Two 5 week old cocker pups put to sleep this morning

[jasper_boy]

I have just seen that two five week old cocker boys were put to sleep by their breeder this morning, because they are deaf  the others are being BEAR tested today, so am hoping that the other survive when the results are back.

The breeder has been breeding for 20 years and never had a deaf pup in the litter. She will be using the same bitch but using a different stud dog next time.

What do people think about this? Is it acceptable for a breeder to put to sleep healthy pups? Oh, she was offered rescue placement which didn't take it up.

[Cayley]

Some things don't show up till late on, we found this out the hard way when we lost two pups at 4 weeks, it was hardest thing we have had to do so I wouldn't pass judgement till I knew why they did it  .

[jasper_boy]

I completely understand what you mean and in certain circumstances I can see why the option would be chose. But these pups were just deaf, not other illnesses or conditions.

[Carolynleah]

Well I certainly wouldn't put otherwise healthy pups down - especially if they were offered rescue support - how sad. 

[ollie nathan's mum]

How very sad, what would she do if she delivered a baby with a problem I would take in a deaf pup and I'm sure other people would.

[Goggins]

If there was nothing else wrong other than deafness then I think that is very wrong and sad...why did the vet agree to do this??

I have owned boxers and some whites are prone to deafness and it used to be that breeders pts the pups at birth (if they were white) but now the majority dont and they live perfectly happy healthy lives...

  Run free at the bridge little pups...

[ebony girl]

i was once told that a breeder had put to sleep deaf puppies because she had been breeding for a long time and didnt want dogs out there with her name attached to them, as it may harm her breeding business in the future  

i am not against any animal being PTS if it has an illness which will cause it pain and suffering but to PTS because they are deaf seem cruel to me, and has left me in tears

[LottieLu]

i was once told that a breeder had put to sleep deaf puppies because she had been breeding for a long time and didnt want dogs out there with her name attached to them, as it may harm her breeding business in the future  

i am not against any animal being PTS if it has an illness which will cause it pain and suffering but to PTS because they are deaf seem cruel to me, and has left me in tears

Without knowing the details of the pups in the OP I don't feel qualified to comment.  However, if a breeder has a pup or pups that, for whatever reason, that breeder doesn't want their name attached to, isn't it possible to let the pups go to good homes without registering them with the breeders name?

[LynneB]

i was once told that a breeder had put to sleep deaf puppies because she had been breeding for a long time and didnt want dogs out there with her name attached to them, as it may harm her breeding business in the future  

i am not against any animal being PTS if it has an illness which will cause it pain and suffering but to PTS because they are deaf seem cruel to me, and has left me in tears

Without knowing the details of the pups in the OP I don't feel qualified to comment.  However, if a breeder has a pup or pups that, for whatever reason, that breeder doesn't want their name attached to, isn't it possible to let the pups go to good homes without registering them with the breeders name?

They can be sold without KC registration......... "no papers"

[LottieLu]

i was once told that a breeder had put to sleep deaf puppies because she had been breeding for a long time and didnt want dogs out there with her name attached to them, as it may harm her breeding business in the future  

i am not against any animal being PTS if it has an illness which will cause it pain and suffering but to PTS because they are deaf seem cruel to me, and has left me in tears

Without knowing the details of the pups in the OP I don't feel qualified to comment.  However, if a breeder has a pup or pups that, for whatever reason, that breeder doesn't want their name attached to, isn't it possible to let the pups go to good homes without registering them with the breeders name?

They can be sold without KC registration......... "no papers"

Thanks Lynne. I was going to say 'phew' for all those puppies who have that potential route to happiness in those circumstances. But then thought of possible drawbacks that could arise from breeder non-registration such as too many/frequent litters from a bitch by an unscrupulous breeder and therefore one whole litter sold without KC registration etc.

Apologies to OP, I didn't want to hijack your post.

[ebony girl]

i was once told that a breeder had put to sleep deaf puppies because she had been breeding for a long time and didnt want dogs out there with her name attached to them, as it may harm her breeding business in the future 

i am not against any animal being PTS if it has an illness which will cause it pain and suffering but to PTS because they are deaf seem cruel to me, and has left me in tears

Without knowing the details of the pups in the OP I don't feel qualified to comment.  However, if a breeder has a pup or pups that, for whatever reason, that breeder doesn't want their name attached to, isn't it possible to let the pups go to good homes without registering them with the breeders name?

They can be sold without KC registration......... "no papers"

Thanks Lynne. I was going to say 'phew' for all those puppies who have that potential route to happiness in those circumstances. But then thought of possible drawbacks that could arise from breeder non-registration such as too many/frequent litters from a bitch by an unscrupulous breeder and therefore one whole litter sold without KC registration etc.

Apologies to OP, I didn't want to hijack your post.

i too thought about them being sold un-registered, but as i said it was just something i heard and therefore dont have the full details.....my only thoughts are that this was a well known breeder who although the pups wouldnt be registered perhaps people would still associate them with her kennel!!!....

whatever way you look at it, these pups should never have been PTS and the bitch should never be used again.

sorry too for hijacking the OP

[Joyce]

This is absolutely disgusting having pups PTS because they are deaf, so the breeder keeps her good name, she should now be named and shamed for what she has done, I show and breed and I don't care who she is, I hope it's not somebody I know and I am in the show ring with or even been judge. 

[ebony girl]

i totally agree but as i have heard this second hand, it would not be fair to name and shame incase i dont have all the correct details,....but i really hope karma comes back and bites them on the a**e really hard!!

[LottieLu]

This is absolutely disgusting having pups PTS because they are deaf, so the breeder keeps her good name, she should now be named and shamed for what she has done, I show and breed and I don't care who she is, I hope it's not somebody I know and I am in the show ring with or even been judge. 

Personally I don't think a forum is the place to name and shame. We are not judge and jury and besides, to make any judgement you need to sure of your facts, beyond doubt. 

[penguins87]

I have just seen that two five week old cocker boys were put to sleep by their breeder this morning, because they are deaf   the others are being BEAR tested today, so am hoping that the other survive when the results are back.

The breeder has been breeding for 20 years and never had a deaf pup in the litter. She will be using the same bitch but using a different stud dog next time.

What do people think about this? Is it acceptable for a breeder to put to sleep healthy pups? Oh, she was offered rescue placement which didn't take it up.

Was this an article or a news story you have ' seen ' ?

I Find it very upsetting but unfortunately not surprising