colour not recognized by Kc

[Loes]

A recently received a copy of the breed supplement and I have a questing regarding the colours: Sometimes is said "
colour not recognized by Kc". I thought all colours were accepted in cockers.

[Helen]

here's a link to the kennel club site - some of the colours listed there I find a little odd anyway...
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/breeds/colours.aspx?id=2052

what colour were you specifically thinking of?

[Jeanette]

I think the sable roans or blue roan and sables that I've seen would go under "colour not recognised".   

[Emma xx]

here's a link to the kennel club site - some of the colours listed there I find a little odd anyway...
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/breeds/colours.aspx?id=2052

How weird! Liver and chocolate can both be registered i thought they were registered as liver but some people just called them chocolate/choc roan etc. Strange

[Loes]

I don't know the colours of the parents are not listed in the breedsupplement. I can only see the colours of the littermates.

Some other cockers are also another colour-option: "any other colour". But there is no mention of not being recognized by the Kc.

[Loes]

Jeanette: Sable, chocolate (liver) roan are listed. Sable roan is not, I can see pups that are sable with brothers and sisters who are registered as black & white or roan. Maybe these are sable-roan? 

[Jeanette]

Jeanette: Sable, chocolate (liver) roan are listed.

I know they are, I didn't mention them  



ETA you may get some breeders who can shed more light on it than me and have had experience of what colours not recognised means.   

[doughy]

When I bought Ernie the breeder had registered him as a dark sable but the kennel club wouldn`t accept it, he and his littermates had to be just `sable` dont know if this helps

[Jane S]

The KC have not included some colours/patterns in their list of acceptable colours for the breed, mainly the sable particolours and some of the "and tickeds". This was done at the request of the Cocker Breed Council and was voted on by all the member clubs of the Breed Council. For colours/patterns not on the KC list, registrations will appear as "colour not recognised by the KC"

[Loes]

Solid sable is pattern too, isn't it? I heared a rumour that (solid) sable was going to be unrecognized too, is that true? Or is it just sable-roan that is off the list?

[Jane S]

Solid sable is pattern too, isn't it? I heared a rumour that (solid) sable was going to be unrecognized too, is that true? Or is it just sable-roan that is off the list?

Just sable particolours are off the list - sables (solid) are still recognised and won't be un-recognised because too many have already been registered and some have stud book numbers now.

[Loes]

I get it. But what is stopping breeders to register roan-sable as a regular roan? I see lots of litters with sable (solid) pups and roan siblings. 

[sandie72]

Belle is sable roan in colour and as this colour is not recognised with the kennel club it is shown as sable on her certificate.

I don't mind as I think she is beautiful!!!!

[Jane S]

I get it. But what is stopping breeders to register roan-sable as a regular roan? I see lots of litters with sable (solid) pups and roan siblings. 

Nothing. You can register a puppy any colour you like as long as it's on the list.

[Loes]

I have posted this info on another forum, it seems in Germany they put the sable-roan colour as sable (solid).