Bitcon Troubador

[Jane S]

Think we're talking at cross purposes here Troubador passed on to the big kennel in the sky several years ago now (he was a good age though).

[Vivienne]

That dog definately had a bike! I was reading the mail (as a newbie) and went home to check Whistlers pedigree and yep Bitcon Troubador  is his great grandad mated with Shenmore Starlet to produce Shenmore Sonnet , are the ones at the top of the pedigree sires? If so Shenmore starlet & Freshet Furbar produced Whistlers Dad Castanes Sonneteer.

Dams side Lynwater Isleman with Classicway Colinda produced Classicway moonraker at Rosbercon  mated with True Elihu toproduce his Mum who is Swallowtail Blue moon.

Is this right?

Any realtives recognise these dogs.

Viv & Whistler

[Jane S]

Not quite right We owned Shenmore Starlet and she produced Sonnet when mated to Troubador. Sonnet went to live at Castanea where she produced Castanea Sonneteer when mated to Freshet Fubar. Both Starlet and Sonnet are sadly no longer alive but they live on in their progeny

[Vivienne]

And if I can say so beautifully, they are really healthy dogs. Whistler is one of 9, 7 dogs and 2 bitches and all really lovely. I suppose their is no simplistic way of explaining how a blue roan can be an ancestor of an orange roan, c : can anyone point me to a book?
I am finding all this fascinating stuff.

Viv

[Vivienne]

Oska to has Bitcon Troubador as his Great Grandad on Dams side. So another relative here.
He also has Bitcon Moonlight, Bitcon Silver Rebel, Bitcon After Dark and Bitcon Blue Cascade also on Dams side.  That does seem alot of the same gene pool  although they are later GGG Grandparent.

Mistfall rang a bell too so looked at pedigree and Oska has Mistfall Medlar, GG Grandfather, Mistfall Mood Indigo GGG Grandmother.  Can anyone tell me what colour these dogs were please.

Thanks.
sal/Oska

Whistler also has Bitcon moonlight, silver rebel, after dark at shadowlands, blue cascade and of course troubador. then a lot of Helleborus, thunderbug, tango rapsody, teandante, twice as nice,texas ranger,thunderspark and ch okell outward bound anyone know this line?

Viv

[Mrs T]

Another website I discovered at the weekend.   It lists British Champions and Show Champions 1948-2004, including colours.

http://www.aones.com/cockers/champions.htm

You will see that Mistfall Mood Indigo was a blue roan.

Good luck with your search.

[JackieD]

Troubador was Maddy's Great, Great Grandad too  by the sounds of it perhaps about 90% of our dogs on here are related  that is one heck of a big family  just think of the Xmas card list 
He sure was one busy very gorgeous dog looking at his picture.

[Vivienne]

I bet he slept well!

Viv

[cadbury]

SH CH BITCON TROUBADOR is Baileys GRT GRT GRT grandad he as also got SH CH BITCON PACIFIC BLUE as well
BAILEY IS A CHOC ROAN ann

[debz]

So has Thomas got bitcon pacific blue and bitcon moonlight memories anyone got photo of her ?

[Boof]

ETA: Photo removed while checking permission to use

[debz]

ooh thanks very much i'm doing a photo pedigree thats great when i no who else i need i'll be asking you all thanks again 

[Jane S]

Boof, have you got permission to post that photo? Sorry to sound nit-picking but unless that's your own photo taken by you, you need permission to post it, specially if it's  taken from a website or a year book.

Thanks

[bibathediva]

hes also Bibas grt,grt  grandfather busy boy  and she has shenmore in her ped ,grandfather ,great grandma and grt grt grandma

[bibathediva]

That dog definately had a bike! I was reading the mail (as a newbie) and went home to check Whistlers pedigree and yep Bitcon Troubador  is his great grandad mated with Shenmore Starlet to produce Shenmore Sonnet , are the ones at the top of the pedigree sires? If so Shenmore starlet & Freshet Furbar produced Whistlers Dad Castanes Sonneteer.

Dams side Lynwater Isleman with Classicway Colinda produced Classicway moonraker at Rosbercon  mated with True Elihu toproduce his Mum who is Swallowtail Blue moon.

Is this right?

Any realtives recognise these dogs.


Viv & Whistler

biba also has troubador and shenmore starlet as her grt,grt grandparents,shenmore seeing stars as her grt grandma and shenmore star voyager as her grandad,and also shenmore star voyager as her grt,grt grandad ,sire side