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Title: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: ali2010 on October 04, 2011, 12:59:50 PM
Albert is currently insured with E & L - we rehomed him almost a year ago and to be honest I didn't know any better so went with E & L who I have since been told are very difficult to claim from

I am therefore getting new quotes for insurance but am getting so confused - my limit is £25 per month and I have had a few quotes for around this price who will insurance up to £4000 per condition - is this enough?

Can anyone recommend a decent insurance company which doesn't cost stupid money? 

Also am a bit worried as I notice that some insurances ask if Albert has ever been aggressive towards any dog or any person - we have had a few "instances" where he has growled and gone to bite but he has never actually injured.  Don't want to lie but this we may not get insurance if not careful!
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: *Jay* on October 04, 2011, 01:10:25 PM
I took out a new policy with Axa a few months ago for Disney - £7000 cover for about £18 a month (he is 7 years old).

I've always just answered no to the question about aggression  ;)
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: minimoo on November 09, 2011, 12:02:23 PM
Ive also moved two of mine to Axa , they seem to be doing the best deal at the moment , ive got the £7000 cover and it was quite reasonable  :D
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: c19unn on November 09, 2011, 12:24:23 PM
I will be sticking with Pet plan at the moment
I also have 7k cover
Although may decided to choose a different company when we get Riley, I think i am best to stick with Pet plan for diesel at the moment
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: supergirl on November 09, 2011, 01:37:58 PM
Sainsbury's seem fairly decent.  Have had one claim which I didn't think they would pay for because I forgot to mention that Lexi had an eye infection the previous year.  She was treated earlier this year for eye trauma (which had become infected) - vet argued that it was a completely different matter.  I do wonder if they paid up because I have 3 other dogs (with no pre-existing conditions) and also insured with them.  Had they not paid out I would have cancelled all the policies and moved the dogs.

I have their top rate which is £7500 (per condition) (underwritten by Axa) and I pay £13.33 per month for Roly, £13.35 for Ellie, £10.73 for Misha, and £11.15 for Lexi.  Why the prices differ so much I don't know, but I know there was a discount for the 2nd dog and you usually pay more for boys!.  It also covers complementary therapies per condition to £1000. Also you get nectar points as well.
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: c19unn on November 09, 2011, 01:39:48 PM
Sainsbury's seem fairly decent.  Have had one claim which I didn't think they would pay for because I forgot to mention that Lexi had an eye infection the previous year.  She was treated earlier this year for eye trauma (which had become infected) - vet argued that it was a completely different matter.  I do wonder if they paid up because I have 3 other dogs (with no pre-existing conditions) and also insured with them.  Had they not paid out I would have cancelled all the policies and moved the dogs.

I have their top rate which is £7500 (per condition) (underwritten by Axa) and I pay £13.33 per month for Roly, £13.35 for Ellie, £10.73 for Misha, and £11.15 for Lexi.  Why the prices differ so much I don't know, but I know there was a discount for the 2nd dog and you usually pay more for boys!.  It also covers complementary therapies per condition to £1000. Also you get nectar points as well.

I may change to Sainsburys then - I pay for diesel what you pay for Roly and Lexi added together !!  :o
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: jasper_boy on November 09, 2011, 07:16:53 PM
I have their top rate which is £7500 (per condition)

A lot of insurance is usually 7k per year rather than per condition. Sainsburys is per condition., but others like Axa are per year. I use to think that it would take quite a major illness to use the whole of the 7k but I have spent close to that with Jacob already. Thankfully he is with axa so I am able to spend 7k per year on him and he is having all of the surgery he needs. Jacob isn't quite 2 years old and if I had insured him with Sainsburys, then I would have aleady used up the 7k for his hips and would have to cover all of his meds (which he's likely to be on long term) for the rest of his life
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: supergirl on November 09, 2011, 07:31:04 PM
I have their top rate which is £7500 (per condition)

A lot of insurance is usually 7k per year rather than per condition. Sainsburys is per condition., but others like Axa are per year. I use to think that it would take quite a major illness to use the whole of the 7k but I have spent close to that with Jacob already. Thankfully he is with axa so I am able to spend 7k per year on him and he is having all of the surgery he needs. Jacob isn't quite 2 years old and if I had insured him with Sainsburys, then I would have aleady used up the 7k for his hips and would have to cover all of his meds (which he's likely to be on long term) for the rest of his life

Think you will find that every insurance will have a cap, and the Sainsbury's cover is per condition in any one insurance year, so the next year if you renew the policy you have that same limit again.  A limit that is per year means that when you have used that to the maximum, should your pet require treatment for another condition in the same insurance year it won't be covered as you will have used your limit.  It is underwritten by AXA so is essentially the same policy that you have taken out with AXA. ;)
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: janandted on November 09, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
I took out Sainsbury's ins....when the paperwork came it said per condition so i rang to clarify the meaning  :-\ i was told quite clearly it was 'per condition' and that the £7,000 did not re commence the following year for the same condition  :embarassed: Once you had spent £7,000 on that condition that was that  :huh: no more  :huh: I cancelled it and went to AXA direct and took their life long which did re commence each year  ;) (it was cheaper too ) :005: Hope that's clear  ph34r
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: stuffster on November 09, 2011, 07:53:54 PM
Definitely give John Lewis a ring!! (previously was called Greenbee insurance). Their policy is great, and cheapest I found. Plus Ive been with them for 4 years now, and the price doesnt hike up each year, and when I had £4000 worth of surgery on Alfie, they just paid up quickly, no questions.
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: jann on November 09, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
Definitely give John Lewis a ring!! (previously was called Greenbee insurance). Their policy is great, and cheapest I found. Plus Ive been with them for 4 years now, and the price doesnt hike up each year, and when I had £4000 worth of surgery on Alfie, they just paid up quickly, no questions.

I'm with Greenbee (John Lewis now) and have had lots of claims for both of them. Flo has hypothyroidism,all her meds and regular testing are paid and she is covered for life .Barnaby has just been  for yet another 5 warts removed, also a suspicious lump in his mouth which fortunately was benign, they have paid directly to my vet with no problems each time,  ;)
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: minimoo on November 10, 2011, 06:58:10 AM
its very confusing these days as in earlier post i was with sainsburys (underwitten by AXA) Im now with AXA and its a better deal, when i was looking most of the insurance companies are underwritten by Axa anyway  :-\ :-\ and the axa do lifelong  :blink:
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: Bluebell on November 10, 2011, 07:08:46 AM
its very confusing these days as in earlier post i was with sainsburys (underwitten by AXA) Im now with AXA and its a better deal, when i was looking most of the insurance companies are underwritten by Axa anyway  :-\ :-\ and the axa do lifelong  :blink:
I have just cancelled my sainsburys policy for my 8 year old Vizsla, as the renewal came though at £55 per month :o The quote I received from Axa yesterday for the same level of cover is £39 :shades: :D
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: jann on November 10, 2011, 09:50:08 AM
Just be careful when changing insurance companies, if you have had any previous claims ,that condition will probably be excluded from cover.

Also, cover may be refused f you have consulted a vet for a condition, even though you have not claimed for it .

I would also advise that if the renewal seems excessive you speak to your insurance company. I once did this and had the premium reduced considerably  ;) 
There is also always the chance that a mistake has been made  :dunno:


Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: c19unn on November 10, 2011, 11:01:59 AM
Just like car insurance renewals - they send you out a riddiculous renewal price - you phone them and miraculously they manage to reduce it  >:D
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: Neon on November 10, 2011, 11:34:04 AM
I took out Sainsbury's ins....when the paperwork came it said per condition so i rang to clarify the meaning  :-\ i was told quite clearly it was 'per condition' and that the £7,000 did not re commence the following year for the same condition  :embarassed: Once you had spent £7,000 on that condition that was that  :huh: no more  :huh: I cancelled it and went to AXA direct and took their life long which did re commence each year  ;) (it was cheaper too ) :005: Hope that's clear  ph34r

That's very interesting and shows how important it is to read the policy schedule before taking out an insurance.  I thought Sainsbury's was capped at £7000 per condition for life, providing the policy is renewed each year and because of this, I have been thinking of changing to them but not now.  Toby is insured with Argos at £19.75 per month.  It's quite a comprehensive insurance and is capped at a total of £7000 per year for life. 
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: jann on November 10, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
I had to phone mine this morning to request a claim form. One of the options given was to press 2 (I think)?   if you've received a renewal increase you are not happy about................... so there you go    ;)

Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: seaangler on November 10, 2011, 12:36:00 PM
Just like car insurance renewals - they send you out a ridiculous renewal price - you phone them and miraculously they manage to reduce it  >:D

I to am worried as are Gemma is class in the top five of rare breeds(as per kennel club has said)...Will make insurence companys think twice...being rare will put the preium up(me thinks)...Talking to mark on sunday it does not make the breed sound to good...For fieldys...


But saying that not meny people know what a fieldy is..As most think they are working cockers...(not)
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: minimoo on November 10, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
I took out Sainsbury's ins....when the paperwork came it said per condition so i rang to clarify the meaning  :-\ i was told quite clearly it was 'per condition' and that the £7,000 did not re commence the following year for the same condition  :embarassed: Once you had spent £7,000 on that condition that was that  :huh: no more  :huh: I cancelled it and went to AXA direct and took their life long which did re commence each year  ;) (it was cheaper too ) :005: Hope that's clear  ph34r
its clear to me as i did exactly the same thing  :D :D , i am lucky as with these three dogs ive never had to claim and Ella is the only one who has got history (others too young) and hers is just red skin patches and stinky ears before i had her so i can switch insurers at the moment  ;)
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: Tillymai on November 11, 2011, 02:37:37 PM
It's worth having a look on Quidco as they often offer cash back on pet insurance if you go through their site to take it out. We got £60 back on our Sainsburys insurance (though seeing comments on Sainsburys above I may have to rethink when it comes to renewal time!).

E x
Title: Re: Getting so confused re insurance policies
Post by: jasper_boy on November 11, 2011, 09:47:11 PM
I took out Sainsbury's ins....when the paperwork came it said per condition so i rang to clarify the meaning  :-\ i was told quite clearly it was 'per condition' and that the £7,000 did not re commence the following year for the same condition  :embarassed: Once you had spent £7,000 on that condition that was that  :huh: no more  :huh: I cancelled it and went to AXA direct and took their life long which did re commence each year  ;) (it was cheaper too ) :005: Hope that's clear  ph34r

Thats right, the 7k doesn't renew itself once spent. So its 7k per condition for the life of the dog. But you do save on excess as you only pay one excess per condition rather than every year. Whereas with Axa it is 7k per year for everything, so once you have spent 7k you have to wait until your renewal date for another 7k!