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Cocker Specific Discussion => General Cocker Spaniel Discussion => Topic started by: helen1 on October 23, 2006, 05:58:11 PM
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Im getting really fed up of people stopping us when we walk Bailey and asking if he's a Rottweiler >:D (or how ever you spell it) He's a cocker spaniel and a working cocker spaniel at that! :luv:
In the park, at the shop, even on the farm where my daughter keeps her horse, everyone says how much he looks like a Rotty :005:
He is black and tan and seemingly this is unusual.............wasnt aware of it to be honest, just thought he was the cutest little pup I had ever seen when we picked him :D
So if anyone round my end is on here.................He's a cocker ;) and we :luv: him loads :005:
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worker round here that is black and tan gets called a tall dachsie, a short dobie, a gordon setter, and a rotty cross
jarv gets called a short red setter, a german shorthaired pointer, a saluki cross ::) amongst other breeds
you'll get used to it ;)
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I get asked if mine are actually poodle crosses when their fur gets a bit curly
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Yes, I heard someone saying "Look at that lovely poodle" as we walked past >:(
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I was stood talking to a woman with a daschund a similar colour to charlie, and someome came up and asked if they were related! :huh:
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worker round here that is black and tan gets called a tall dachsie, a short dobie, a gordon setter, and a rotty cross
Billy has often been mistaken for a gordon setter ::) I've even had cocker spaniel owners ask me what breed he is!! They say they didn't know you could have B&T cockers!! ::)
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Dillon is a blue roan, as was the late Bess. I always have my dogs clipped very short in the summer and quite regularly children would point to my dogs and say something along the lines of "Look mummy dalmation puppies!" :005:
Nelly is black & tan & I sometimes call her my little Rottie ;)
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paddy is b&t working cocker too.he gets mistaken for all kinds,usually a mongrel :lol:i don't mind when people mistake him for a gordon setter.i love them.
had a major falling out with the gas man who was here to service the boiler a while back.he wouldn't believe there was such a thing as a working cocker.he thought paddy was a springer cross and ellie a springer.when i said no,they are working cockers he replied,oh is that what they call springers now.oooh i wanted to strangle him :005:
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MY OLD GIRL SOPHIE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF COAT ON HEAD AND FEET , ONE DAY WE WALKED PAST A CARAVAN ON THE PARK WE KEPT OURS ON AND HEARD " OH LUCK DADDY IT`S A LITTLE LION". :005: :005: :005:
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he wouldn't believe there was such a thing as a working cocker.he thought paddy was a springer cross and ellie a springer.when i said no,they are working cockers he replied,oh is that what they call springers now.oooh i wanted to strangle him :005:
Nooo Lyn. He's right you know ;) :005:. According to a lot of the people round here-
This is Heidi our springer and Fern "her pup" ::) .
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/happydog123/img580.jpg)
It didn't get any easier as we let Heidi's feathers grow and Fern reached the wooly mammoth stage...
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/happydog123/img583.jpg)
People were even more convinced and looked at me very doubtfully when I insist she's a working cocker. I can almost hear them thinking "she's obviously a little touched -I shall have to humour her...." :005:
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he wouldn't believe there was such a thing as a working cocker.he thought paddy was a springer cross and ellie a springer.when i said no,they are working cockers he replied,oh is that what they call springers now.oooh i wanted to strangle him :005:
Nooo Lyn. He's right you know ;) :005:. According to a lot of the people round here-
This is Heidi our springer and Fern "her pup" ::) .
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/happydog123/img580.jpg)
It didn't get any easier as we let Heidi's feathers grow and Fern reached the wooly mammoth stage...
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/happydog123/img583.jpg)
People were even more convinced and looked at me very doubtfully when I insist she's a working cocker. I can almost hear them thinking "she's obviously a little touched -I shall have to humour her...." :005:
:rofl1: :rofl1: :rofl1:
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I've had the poodle comments and I had someone stop me in the street the other week who thought mine were all cavaliers!! Whats worse was he had 2 cavaliers himself ::)
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I've had the poodle comments and I had someone stop me in the street the other week who thought mine were all cavaliers!! Whats worse was he had 2 cavaliers himself ::)
i have to admit i can't tell the difference between a working springer and a working cocker and i have 2 working cockers but they seem to be the only 2 in this town.working sprigers really do look like working cockers to me :005:
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There is this one dog who comes into the vets that we have down as a working springer but I'm convinced its a working cocker. Its blue roan for a start but nobody else believes me :huh:
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oh my,i would just have to put them straight.maybe you should take in a photo of a blue roan working cocker to show them.i would :D
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i have to admit i can't tell the difference between a working springer and a working cocker and i have 2 working cockers but they seem to be the only 2 in this town.working sprigers really do look like working cockers to me :005:
Heidi was a working springer Lyn -as were Jess and Becca (below).
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/happydog123/BeccaandJess.jpg)
Does that help at all?
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MY OLD GIRL SOPHIE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF COAT ON HEAD AND FEET , ONE DAY WE WALKED PAST A CARAVAN ON THE PARK WE KEPT OURS ON AND HEARD " OH LUCK DADDY IT`S A LITTLE LION". :005: :005: :005:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I had someone stop me in the street the other week who thought mine were all cavaliers!! Whats worse was he had 2 cavaliers himself ::)
:005: :005: Nutter :lol: :lol:
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(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a22/MWeeks/Picture494.jpg)
This is Mikey, he's been called a black golden retriever :D, a long haired black lab :005: and a miniture flat coat retriever :lol:.
In actual fact, as we all know here on COL - he's a handsome working cocker :luv:
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I know exactly how you feel, when Ollie was a pup people used to ask if he was a Rottie, now they think he's a Setter! >:( :005:
My lil'Rottie! ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/Nutsy/Doggies/Cutie-1.jpg)
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Dillon (chocolate show cocker) has been called a working cocker, a field spaniel, a poodle ( ::)) and more recently a 'sausage dog' ( :o)
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I once asked a chocolate working cockers mum what breed he was! (bearing in mind i was standing there with my Stanley (Golden CS)
The lady looked at me as if i had three heads >:( and said - He's a cocker spaniel TOO! >:D
She did make me feel a right numpty!
I just replied with 'ooooh theres curly his coat is!' - as a compliment like!
'hes a working' i was barked back at >:(
mmmm nice lady! :005:
Well now i know better eh!
Jo x :005:
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Sam has been called a poodle, a labrador and once my Oh was heckled when out walking him by some teenagers who said he was walking a 'gay' dog :005: :005:
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i have to admit i can't tell the difference between a working springer and a working cocker and i have 2 working cockers but they seem to be the only 2 in this town.working sprigers really do look like working cockers to me :005:
Heidi was a working springer Lyn -as were Jess and Becca (below).
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f305/happydog123/BeccaandJess.jpg)
Does that help at all?
happydog,i can tell on photo's,mostly.just not when they're there in front of me in the flesh.paddy was the first time i ever saw a working cocker and he's only half worker :D i knew of them vaguely.i am getting a little better at telling the difference,or is it that we never see working cockers here just the odd springer or two.so i always say "ooh what a lovely little springer" :D
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According to someone who owns and competes with a Working Cocker Beatle is a small Springer, she could tell by the colouring. ::) ::)And....another member at puppy class I was asked if she was a Jack Russell :005:
She's got a bit of growing to do if she's a springer....6 months old and nearly 8 kilos!!
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k184/jllancaster/Beatle2006.jpg)
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ellie was mistaken for a jack russel a few times :005: and when he was a little puppy,paddy was often taken for a sausage dog :lol:
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I have to own up to the fact that in my complete ignorance and before we started to research cockers, I didn't know they could be black and tan :embarassed: Sorry :'(
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Just a quick question. You can get working cocker and show cocker, can you get show springer??
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Just a quick question. You can get working cocker and show cocker, can you get show springer??
Yes. Working springers are generally shorter legged and stockier. A show springer is generally taller and more 'elegant' and in my experience slighter more hyper - but I fully expect to get shot down in flames for that last remark ph34r :005:
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Even when I joined the Gundog club the man asked me if Badger was a mongrel (as his Grandad was Jade of Livermere I wasn't amused)
I have also been asked if they are Springer crosses
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Just a quick question. You can get working cocker and show cocker, can you get show springer??
Yes. Working springers are generally shorter legged and stockier. A show springer is generally taller and more 'elegant' and in my experience slighter more hyper - but I fully expect to get shot down in flames for that last remark ph34r :005:
I had a show springer before having cockers. He was tall and completely gorgeous. I have to say that both my Cockers have been more hyper though!!! :005: Maybe I just had a calm Springer?!
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Took baby Louie to dog training last week and was pounced on by another cocker owner who asked why I'd clipped him!
I tried to explain "working" cocker and she said hers was from working lines - he's from the same lines as Jasper (Same breeder) so I know that breeder does take them shooting but couldn't quite get over the point that show types were developed with more coat and still pedigree shorter coated "worker" types. Sure she still thinks I clipped him...
He is only 14 weeks anyway.. :005: :005:
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Am collecting my black and tan "show type" pup on Thursday and the breeder has warned me about the question other dog owners will ask, "Hasn't that Rottie got long ears?" :lol: and the question other cocker owners will ask "Didn't know you could get black and tan cockers" (obviously cocker owners who don't read up on the breed ::)).
Talking about owners that don't read up, I bumped into a lady today who had a beautiful black working cocker and got talking as I commented on how gorgeous she was. She said "she's a cocker spaniel", so I said, oh yes, I know, I have one at home myself and am getting another pup on Thursday, but mine are the show type". She replied "what do you mean, are there different types", so I said "yes, and yours is definetly the working type". She was absolutely clueless :o She then began to complain about how much exercise the dog seemed to need - I felt like telling her that if she had bothered to read up on the breed beforehand she would have known.
It gets me how people can own a breed of dog and not even pick up a book or bother to find out a bit about it. Should have told her to come on here :lol:
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Talking about owners that don't read up, I bumped into a lady today who had a beautiful black working cocker and got talking as I commented on how gorgeous she was. She said "she's a cocker spaniel", so I said, oh yes, I know, I have one at home myself and am getting another pup on Thursday, but mine are the show type". She replied "what do you mean, are there different types", so I said "yes, and yours is definetly the working type". She was absolutely clueless :o She then began to complain about how much exercise the dog seemed to need - I felt like telling her that if she had bothered to read up on the breed beforehand she would have known.
I know, I don't confess to knowing that much, but the lady who asked about me clipping the puppy wants to get a bitch so she can breed from her pair. The dog she has was born with a throat problem which may not be genetic, but she was a bit put out when I queried why she'd want to breed from him. He's a lovely natured dog but IMO don't see that that is good enough reason.. especially as clearly she doesn't know that much about the breed!
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i must also confess to be completely ignorant about there being different types of cocker spaniels until we met a working-type at the seaside in devon.
we were wondering about what type of dog we might like to have at the time and so were paying very close attention to every dog we saw. walking along, we came across this absolutely gorgeous blue roan spaniel who just made my heart melt she was so keen to make friends. i think i then asked her owner what type of spaniel she was as i had no clue and i must have looked surprised when she said that willow was a cocker spaniel. i remember thinking 'oooh, i must rethink cockers' as (i must admit) i wasn't such a fan of the look of show cockers (don't hate me- i've now seen the error of my ways as i've met so many gorgous ones whilst out with barkers). the owner clearly registered this and patiently elaborated that she was a working-type and therefore looked different.
i went home, did lots of research, and am now happily educating most dog walkers that i meet in west sussex. so far, i reckon 95% of the people we've met have asked what type of dog barkley is, or assumed incorrectly that he is a springer, or a dachshund (when he was ickle), or a retriever, or most often a cross-breed. 3 people have told me i must be mistaken and that he can't possibly be a cocker. only 1 person has known for definite what he is. that was a magical moment, especially as she absolutely gushed over my boy and said what a wonderful example of the breed he was. :luv: i was one proud mummy!
you definitely have to just be patient and try to take the attitude that it's quite fun to confuddle people who like to think they know their dog breeds. ;)
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Domino is a show-type but has been mistaken for a collie (perhaps because he's B&W?!) & the other week a lady said to me "Oh,what a beautiful Cavalier Spaniel" :huh: I replied "Yes,he is beautiful but he's actually a cocker!" ;)
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and the question other cocker owners will ask "Didn't know you could get black and tan cockers" (obviously cocker owners who don't read up on the breed ::)).
I get this a lot although they often call Billy Brown and black ::)
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the other week a lady said to me "Oh,what a beautiful Cavalier Spaniel" :huh: I replied "Yes,he is beautiful but he's actually a cocker!" ;)
beautiful domino does have markings that are so common in cavalier king charles' that i suppose it's a little understandable that someone might get confused ;)- never seen a collie with such long ears though! :005:
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I'm quite lucky here then, most people know she is a cocker but ask where all her coat is ;) I then explain she's a worker and most say they didn't know there were different types ::)
On Tues as I got to the start of the hill walk, 2 working cockers came running down, I was making a fuss over them when the owner appeared. Fern was out of sight but Jock was with me. ' what lovely cockers you have, how old are they?' I asked She stood and looked at me shocked, so I looked again at the dogs thinking I haven't got it wrong what's the matter with her :huh:
She said' You're the first person I've met that know they are cockers and not asked what breed they are or jumped in with the wrong breed' at that moment Fern decided to show her self and she burst out laughing and said'Ah so you also have a working cocker' We spoke for about half an hour in the end ;)
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i wish there were other working cocker owners here.it would be great for my two to have some same company. paddy tends to want other dogs to chase him,problem is he outruns them all and of course his stamina is much better than most of the other doggie friends round here.
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paddy tends to want other dogs to chase him,problem is he outruns them all and of course his stamina is much better than most of the other doggie friends round here.
:o Lyn this is sssooooo Billy too. He steals other dogs Balls so they will chase him ph34r, he'd let them chase him for hours if they could keep up. Don't know where he gets his energy from :D
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this is Sonny, hes a 5 month old springer who often gets mistaken for a working cocker(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/mkbas/DSCF1784.jpg)
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this is Sonny, hes a 5 month old springer who often gets mistaken for a working cocker(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/mkbas/DSCF1784.jpg)
He is lovely :luv: I think I may have made the mistake as well ::) I have to say that for a town, Gosport has it's fair share of working cockers! I was amazed one day earlier in the year when I bumped into 3 workers (different owners) all the same colour as Ben!
The average person though still doesn't know what breed he is ;)
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People ALWAYS think that Alfie is a springer, I think it's because he's quite big and sturdy. When I say that he's a working cocker I invariably get a puzzled look and asked 'so what does he do?' or they think that I mean that he's a 'normal' (show) cocker who happens to be used as a gundog ::) ::)
There's a little kid up the road from us who is convinced he's a dalmatian though because of his spotty legs and sides :luv: :005:
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hmmm, Bilbo has been called an afghan cross on many occassions, but normally its a flatcoat cross, Dobbie is just a mutt :lol: