KC registration Question?

[Maria n Dennis]

Hi , just trying to find the answer to a question ?


Im looking through my pups pedigree and on the Kc website , I cant find his gt grandad, Gt-Gt grandad or his Gt-gt grandma. I have googled them and CAN find gt gt grandma and her dad, Her Sire has a KC number under his pic , and it lists her as one of his offspring but there is no KC reg number for her?

My pup is KC registered is that possible if some of his grand-parentage isnt?

I hope the above makes sense 

Thanks in advance

[Jane S]

It's possible that not all the ancestors are KC registered eg if for example there are Irish-bred dogs in the pedigree, these would be IKC registered and not necessarily KC registered. Another example would be our US bred Cocker who has a KC number as she is now registered with the KC but none of her American relatives will have KC numbers as they are AKC registered.

[babushka]

A carry on question. I was led to believe that if the parents are not KC registered then you cannot register the litter, is this right? I'm talking British dogs

[Jane S]

That's right - the KC will not register a litter unless both parents are KC registered.

[babushka]

Hi , just trying to find the answer to a question ?


Im looking through my pups pedigree and on the Kc website , I cant find his gt grandad, Gt-Gt grandad or his Gt-gt grandma. I have googled them and CAN find gt gt grandma and her dad, Her Sire has a KC number under his pic , and it lists her as one of his offspring but there is no KC reg number for her?

My pup is KC registered is that possible if some of his grand-parentage isnt?

I hope the above makes sense 

Thanks in advance

So whats happened to this pups pedigree? if some of his relatives were not registered, how is he?

[Jane S]

It's like I explained with our American girl - she is KC registered now but many of the dogs in her pedigree are not. Same goes for an Irish bred dog - if there is one close up in Maria's pup's pedigree, then that dog could be registered but his relatives further back may not be. Maria really needs to ask her breeder though as she should know her dog's pedigrees inside out - I'm only guessing the reason why some dogs are registered and some are not in her case.

[JaspersMum]

Could the answer to the OP's question lie in where she is looking?  If it's in the health search, I was under the impression that there is no comprehensive list of ALL dogs and therefore a search back on there would give gaps, whereas the 5 generation KC certificate would be complete still and all be registered 

If the pup is KC registered and assuming not an import, many of our dogs still turn up blanks if googling the internet for previous generations, simply because there has not been reason to enter them somewhere (ie they were never a show or Trial winner, produced a champion etc etc )

[Jane S]

Could the answer to the OP's question lie in where she is looking?  If it's in the health search, I was under the impression that there is no comprehensive list of ALL dogs and therefore a search back on there would give gaps, whereas the 5 generation KC certificate would be complete still and all be registered 

Could be - didn't think of that! Maria, you need to come back and tell us what you were looking at

[Maria n Dennis]

I was looking on the health screening bit on the KC website , its his great grandad and his gg grandad that i cant find . I may have inncorrect spelling of their names  so will check with the breeder 

[JaspersMum]

I'm pretty sure that the health test search is not a complete database of all dogs registered with the Kennel Club    I've just entered a couple of entries from some of my lots ancestors and they are not there

[Emma xx]

Meg is kennel club registered and i entered her name in the name check and it said her name was available so i wouldnt believe everything it tells you! xx

[chelsea]

I'm pretty sure that the health test search is not a complete database of all dogs registered with the Kennel Club    I've just entered a couple of entries from some of my lots ancestors and they are not there

The health test search will only bring up dogs that have been DNA tested for PRA/FN and whose results have been submitted to the Kennel Club.

[LouiseH]

The health test search will only bring up dogs that have been DNA tested for PRA/FN and whose results have been submitted to the Kennel Club.

It shows all health testing results that are submitted to the KC including PRA, FN but also KC/BVA Eye Testing and Gonioscopy  The dog doesn't have to be DNA tested to show up, but it does have to have some health test results but this could be as simple as a BVA eye test - usually it will say "There are no health test results for this dog" if there aren't any.

The dog's name has to be spelt correctly for it to show up, I had this same problem with a dog who had had the addition of an affix to the end of her name so I had to order a pedigree from the KC before I realised why she wasn't showing up 

[Sharon]

I'm pretty sure that the health test search is not a complete database of all dogs registered with the Kennel Club    I've just entered a couple of entries from some of my lots ancestors and they are not there

The health test search will only bring up dogs that have been DNA tested for PRA/FN and whose results have been submitted to the Kennel Club.

Or if the pup has come from health tested parents, then the pup should show up as hereditary clear