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Cocker Activities => Showing => Topic started by: Charleigh on March 06, 2013, 12:18:20 AM
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So we have our first show at the end of march and I wanted to ask some questions as I just want to double check some things
I have this lead http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=300868603956&index=11&nav=SEARCH&nid=60024115359 I was advised just to get a cheapy one to start off with then get a nicer one from a show so I can try them on. This lead is fine isn't it?
Is it best to have a lead similar to their coat colour? Teddy is orange roan and this was the closest I saw.
When I stack her and when shes on the table, the lead should be loosened so they can see her neck? Then tightened when I walk her?
What should I do to prepare her coat for the show? I was thinking a wash in just water the night before then a good brush and comb, then just a touch up on the day. She'll be 6 months for her show, should I have had her coat cut by then or not?
Can I clean her teeth before the show? Or is this against the rules?
How long do shows usually last?
Any general advice would be great, it's our first ever show so I don't know what to expect
Thanks :)
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Hi Charleigh,
We also show an orange roan called Henry :luv: and we have a show lead just like the one you have linked, it suits us and we are happy with it! :lol2:
As regarding when you stack Teddy, you can loosen the lead if you like, were new to the show world too and are still learning ourselves but i have seen people who loosen and people who don't so i guess do what you feel comfortable with.
The night before a show we always give Henry a bath, shampoo & Condition, then towel dry and hairdry brushing thoroughly the way that the coat should fall naturally. This can take some time, but it's so worth it ;)
As Teddy is only six months old, the coat might not be ready to be handstipped, have you done any research into Handstripping etc? Anyways for your first show you will most likely be against other puppies and their coats will all be at different stages so don't worry too much
You can clean Teddy teeth before the show no problems.
As for the timescale... well alot depends on when your class is and how many dogs are in each class? Are you going to an open show?
We found it all a bit intimidating to start with and we are still abit intimidated to be honest we have only done 4 shows so like i said we are learning the ropes too.
Hopefully someone with more experience might be able to give you a bit more advise or if i can help you anymore i will, you may have to wait a few days for more advise as I'm sure that all the lovely cocker people up and down the country that have all the answers are preparing for crufts. If you are and your reading this good luck and please give Charleigh some advise when you can?
Hope that's helped you Charleigh, like i say if you need anymore advise i'll do my best. ;)
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He sounds lovely, out of interest how orange is he? Teddy is very orange.
I don't think it is quite ready yet, I've tried to pull little bits out myself and maybe one hair will come out, so I don't think she's ready, she's only 5 1/2 months ATM so I might need to wait a bit!
Tbh she has a really smooth coat apart from her top knot! I always brush it down after a bath and it stays then someone comes along and ruffles it up so she has a Mohican! It does look cute though haha.
It's quite hard getting her to stay in a stand, our ringcraft teacher laughs because she has a really nice stand with her legs usually in the right places but then she'll sit down or turn around or something, bless her :)
I was thinking about perhaps getting her a wash and blow dry at a groomers the day before but I'm not decided yet. Do you use a grooming table? I'm hoping to get one as she stands lovely on the one at our ringcraft class but when I tried with the ironing board and the kitchen side she just jumped onto my shoulders so I don't think they were sturdy enough for her. So I'm hoping to get one for her.
Yeah it's an open show, thank you for all your advice you've been so helpful :)
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I have this leader
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Premium-Round-Leather-Dog-Show-Slide-Lead-Various-Colours-/130852436402?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Dogs&var=&hash=item1e7769b9b2 (mine is 5mm and 48" - when I got it, I told the lady I had no idea what I was looking for - so she advised that, and I think it's just right) - it was stiff when it arrived, but it has softened really nicely.
This is the grooming table I have http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Portable-Mobile-Dog-or-Cat-Grooming-Table-/261088502356?pt=UK_Pet_Supplies_Dogs&hash=item3cca166254 - one of my best purchases.
Charlie is 19months and gets bored doing the "stand", at home he's perfect...but in public >:D :005:.
Just when you go to your first show, don't expect anything, just go through the motions, if she does it right, or gets placed then that is brilliant, but take it as 'real life practice' - Charlie's first show wasn't very good - I think the noise was a bit over whelming for him (there was an irish water spaniel going off it, in it's cage); however I enjoyed the experience and met some lovely people.
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Hi we too are getting ready for our first show. It's lovely to read about people at the same stage. We did take our 5 month old puppy for a hand strip, but they only did a little just to get her used to the idea. I don't think I have the right lead, but I was hoping some may be on sale there for our later shows. My question is do I need a cage to keep Myrtle in while she's not showing, I've heard different things. Our cage is very old and rusty should I get a new one? And is it best to keep breakfast light that morning for her? Excited but very nervous of doing the wrong thing!! ph34r
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Are you entered at an Open or Championship show? Most Champ shows are benched and therefore a cage on the bench gives a safe place for your puppy to sit and rest.
Open shows can be very busy and personally, I like to have a crate to create our space again where puppy can get away from it all and you can be hands free to have a drink and sort yourself out too. I wouldn't want to leave them out in the car for example but you could leave them in the crate and there is usually someone about who's willing to keep an eye on your dog whilst you nip to the loo.
If you don't know whether you are going to carry on with showing, maybe get a wire brush on the crate and tidy it up and throw a blanket over it a) because it'll be more cosy for pup and b) you don't have to think anyone is looking at your crate! Showing can be very costly so I would wait and see what is going to work for you before you start spending a fortune.
As to feeding, our pup doesn't travel too well so we are taking her breakfast with us and feeding when we get to the show. It depends on what time you have to leave home but with the older boy, I've always tried to be up and feed an hour before travelling. You might not want to do that if you have a 5am start though!
If you are likely to be at the show all day and you are feeding midday still, you might want to take something for them to eat during the day too.
Some shows have leads and bits and pieces for sale but not all of them and I've often found that the stands don't always have the sliding leads that we use on the cockers. Fellow exhibitors are very helpful though. If you can set up close to someone in the same breed, there may be someone willing to loan you a lead if the one you have is not working for you. Is there someone at ringcraft you can ask though?
Good luck in your first shows, most importantly, have fun and enjoy your day, whatever the judge may think, you take the best dog home ;)
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Thank you so much that's fantastic advice. Fortunately it's very close as we have some travel issues too. (As in which end first) Ooooops :o
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Hopefully you will find other cocker exhibitors at the show who will guide you- dont be shy about asking questions as we all started off once at our very first shows!! Which show are you going to?
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I dont have a crate; as Charlie doesn't really like them; he's happier to sit on my knee and look around (however, we usually try and find a quiet spot). I'd also advise, unless you have an early class; to take chairs with you (some places have chairs, most dont).
I feed Charlie before I go, as there would be no chance of getting him to eat at a show (he's too nosey).
For your first show, have a few walks around the ring first; let the pup sniff all the nice distracting smells now, so that it's not done during your actual bit.
I think I'd also be inclined to get a cover for your crate (same reasons as Jaspersmum said).
Of the shows I've been to; only 1 has had leads for sale (ok I haven't been to loads).
I have this lead
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xleather+show+lead+dog&_nkw=leather+show+lead+dog&_sacat=0&_from=R40 but other people use different styles.
If possible I'd try and take your pup along to a show before her first show, so she can experience the noise/atmosphere first.
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Thank you again, that's some good advice. We're off to the Cockers open show in Cricklade this weekend. Really just to get the feel of it, Myrtle seems to be suffering from hayfever so we're not looking our best :005:
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Thank you again, that's some good advice. We're off to the Cockers open show in Cricklade this weekend. Really just to get the feel of it, Myrtle seems to be suffering from hayfever so we're not looking our best :005:
where are your manners? we need photos :luv: :005:. It'll be a good experience for you both :)
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We will see you at Cricklade ;) Taking both the blacks and since we are on committee, will no doubt be flitting around
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Oh fantastic, we'll be the terrified ones in the corner :lol2: I have so so many photos but can't seem to work out photobucket yet :016:
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http://s1350.photobucket.com/albums/p765/jane1320/?action=view¤t=utf-8BSU1BRzAwNDYuanBn_zps03c9c479.jpg
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:luv: :luv:
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We had a wonderful time at our first show, everyone was so kind and helpful. We were made to feel really welcome. We realised we have an awful lot to learn, but we looking forward to it! We were only down for the puppy walk but Myrtle manage to pretty much belly surf her way around, and I wasn't much help, having her collar in the wrong position!! Oooops. We were all absolutely exhausted after, but we're to practice some more!!! Thank you all for the advice x :D
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Sorry, we really didn't get much chance to say hello between getting both dogs into the ring and getting back into the kitchen! You couldn't start off at a much friendlier show than WofE. I think you were chatting to Bev and no doubt had chance to compare Myrtle and Misha :luv: Unfortunately I didn't have a camera with me so no photos of the day!
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Aww we were at this show with my black boy 'Molkara Druid's Quest at Chamerl' Dru, but didn't see this post first or would have said hello. I think I might have seen you in passing. This is always a lovely friendly show and best way to learn is to go along to shows such as these and get a feel for it. I learnt by many mistakes we all start somewhere. ;) Glad you had a good day. :)
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Thank you both, we did have such a lovely day. Wish now I'd only put our names down for puppy walks for our next few shows, I hadn't realised how much the whole atmosphere would make Myrtle react! She's so shy!! Both my husband and I fell in love with the solid blacks on show, he's very tempted, maybe able to twist his arm in an addition to the family!!! We're looking forward to our next show just searching for an experienced groomer :)
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Aww She's only a baby still. Don't overdo it and the more lovely experiences she has the better. Shows like WoE are perfect for her. Smaller, so as not to overwhelm and always so very friendly. They are all different too. One of mine is more outgoing than the other. Do you have a Ringcraft class close to you as this will get you both used to the atmosphere and what you need to do at shows. Great way to start out. Also companion shows are good for practice. Lots of fun. No real pressure and usually very friendly. You can have a go at pedigree classes and the fun ones like waggiest tail etc to ring the changes for her. Lots of luck to you and maybe we'll see you at a show again soon. :)
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Hi :blink:
I remember seeing your baby at West of England ....it really is a lovely show and its where I started showing a couple of years ago ...we now have a blue roan and a solid black so I can understand your love of the blacks :luv:
Whens your next show ?
Jo
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Hi :blink:
I remember seeing your baby at West of England ....it really is a lovely show and its where I started showing a couple of years ago ...we now have a blue roan and a solid black so I can understand your love of the blacks :luv:
Whens your next show ?
Jo
Hey we started at this one too Jo. ;) Always been a favourite of mine!! :D
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We are booked in for the three counties show next weekend, but I booked this before I realised how big it was and how Myrtle would respond, I would love to go but think maybe we should just watch this time. We start ringcraft in Stonehouse this week so hopefully we'll get more of an understanding for everything we need too be doing! We're doing obedience in Nailsworth too, just need to get some grooming sorted!!! :005: xx
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We are booked in for the three counties show next weekend, but I booked this before I realised how big it was and how Myrtle would respond, I would love to go but think maybe we should just watch this time. We start ringcraft in Stonehouse this week so hopefully we'll get more of an understanding for everything we need too be doing! We're doing obedience in Nailsworth too, just need to get some grooming sorted!!! :005: xx
Hope it's not the Three Counties as that was a few weeks ago :005: Is it the Cocker Club show at the Three County Showground? It might be BIG, but it's a great place to see lots of beautiful dogs from here and overseas!
We'll see you there with our two!