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Title: Junior Handling
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on February 25, 2004, 01:33:26 PM
Since my family and I attended the Lancashire cocker show on Saturday, my daughter has turned into a showing monster :twisted:

She now plays showing in the hall with Billy as the Model (he is quite keen as she carries a bag of treats with her)

However if this is something that she would like to get into, and given that cocker 2 is still just a twinkle in its daddies eye :wink: , and Billy is not really show material  :lol: (sheep like) I was wondering if there would be any books that I could buy her that may hold her interest until we can start ringcraft with number 2 . All the books I have seen are either aimed at adults or are general dog books?

I am off to search amazon again but if anybody has any tips let me know.

Michelle                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Colin on February 25, 2004, 01:48:15 PM
Even though you might not consider Billy to be show material you could still take him along to ringcraft. It would probably be good fun for both him and your daughter. She would then learn the basics in time for Cocker number 2's arrival on the scene. Having some prior knowledge would prove useful for then handling a wayward pup. :D I took Misty  to a few classes and the fact I'd never done it before combined with her being young and lively made it quite difficult at first. There were a few kids there and they seemed to be having a whale of a time.                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Dessie on February 25, 2004, 01:58:00 PM
Hi Michelle

I agree totally with what Colin has said it wouldn't do your daughter any harm to take Billy to ringcraft classes.  Tracey's daughter Chelsea is a dab hand at handling so I'm sure they will be able to give you details of what books are available if any.  

HTH                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Anita on February 25, 2004, 02:02:47 PM
ohhhhh that might be fun. Whats the best way of finding a class in my area? I think the people who do the fly ball might know of some but if anyone has other contacts that would be useful.

Thanks                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Jane S on February 25, 2004, 03:07:54 PM
Budding Junior Handlers might be interested in joining The Young Kennel Club - full details on the KC website at www.the-kennel-club.org.uk (http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk)(just click on the pink YKC icon)

I think Jacqui Hurley has written a book on Junior Handling (I've seen it advertised in the dog press) but I'm sure Tracey will be along later with some more recommendations :)

PS Our Dogs have some JH books on their website at http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/acatalog/Main_Men...Judging_54.html (http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/acatalog/Main_Menu_Showing___Judging_54.html)                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Colin on February 25, 2004, 03:14:16 PM
This site has a list of some ringcraft clubs...... there's one in Warrington.

http://www.clubcorner.co.uk/ (http://www.clubcorner.co.uk/)

Another site with listings is...

www.dogclub.co.uk                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Gilly on February 25, 2004, 03:16:42 PM
I think Hayley my oldest daughter (8) is quite keen on this idea too, for when cocker number 2 arrives  :wink: She has been to a few shows and ringfcraft a couple of times (just watching), although Butty is too interested in playing with her than anything else  :lol:
She's cocker mad  :shock:  Her bedtime reading consists of Frank Kane's book  :shock:  :lol:
I personally think it's a really good thing for kids to get involved in  :wink:                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on February 25, 2004, 05:04:20 PM
Thanks everyone,

Billy is not the most responsive of dogs,but then maybe ringcraft might help? I will try and find a class near me.

Edited to say two minutes on the net and one phone call later and I am going to watch a ringcraft class next monday. It is actually across the road from where I live and where I walk Billy everyday :roll:

Michelle                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: tracey on February 25, 2004, 06:24:55 PM
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Since my family and I attended the Lancashire cocker show on Saturday, my daughter has turned into a showing monster :twisted:  

She now plays showing in the hall with Billy as the Model (he is quite keen as she carries a bag of treats with her)  


Michelle


This is how Chelsea started, I think Colin is right about attending a ringcraft class. We were lucky that at our class there is a lady who competes in adult handling who was really helful. She explained the basics of handling to Chelsea and from then on it was a case of practicing. People at ringcraft are usually very helful and like to see the kids having a go.

Jane is right about Jackie Hurley writing a book. She has also made a video you will be able to order  both from U.K Handlers Association 01980 862 600.

If after attending ringcraft your daughter is still interested I would recommend attending a few companion shows. You can find details of these shows in the dog press. Dog World or Our Dogs can be ordered from your newsagent. These shows are great fun and are sometimes held in conjuction with fetes and carnivals. They are a lovely way to spend a summer day with a picnic. It doesn't matter if your dog is not really a show dog as the handling classes are judged on the handling skills. If she is still keen when cocker number 2 comes along then you can enter open shows.

If I can help at all you are welcome to PM me.
Tracey                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Gilly on February 25, 2004, 07:08:34 PM
I keep checking the net for Companion Dog Shows and I can't find any in Scotland in the next decade  :wink:  :shock:  :roll: (Slight exageration)                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: tracey on February 25, 2004, 09:09:09 PM
I'm not sure about the net Gilly :?  but companion shows are usually advertised in the dog press 3-4 weeks before they are due to take place.Tracey :D                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: KellyP on February 25, 2004, 09:54:00 PM
also remember to check your local 'freebie paper' (or just local paper if you don't get a freebie paper) as events like companion dog show tend to take place at fundraisers / carnivals etc. The vet surgery aswell as sometimes the advertise in there on the noticeboard.

Where abouts are you looking on the 'net Gilly? I have several links that I could post, for both Open and companion shows                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Gilly on February 26, 2004, 12:50:00 AM
I'll need to check the dog magz  :wink:  Post your links Kelly and I'll check them against mine thanks, I loost quite a lot of links when I got a virus  :evil:                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: *-Nikki-* on February 26, 2004, 12:56:14 PM
hey!

TOPAZ BILLY did you watch the junior handling class @ Lancashire?
I was in it!  :lol: heehee! my sister came 2nd she loves it...she will be doing Young Kennel Club (Junior Show handling) at Crufts on the gundog day in the YKC ring!
She did really well last year...because to qualify for the show handling you have to get 1st at a general champ show! Some class however can be huge! At LKA December, just gone... there was 26  people in (6-11 year olds) and 41 people in (12-16 years old.) My sister got an impressive 7th!
I'm sure if your daughter is interested in junior handling...it would be a good idea to go on the kennel club website and think of joining. It is only 10 pounds, and you receive 34.00 worth of free Crufts tickets! There will probably be a stand around the YKC ring. Its well worth it! As it you can do Stewarding and Judging straight after you finish the older age group. There is also senior handling aged 17-25 years.                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on February 26, 2004, 03:50:49 PM
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hey!  

TOPAZ BILLY did you watch the junior handling class @ Lancashire?  
I was in it!  :lol: heehee! my sister came 2nd she loves it...she will be doing Young Kennel Club (Junior Show handling) at Crufts on the gundog day in the YKC ring!
She did really well last year...because to qualify for the show handling you have to get 1st at a general champ show! Some class however can be huge! At LKA December, just gone... there was 26  people in (6-11 year olds) and 41 people in (12-16 years old.) My sister got an impressive 7th!  
I'm sure if your daughter is interested in junior handling...it would be a good idea to go on the kennel club website and think of joining. It is only 10 pounds, and you receive 34.00 worth of free Crufts tickets! There will probably be a stand around the YKC ring. Its well worth it! As it you can do Stewarding and Judging straight after you finish the older age group. There is also senior handling aged 17-25 years.


Yep Nikki,

We watched it and that is what has started the whole thing :roll: people where really nice offering dogs for her to have a go, but she is only 7 nearly 8 and having never done anything like that before I think she got a bit of stage fright but once she realised that you could actually win stuff  :shock: thats all she talked about.

We are all going to crufts so I will probably see if she wants to sign up then.  

We will look out for your sister what dog is she showing, maybe she could have a chat with Meg?

Michelle                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: KellyP on February 26, 2004, 04:56:28 PM
links I use for checking show dates - these are a mix of companion and open shows :

http://www.dogshows.co.uk/ (http://www.dogshows.co.uk/)
http://www.prodogs.co.uk/open%20shows/open...s_in_the_uk.htm (http://www.prodogs.co.uk/open%20shows/open_dog_shows_in_the_uk.htm)
http://www.dogsontour.com/showdates.cfm?Month=2&done=1 (http://www.dogsontour.com/showdates.cfm?Month=2&done=1)
http://www.dogpages.org.uk/events1.htm (http://www.dogpages.org.uk/events1.htm)
http://www.highampress.co.uk/dates.htm (http://www.highampress.co.uk/dates.htm)
http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/ (http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/)
http://www.nationaldogshowbirmingham.org.uk/ (http://www.nationaldogshowbirmingham.org.uk/)
http://www.gurney.co.uk/pads/news.htm (http://www.gurney.co.uk/pads/news.htm)

some of them are in the process of being updated, and I'm sure this list isn't exhaustive. If I find any other good ones I'll be sure to post them :)                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: *-Nikki-* on February 26, 2004, 08:40:39 PM
quote]Yep Nikki,

We watched it and that is what has started the whole thing  people where really nice offering dogs for her to have a go, but she is only 7 nearly 8 and having never done anything like that before I think she got a bit of stage fright but once she realised that you could actually win stuff  thats all she talked about.

We are all going to crufts so I will probably see if she wants to sign up then.

We will look out for your sister what dog is she showing, maybe she could have a chat with Meg?

Michelle[/quote]


Haha! We were like that...we won more rosettes handling other people's dogs! (when we had no dogs...that was a bit ago...I was in Y5 at primary school heehee! ) We probably still do! heehee! As we still go to YKC events were you take others dogs! its funny...handling a dog you have never seen before  :D
I first handled in junior handling at Lancashire cocker spaniel open show, with Betty and Ann's NULEA UNCLE PUMBLECHOOK. It helped because 'Oliver' was such a well behaved cocker...not like our naughty little boy!  :lol:

My sister will be showing our gold dog Harvey- Nicibec Harvest Glow.
(YKC Show Handling) Unlike other showing events...my sister receive a list of people who will be joining her within the class. Other cockers in the class are as follows:-

Minvery Linda's Choice - handled by (Miss Foina Lavery)
Lynshow Kraigwithak - handled by (Stacy Mason)
and our Becky with Harvey.

Plus two other handlers in the (YKC) showing cockers in the older age group 12-16 years
Plus there are 5 other handlers with different gundog breeds!
Once again the cocker is the most popular breed within the gundog group being show in (show handling).  :roll:

Michelle...I'm sure if your daughter joins she will thoroughly enjoy it!
Meg will have to look out for Becky and her gang of juniors (usually with Chole.G, Hannah.P, and sometimes Tracey's daughter Chelsea.)

Its on at 2.10 pm in the YKC ring (which is next to the Kennel club stand) Hall 3.                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Magic Star on February 27, 2004, 01:49:39 PM
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Edited to say two minutes on the net and one phone call later and I am going to watch a ringcraft class next monday. It is actually across the road from where I live and where I walk Billy everyday :roll:  

Michelle


 :D Sounds Great Michelle, Elinor also 8 is keen to have a go too 8)  Could you pass the details on to me please?  I think the next nearest one to us is Formby :roll:                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: Magic Star on February 27, 2004, 01:54:42 PM
Michelle, try here too, they do allsorts there, and there is a list of all local dog shows both professional and fun ones!!  I used to take my German Shepherd here many years ago :D  

http://www.westlancsk9.co.uk/aboutUs.asp (http://www.westlancsk9.co.uk/aboutUs.asp)                    
Title: Junior Handling
Post by: TOPAZ BILLY on February 27, 2004, 03:04:30 PM
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Edited to say two minutes on the net and one phone call later and I am going to watch a ringcraft class next monday. It is actually across the road from where I live and where I walk Billy everyday :roll:  

Michelle


 :D Sounds Great Michelle, Elinor also 8 is keen to have a go too 8)  Could you pass the details on to me please?  I think the next nearest one to us is Formby :roll:


No problem Emma,

Here you go, I spoke to the lady Yvonne and she didn't think it would be a problem taking Megan or Billy though she did say that as Bill has been clipped etc she said a few people may come and tell me that I won't be able to show him?? ( I know this its just for fun) The only problem I have is that Meg also goes to Brownies on a Monday evening so she won't be able to attend until the holidays?, but there is nothing to stop me taking him :P

Michelle

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Gathurst Road, Orrell, Wigan.
Every Monday Evening
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Title: Junior Handling
Post by: daftcockers on March 02, 2004, 11:14:35 AM
Michelle, hate to say this, but dont forget you are slightly too old for junior handling :P  :D  :D ,only joking, see you on friday.