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Title: i don't understand some people
Post by: Kim on March 19, 2007, 07:24:27 PM
I have just taken a phone call, that has left me feeling very upset.
I was told that the temperament of my lovely boy Dennis has been called into question.
Can I just say here & now that I would trust this boy with any other dog in the world, he has no prejudices, against any dog, male or female - those that have stood next to me & Dennis in the ring, can surely testify to that! I don't have to keep him away from other boys or any bitch.
A message to those people, that have nothing better to do than to run people down . . . . . .
I have been successful with Dennis, but I'm NOT looking for stud work, so no need to try to put people off using him, if that is what they are trying to do.
No doubt many successful people experience the same treatment - all I can say to those that spread this rubbish, is "Grow up & get a life!"
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: *Jay* on March 19, 2007, 07:31:16 PM
Sorry to hear that Kim  :huh:  Karma will come back and bite them on the bum so keep your chin up
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: sarah25 on March 19, 2007, 07:33:32 PM
>:D Some people talk a load of rubbish  >:D
You have nothing to worry about Kim.
There only Jealous

x
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Helen on March 19, 2007, 07:37:30 PM
i'm sorry that people are like that Kim - it is really gutting to hear hurtful rumours and nasty gossip like that, particularly when it is completely untrue.

hold your head up high -  jealousy is a very ugly emotion and as Gill says, karma will win out in the end ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Penel on March 19, 2007, 07:38:45 PM
Unfortunately any world involving competition will always involve bitchiness and backstabbing.  It's sometimes surprising though, people who you thought were friends turn out not to be  >:(
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Harriet on March 19, 2007, 07:38:53 PM
>:D Some people talk a load of rubbish  >:D
You have nothing to worry about Kim.
There only Jealous

x

I totally agree with Sarah. I went to Windsor last year and I was watching some of the blacks and I think I saw Dennis there and he moved beautifully  :luv: and his temperament was sound when the judge went over him. He is a credit to you & Emily.
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Kim on March 19, 2007, 07:40:24 PM
thanks guys, but I guess that is y it hurts, because it is untrue!
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Pammy on March 19, 2007, 07:42:59 PM
Chin up Kim - they're not worth the anguish ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: *-Nikki-* on March 19, 2007, 07:43:30 PM
Sorry to hear that Kim  :huh:  Karma will come back and bite them on the bum so keep your chin up
Totally, What goes around comes around! Jealousy is an awful thing >:D !
Nik x
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Brimbeck(Dyllan) on March 19, 2007, 07:53:27 PM
I heard nothing but good things about the temperaments of all your dogs
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Cockerlove on March 19, 2007, 08:06:23 PM
Madness!!

I don't even have a cocker (yet) but I have also heard nothing but glowing reports about all of your dogs.

It's so uncalled for and irritating when people lie in attempt to belittle people.  >:D 

Forget them, they aren't even worth thinking about.  You obviously have a big honest fanclub anyway.  :blink:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Sheryl on March 19, 2007, 08:10:31 PM
I am not into the world of competition or anything so I can only imagine how angry you are.  I too believe that what goes around comes around, it is just that sometimes it isn't quick enough!! 
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Tasha on March 19, 2007, 08:20:02 PM
sticks and stones... take it as a compliment that someone out there feels threatened enough to be so mean... ::) ::)


Chin up chook :D
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Luvly on March 19, 2007, 08:32:56 PM
 :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: suzysu on March 19, 2007, 08:34:11 PM
aww I am so sorry to hear that Kim   :'(...as others have said jealousy is probably at the bottom of it ..I understand how upsetting this must have been for you, but  the people that matter to you, and are genuine, know that what has been said is untrue  (((HUG))) x
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Jan/Billy on March 19, 2007, 08:44:33 PM
Aw Kim sorry to hear this  :'(   It's plain nasty  jealousy, I agree with you totally that these people should just grow up  ::) ::)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Emily on March 19, 2007, 08:49:30 PM
Dont worry mum, we know what hes like and how loving and gentle he is, thats all that matters, peoples lifes must be complete pants if all they can talk about is FALSE comments about our dogs, I agree with everyone else, Jealously isn't even the word >:D

Does this really look like a bad tempered dog to you?

(http://images-040.cdn.piczo.com/p1/img/i226654839_33059.jpg) (http://images-040.cdn.piczo.com/p1/img/i226662830_92470.jpg) (http://images-040.cdn.piczo.com/p1/img/i226665814_64699.jpg)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Nicola on March 19, 2007, 08:53:58 PM
Sorry to hear this Kim but they're clearly jealous and anyone with any sense would realise what a lovely dog Dennis is rather than listening to idle gossip anyway  ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: silkstocking on March 19, 2007, 08:56:47 PM
Bloody hell :o have only just seen this...............what is with people ::)

Big fat JEALOUS is what they are ;)  >:(

Can totally see why you are upset, I'd be hunting said person down with a candlestick.............. THWACK!!!! :005: Then they wouldn't spread nasty things about would they :lol: xxxxxxx

Gorgeous piccies by the way Emily ;)

Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Jan/Billy on March 19, 2007, 08:59:38 PM
I'd be hunting said person down with a candlestick THWACK!!!! :005: Then they wouldn't spread nasty things about would they :lol: xxxxxxx

 :lol: :lol: Say what you think Lisa, don't hold back now  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Jan/Billy on March 19, 2007, 09:00:50 PM
Absolutely gorgeous boy  :luv: :luv: stunning  :luv:

At least it's only you and not Dennis that's heard these nasty rumours, he's protected from it all  :D
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Sheryl on March 19, 2007, 09:02:38 PM
He looks a great big soft cuddle monster :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: suzysu on March 19, 2007, 09:05:01 PM
awww what a sweetheart  :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Nicola on March 19, 2007, 09:07:10 PM
I'd be hunting said person down with a candlestick THWACK!!!! :005: Then they wouldn't spread nasty things about would they :lol: xxxxxxx

 :lol: :lol: Say what you think Lisa, don't hold back now  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

See now if there's a crime committed we'll all know that it was Lisa in the grooming parlour with a candlestick  :005:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Pammy on March 19, 2007, 09:08:07 PM
oooh - now those pics - sorry but that's one mean wicked lookinh doggy you've got there  :005: :005:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Jan/Billy on March 19, 2007, 09:08:47 PM
I'd be hunting said person down with a candlestick THWACK!!!! :005: Then they wouldn't spread nasty things about would they :lol: xxxxxxx

 :lol: :lol: Say what you think Lisa, don't hold back now  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

See now if there's a crime committed we'll all know that it was Lisa in the grooming parlour with a candlestick  :005:

 :lol: :lol:

Kim, I think you should send Lisa in to sort them all out !!!  ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: silkstocking on March 19, 2007, 09:09:06 PM
I'd be hunting said person down with a candlestick THWACK!!!! :005: Then they wouldn't spread nasty things about would they :lol: xxxxxxx

 :lol: :lol: Say what you think Lisa, don't hold back now  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

LOL note to everyone DON'T MESS WITH ME!! :005: :005:

But honestly, there is no worse attribute in personality, than being a sh!t stirer >:( and thats all this person has done, because as Emily put it, their life is pants :005: :005:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: silkstocking on March 19, 2007, 09:10:40 PM
I'd be hunting said person down with a candlestick THWACK!!!! :005: Then they wouldn't spread nasty things about would they :lol: xxxxxxx

 :lol: :lol: Say what you think Lisa, don't hold back now  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

See now if there's a crime committed we'll all know that it was Lisa in the grooming parlour with a candlestick  :005:

LMAO :005: :005: Hmmm maybe my grooming scissors would be better, I bet you could do damage with a slicker as well :005: :005: :005:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Brimbeck(Dyllan) on March 19, 2007, 09:10:59 PM
He looks like a beautiful, intelligent, handsome, charming, and gorgeous black (my favourite colour) lovely cocker boy.  :luv: :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: ali on March 19, 2007, 09:11:05 PM
oooh - now those pics - sorry but that's one mean wicked lookinh doggy you've got there  :005: :005:

cor yeah, really fierce!  ph34r

 :005:

he looks like a real sweetie. :luv: anyone who knows him will judge him accordingly and anyone who thinks they know his temperment but doesn't is just not worth the heart-ache. though i can imagine how hurtful and defensive you must feel about it- i'd be quick to jump to barkley's defence if he was being judged unfairly.  >:(
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Luvly on March 19, 2007, 09:20:13 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Jane S on March 19, 2007, 10:12:44 PM
You know you've made it when people start spreading nasty rumours about your dogs ;) It can get you down but try to remember it's only a small number of people in the show world who are like this but unfortunately they tend to have very big mouths (to compensate for their very small brains perhaps :lol:) Anybody who achieves success in dog showing or any other other field will at one time or another be the victim of this kind of thing (we certainly have been) but you've just got to try to rise above it and not give these people the satisfaction of knowing they've upset you - easier to say than do I know ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: spanielcrazy on March 19, 2007, 10:31:42 PM
Who dares to speak badly about my dog-crush, Dennis??!!  >:D

I'll fly over there right away and take care of them (and take Dennis away from all those mean people!)  :005:



LMAO :005: :005: Hmmm maybe my grooming scissors would be better, I bet you could do damage with a slicker as well :005: :005: :005:

forget that, I'm bringing my clippers! :lol:

Chin up, like everyone says it's jealousy. The thing about dog shows is that they can turn into cat shows awfully quick! Meowww!  :005:

from: Dennis' #1 fan in the US
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Elisa on March 19, 2007, 10:35:34 PM
Rise above it.  What goes around, comes around  ;)

Dennis is beautiful  :luv: :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on March 19, 2007, 10:38:41 PM
Kim,

I think your gang are lovely :D

Michelle
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Tori on March 19, 2007, 10:43:10 PM
Aw Kim....Its amazing the BS that people will spread >:(  At the end of the day it will be only themselves that will end up with egg on their faces!  You and those who have taken the time to get to know and yours will know that this is complete rubbish!
Like Jane says it is a sure sign of success for people to be like that, do you rememeber the rubbish that Trica Bentley had to put up with after Cambri's Crufts BIS.

Chin up you guys your so much better than those small minds ;)


Tori x


PS - Lisa......remind me never to get on the wrong side of you!  Girl you are scary!!!!!!!!  Candlestick, scissor AND Slicker brush....whooh..... ph34r
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: CraftySam on March 19, 2007, 10:48:03 PM
People really can be very nasty.  >:(  These people are not worth wasting breath on but unfortunately thats far easier said than done when they spread untruths about a dog you, and everyone else, knows is fantastic.

He's a gorgous, gorgeous boy  :luv: and they are very jealous  >:(
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: sundune on March 19, 2007, 10:58:10 PM
I have just taken a phone call, that has left me feeling very upset.
I was told that the temperament of my lovely boy Dennis has been called into question.
Can I just say here & now that I would trust this boy with any other dog in the world, he has no prejudices, against any dog, male or female - those that have stood next to me & Dennis in the ring, can surely testify to that! I don't have to keep him away from other boys or any bitch.
A message to those people, that have nothing better to do than to run people down . . . . . .
I have been successful with Dennis, but I'm NOT looking for stud work, so no need to try to put people off using him, if that is what they are trying to do.
No doubt many successful people experience the same treatment - all I can say to those that spread this rubbish, is "Grow up & get a life!"
I am so sorry to hear that Kim as i met Dennis chilling out at the champ show in Cullompton. He IS a lovely boy and is more than happy to have a nutty woman like me give him a cuddle and a fussing. His temperment should never be questioned, i couldn't see how it could be.
When i was showing cats a lovely old lady who showed Persians said to me "you know when your getting to the top the backstabbing gets more elaberate and frequent, so take it as a compliment they're only jealous!"
So maybe that piece of knowledge can give you a lift??? It did me.
Take care
Peta
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Michele on March 19, 2007, 10:58:31 PM
You & your true friends know the truth Kim, that's all you need :bigarmhug:


Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Helen on March 19, 2007, 11:11:34 PM
that second photo of him....


just awwwwwwwwwwwww  :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv: :luv:

what a poppet
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: happydog on March 19, 2007, 11:23:21 PM
I think they must have got him confused with another dog altogether  :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Michele on March 19, 2007, 11:25:21 PM
I think they must have got him confused with another dog altogether  :luv:

Yes, one of theirs  :005:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: daftcockers on March 19, 2007, 11:30:35 PM
Kim take no notice they obviously have a very sad little life to lead
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: wendy on March 20, 2007, 06:48:18 AM
I am absolutely gob smacked Kim,  We have shared space at many a show and I know Dennis and your other dogs are about as lay back as they come. 

Wendy and David
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: chelsea on March 20, 2007, 07:10:17 AM
Sorry to hear this Kim. But you know the truth so just rise above it! ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: inga on March 20, 2007, 08:42:42 AM
Hi Kim,
I know how hurtful it can be as many years ago we were doing very well with a young dog and because we kept beating a certain big breeder the rumours started. First it was that he had a bad mouth and then the really sick one was that he had died and at Birmingham Champ show people were coming up to us and saying how sorry they were that we had lost him, I was in the ring at the time with him. This dog got over 50 B.O.B. at open shows  and was very consistant at champ shows,so not bad for a dog that was supposed to have a bad mouth and also dead.
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Gilly on March 20, 2007, 12:10:34 PM
As everyone has said...rise above it, you know the truth and that's all that counts  ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: cazza on March 20, 2007, 12:21:57 PM

Rise above it.  What goes around, comes around  ;)

Dennis is  :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: *Theresa* on March 20, 2007, 12:27:17 PM
Have to admit I looked at the photos and the first thing I thought was that tongue looked like it could give a pretty fierce lick when called into action. Tail looked a tad dangerous too and maybe they are scared when its waggin 19 to the dozen and its messing their hair up  :005:.

Take no notice of them, Ive never met him but there are plenty of posts on here from people who have so Im convinced you got yourself one big soft pooch.  :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Mary on March 20, 2007, 12:28:21 PM
In all walks of life success of another person can bring out the nasty side in people less successful.  Sad but true.  As others have said, rise above it and continue to  be proud of your dogs :shades: That will rub them up the wrong way even more :005:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Black Angel's on March 20, 2007, 02:26:29 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this..

But,this is proof that You have high quality dogs! people are so jealous when someone is successful,some of them are just devils in human skin,I hate that!

Keep up the good work..

Iva
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Dessie on March 20, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
Kim

This will just highlight who your real friends are  ;)

Rise above it like the others have said ... they are jealous of your dogs and how successful you are with them ... don't give them the satisfaction that they have won !!!  Get out there and keep on winning !!!!

Take care {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Dessie
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Magic Star on March 20, 2007, 03:56:37 PM
I agree with the others Kim, rise above it, I wouldn't even waste your time worrying about it ;)
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: Kim on March 20, 2007, 04:02:55 PM
Many, Many thanks to you all & especially to those that know Dennis  :luv:
I have been inundated with pm's, emails & texts of support. It seems that there are so many people that are finding themselves victims of this kind of behaviour.
You are all right, I need to rise above it all, never lower myself to their level.
I have had this before & after a while they do get to you - I have considered giving it all up, on occasion, but then they would just be beating me & I'm no quitter (Aries) ;)
If it is because I'm winning with my dogs, then tough! It is, after all, the judges that put us up!
Us being myself & Emily & the dogs & can I just say that woe betide ANYONE that tries to intimidate Emily  >:D

My good friend, Louise (loobyloo) put this on another forum -

Having had Dennis stay with me for a couple of months I can safely say that his temperament is unquestionably SOUND. He fitted into to our house and mixed with ALL our dogs (both male and female) without a cross word or spat. He tolerated being brushed, bathed, and fed by me and my family and living in a busy house.He had to put up with 2 young boys and if that isn't a testimony to a dog then what is !!!!!
I would trust that dog in any situation, he is a credit to our breed.
I would like to say to people out there " test drive before you criticize" have the dog at your house and see how he behaves then you are entilted to pass judgement.
May I also add that Frankie and Crystal displayed the same good manners

Louise looked after my dogs  last year, whilst I was moving.

thanks again guys.
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: *jean* on March 20, 2007, 04:07:11 PM
I agree with all the above but I understand you just cant help feeling hurt that someone can be so horrible about you.. your dog or perhaps even your kids... the list goes on. I think its just the darker side of human nature. Who telephoned you and what did they have to gain by passing on such a silly story? some people revel in anothers unhappiness..they are more to be pitied than scorned.
 Personally if I hear any rubbish I put it where it belongs.. into the dusbin part of my brain. I wont glorify it by passing it on where it may grow arms and legs .
rise above it and take a good look at your dennis. Is it bothereing him ? no? then dont let it bother you cos if it does ,the gossiping harpies have scored. he IS a handsome boy! :luv:
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: sportsmonki on March 21, 2007, 10:13:15 AM
Kim, I dont know Dennis (only seen him from a distance a couple of times...and I didnt see anything that would indicate to me his temperament wasnt sound  :blink: ).  I have noticed other dogs (none from COL) around both show and obedience rings than I prefer to keep my dogs (and on some occassions...myself) away from.  I guess what I am trying to say is that hopefully people will judge for themselves, and make up their own opinion about dogs...rather than believing all the gossip that flies around. 

I hope for you that eventually this rumour will fade away when enough people realise that there is no evidence to support it  :blink: . 
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: sueneil on March 21, 2007, 04:58:04 PM
Showing brings out the best and the worst in some folk, after many years in the showing game i know what it feels like! You just have to be aware that most folk know the truth about your dogs!We would all give up if we gave into those people who rubbish our dogs.
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: *+*Chlo*+* on March 21, 2007, 08:12:11 PM
Kim you no the truth and thats all that matters  :D dont let it get to you  ;) x
Title: Re: i don't understand some people
Post by: KellyS on March 22, 2007, 11:03:29 AM
Uhhh! I have just caught up with this thread... OMG what is wrong with some people??? >:D

You need such a thick skin in this game, I have had similar upsetting experiences in the past.....Sorry Kim and Emily to hear about this I've seen your dogs loads of times and they have always been very gentle and well mannered. Keep ur Chins up girls :D