Vegas is certainly proving a challenge to veterinary science isn't he :lol: Hope he continues to improve slowly but surely :)

Jane
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Shirley on April 25, 2005, 10:56:36 PM
Poor Vegas and poor you  :(  , all these tests and no answers  <_< it's very strange.  Hope he continues to improve and you find out what's been causing his problems  ;)
Title: Vegas' Results Are In
Post by: Laura on May 02, 2005, 01:58:08 AM
Haven't been on here for what seems like weeks - popped on quickly the other day to send you a pm - so didn't see this post   :ph34r:  Hope Vegas is still improving - sending him a great big ((((HUG))))) and another one from the boys ((((HUG))))  he sure likes to keep you guessing   :rolleyes:   Hope you get this sorted real soon!! :)